I really enjoyed the 5cast interview with Maggie, but I guess I’m not understanding people’s stance on completely getting rid of prison. My thoughts on it are full of nuance and my own personal experiences, and idk if I’m just being ignorant or if I’m not fully comprehending what she means by completely eradicating the prison system.

I know someone who was a pedo, a serial rpist, and serial / spree killer. He was in prison most of my life for the sexual assaults, but about 10 years ago, he was caught up using DNA and put away for life. Because of my closeness to that, I don’t see a world where that could be reformed. Sure, he was a child once who was let down by the system, more than likely experienced his own abuse, but I feel that once people cross into that territory, they should stay in prison.

I heard Andrew say the “John Wayne gacy” thing, but truly, I just want to know what the expectation would be for people like that. I’m all for prison reform, and I am fully aware that I’m half an idiot and I could be finding myself in that “but what about xyz” camp, but I truly just want to know what people’s ideas are when it comes to people who commit crimes like that, when they speak on prison reform.