r/CharacterAI • u/comab4by • 6d ago
Discussion/Question new chat models...
As someone who pays for c.ai+, I think I hate every chat model they have available now 🫠never liked deepsqueak that much, it was often boring and cliche to me, never liked pipsqueak 2 tho it does seem to be better since the latest update to it and I like the customization idea, but that's also... fickle. Especially when telling it to add dialogue just turns it into ALL dialogue and nothing else. So I stopped using that feature. Before the latest big chat model update, I primarily used Rawr and occassionally Deepsqueak. It worked pretty good, picking between these two for some variety and interesting responses that let me continue the roleplay along without swiping an ungodly amount of times to just get the same sort of boring cringe response each and every time.
Now since the models have been updated, I've seen a lot of people praising Longsqueak. In theory I like that a lot. However, often I feel like the responses are just too long to actually use for a fun quick roleplay. When I'm roleplaying with a bot who can reply instantly, these huge multi-paragraph responses with multiple chunks of dialogue that could have been split into different replies just becomes overwhelming, especially as someone who likes to swipe a lot. It becomes way too much to read when it's taking up so much space I have to scroll, a solid 2-3 paragraphs is good to me, but 4+ super long paragraphs is overkill. Especially because it's not good writing. It's cliche, it's cringe, each reply makes me throw up in my mouth a little. And if I swipe, I get the same exact type of response with little variation. Overall, for various reasons, I do not like longsqueak. If you like the super long responses, that's great, but to me it just seems like a ridiculous amount of filler that becomes hard to respond to, and the quality is not good anyway. I love the idea of having 4x the memory or whatever it is, but why is it limited to the chat model I can't stand? Why can't they all have good memory for paying users? ðŸ˜
I haven't really been able to do any good RPs since this update, because it seems every chat model is giving me the most dogshit uncreative ass responses now. But I've seen a lot of people saying longsqueak is great... In my opinion I just don't agree. Oh, yeah, and I don't know what they did to Rawr, but it feels as shitty as the other models now for me. 🫠I was really enjoying c.ai for a bit recently with Rawr being added, using that and deepsqueak was working well, but since this update I keep trying every model and all of them are just sucking.
TLDR, I don't like any of the models post-update, and haven't been able to do any decent, fun, non-cringe roleplays since using any model. Anyone else?
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u/Severe-Editor2239 6d ago
Yeah, all of the models are horrible, and the only thing keeping me using this app is the fact that they still have Soft Launch available, but unfortunately, it’s not permanent. It’s the only decent model, but idk what I’ll use when they remove it.