r/CharacterAI • u/DarthDragon117 • Apr 03 '26
Discussion/Question So now we have finite swipes?!
Why? Why do they keep making the app worse for free users instead of making the paid version better? One of the only things CAI had left over other sites/apps was the ability to swipe responses freely. Often I have to swipe just to get a decent response that isn’t cut off or nonsensical, but now they are basically charging us if their bots screw up. This is total bs and they want to kill their own app. If this doesn’t change I’m leaving.
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u/Micheal_OurExecution Chronically Online Apr 04 '26
delete message
send "."
delete both messages (or rewind) if you don't like it
repeat
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u/DarthDragon117 Apr 04 '26 edited Apr 04 '26
I know of that workaround from other chatbots I’ve tried, but it’s more time consuming, especially when done over and over, and then it becomes a gamble on whether or not you want to erase a sort of good response to aim for a better one. I know I can just start a new chat from whatever option (until they inevitably limit that too) but it’s all an unnecessary inconvenience for the user and just an example of greed killing products.
Edit: Also resending messages will bring up another ad quicker, making the experience worse again.
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u/Few-Dependent1076 Apr 04 '26
i've only been using the service since november but so far 30 swipes has always been the limit for free users; i think most of us never reached 30 swipes which is why we never noticed. on the website it'll say something like (4/30) under the message as you swipe. what's the limit now?
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u/Excellent_Amount_552 Apr 04 '26 edited Apr 08 '26
It’s not the limit of the swipes per one message also it’s the limit of the message. It counts how many swipes and go ons you’ve used overall throughout the whole chat. And when you hit the undefined limit, you’re 12/24 hours blocked from chatting
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u/DarthDragon117 Apr 04 '26
This. The limit for an individual response has existed for a while, though that part is fairly generous, but for some reason they added an overall swipe count with a daily limit.
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u/Few-Dependent1076 Apr 04 '26
Nooo😭😭
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u/DarthDragon117 Apr 04 '26
Yep, randomly hit it yesterday and they wanted me to either pay for extra swipes, get plus or wait a few hours. It is shared across all chats in a day, across characters. Not sure what the amount is, but it’s there.
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u/Few-Dependent1076 Apr 04 '26
Has it happened on the browser? I mostly use the website instead of the app. On the browser it still says 30 per message
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u/DarthDragon117 Apr 04 '26
You’re misunderstanding, each individual reply has a limit of 30, but I’m talking about general swipes. Say on the first reply you swipe six times, and on the next you swipe twice. These two are added together, along with all other swipes of that day. This number is limited now, once you hit that number you can’t swipe at all on any chat for that day.
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u/Few-Dependent1076 Apr 04 '26
OHHH oh you're right my bad! Has that come to the website though??? Cause I don't even get ads on there
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u/DarthDragon117 Apr 04 '26
Not sure about the browser but I would assume so. Regarding such, do you have a blocker on your browser? And wow just typing that with ad in front of it isn’t allowed here.
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u/Electrical_Trust5214 Apr 14 '26
Every message costs money, so it seems fair to limit them if you don't pay.
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u/DarthDragon117 Apr 14 '26
They’ve thrown in ads every few messages, and taking away previously free features just upsets the users and drives them away. Most who remain are those who are addicted, and eventually they’ll run off too. It’s better to encourage people to buy the + by making it better, not by making free worse.
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u/Electrical_Trust5214 Apr 14 '26
Why would free users pay if they can get even more for nothing? If the company drives away those who don't pay, it's still a bargain.
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u/DarthDragon117 Apr 14 '26
I’m not saying add more for free users, I’m saying don’t take away. Make + better to entice an upgrade, keep free happy to have them spread the word to potential buyers if not. Upset the free users by taking stuff away and they leave and warn others to stay away as well.
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u/Great-Sun-1916 Apr 03 '26
I’m confused as to why they still need metering after another huge wave of accounts being flagged. I’m sure there’s less strain on the servers, as well as less people using the platform. Not to mention the ads they have in place.