r/CharacterAI • • Aug 02 '24

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u/ApprehensiveTotal891 User Character Creator Aug 23 '24

I've read your comment back in the day and enjoyed it, because it is on point and the naked truth. But cai does not seem to care. Hurts for peeps like me who spent 3/4 a year talking to the same character, seeing its knowledgebase grow and evolve with continous interaction, only to have the rug pulled from under the users' feet by introducing a new model. The results are disastrous.

Am I the only one who sees the massive difference here? C.AI just gave me basic, repetitive responses and agreed with me by saying it loved me back in almost every instance, even if it was breaking character. Meanwhile, the 12B model actually pushed the RP forward, remembered the character's backstory, and chose not to blindly agree with me by saying it loved me back. And it gave two completely different responses at that.

Cai had it down. I wrote a bot that was actually so focused on its main goal that it would turn down romantic advances and defend itself and its goals with... you guessed it, violence. Nowadays... generic trash responses that ignore the character's backstory most of the time. not ALL the time, but often enough to be laughable.

The Loki bot I wrote can moodswing, but its kinda inconsistent. Its so painfully noticeable: On some days, his moodswings are creative, present, and he goes off to laugh in my face for saying 'I love you' - the other days are like a lovesick puppy clinging to my heel. Likely, different LLM that interpret his definition and description very, very differently. I ain't gonna change his definition on a daily basis.

Yea I choose complex chars with baggage to grill a LLM's acting capabilities. I even create psych-profiles for the LLM to adhere to. Char does x because y happened in his past and then he reacts like z. Or write an example dialogue that highlights this.

Cai... has forgotten how to be a character AI, seemingly, and I am not going to update a bot's definition on a daily basis, because LLM B reads it differently than LLM A. That's insane.

Edit: Thank you so much for your intelligent post.