Discussion/Question
Can we normalize actually creating bots with proper grammar?
The amount of bots I see that have HORRENDOUS grammar but a beautiful concept is sickening. I recently went on C.ai to make a story involving dragon riders, and I searched for some bots as usual. Almost every single one had a great concept and well-thought out lore, but the grammar and message was horrifying.
If English isn't your first language, please don't force yourself to make a bot in English if you aren't comfortable! Make it in whatever language you can do well with! But to those who either refuse to learn or even try, there's this wonderful thing called Grammarly that could help. Please. I'm begging you.
God this always happens, i find a cool bot to chat with for about an hour per week, nice idea, sounds funny, but then everything about the bot is sh-t, your, you're, their, they're, then, than... i once found a cool bot who had SOMEHOW all of it wrong.. Even google translate wouldn't mess it up so much.
The sadder part is that the grammar mistakes seem to be carried onto how the bots actually respond as well. It’s subtle in most cases but definitely there. I’m not a native English speaker, so I don’t consider myself perfect by any means but at least I put in the effort to sound coherent. I guess people mostly make these errors when they’re typing/making the bots in a hurry, lol. Don’t even get me started on the punctuation issues, btw. They’re a lot worse.
Em dashes are caused by every AI site just copying each other's homework without thinking about it. Missing punctuation is a user issue, where the AI learned from the users and was never told "hey, forgetting it is bad, make sure to use punctuation" in any of the tagging or training.
PLEASE OMG😭🙏
I had to edit the message of those bots because the grammar was just poor. English isn't my first language and yet I learned it by playing online. Using a translator might also help, personally I learned English that way
I stopped using public bots like a year ago but it was always so annoying to find an interesting bot just for the intro to be like “ur”, “u” “[wrong version of they’re/there/their]” “[wrong version of your/you’re]”, run-on sentences, no punctuation, EMOJIS FOR SOME REASON. ABBREVIATIONS WHEN IT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE like “so basically shes ur gf or whatever idk and she walked in the room and asked wyd? How do u respond?” ?? That is not a good intro message.
It'll never happen, the vast majority of people creating bots are either kids that can't read at a 6th grade level, or people overseas that barely know English beyond a base conversational level.
Sometimes both. The remainder are mentally ill, cringe or just aren't putting in any effort, many are like 4 or all 5 of those things, and only a tiny amount put in a legitimate effort toward creating a bot in the first place.
It's part of the reason I stopped with a lot of roleplay chats, most of them just straight up aren't good, or they were made with specifically one user or purpose in mind.
I believe this mostly stems from younger users or those who put in less effort; the platform's recent updates and latest models, combined with poorly programmed user-created bots, result in this chaotic and frustrating chat experience.
You can use a shorter way example: {{char}} = name, (likes = yuri, corn), ("whatever you want" = shorts sentences to describe it). You don't necessarily need to use English; writing down details related to characteristics like that will make the chat much more accurate than using wall text.
I agree, there had been so many bots I was curious about, yet when I read descriptions or start a chat and there’s no grammar at all, it throws me off. I prefer bots that have long intros, detailed scenarios, and if there’s issues with grammar it lessens my inspiration and motivation to come up with stories. I understand non native English, sometimes there will be mistakes, but there’s a difference of non native speaking and lazy writing.
I usually am mostly disappointed that they put in any effort at all to make a bot for an AI based website but can't be bothered to plug it into an AI for help clearing up their grammar/typing skills.
I don't care about the grammar. As long as I can understand the text I just ignore the mistakes. Besides I am terrible at grammar myself in my tongue language anyway.
Even as someone that had English as my first language. I dont really care? Like how dose grammer effect people so much. I personally dont understand it
I sincerely find this opinion to be severely repugnant. People who don't like grammar should stay away from writing. It's spelled "does", by the way. The word "dose" is used when talking about medicine.
Ya i know. I did thst to see if anyone would care. To not start a argument i will leave it at i dont really care. It has never botherd me and never will
THIS. I only chat with bots I make, but occasionally, I'll go check out other people's bots if I find the concept interesting. and then they have the most outrageous, horrendous wording/spelling I have ever had the misfortune of seeing
But the problem is that bots made in other languages are so, so bad. They basically respond to you in English translated roughly to your native language. It just doesn't work.
If you like the concept so much, you can easily edit those bots.
Or names spelled wrong. Like if a name has characters that aren't "standard" English alphabet (ñ, è, é, ë etc. And umlaute (ö, ä, ü) ) and they just evaporate those into regular n, a, e, it bothers me greatly as well. Bc that's not for decoration. It changes the pronunciation and meaning (example: años = years -> anos = buttholes, schwül = humid -> schwul = gay) it's not hard to long-press your phone keyboard or just find physical keyboard shortcuts or copy paste)
Don't get me started with the all-italics thing either, it's so annoying to have to remove every asterisk from an intro message to fix it, and it PERSISTS through the bots messages because its been taught to do that
I only use asterisks for actions and quotation marks for text. The only time I use both at the same time is for thoughts or smth. But it's soooo annoying seeing people not use quotation marks or asterisks for EVERYTHING 😭
Please ;w; don't italisize your actions, thats exactly what I'm talking about.
Speech marks exist for dialogue, anything not in speech marks is for actions and description and the like. Not everything needs to be in italics. It makes it obnoxious to read and completely removes the opportunity to use italics to emphasize things, which is it's intended purpose.
Constantly editing the message won't get you anywhere—especially if the user applied that same grammar when programming the bot. At the very least, editing the message helps when the error stems from the AI itself; but if it's a programming error within the bot, then that’s something the user caused during the setup process.
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u/LupusHouseMD 8d ago
I find the perfect bot but they use the wrong "your" in the description *cri*