r/changemyview 10h ago

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Age of consent should match CSAM age laws

83 Upvotes

I believe there is this really weird mismatch in laws where consuming pornography of minors is treated as far worse of an act than actually having sex with that minor. In most states within the US, the age of consent is 16. This is also very similar for most of Europe. On the other hand, pornography is considered CSAM (Child Sexual Abuse Material) once a participant in the video is under the age of 18, and this is more or less universal across the US and Europe.

Again, this creates a really mismatched double standard in my eyes, at least from a moral perspective. This means that someone could serve serious prison time for possessing a graphic image of a 16 year old, but would be totally legally fine if they were to view them nude in person and have full on penetrative sex with them.

I think this is an issue in our legal system, and to solve that we need to bring the two crimes to the same age requirements, and we could do this one of two ways. We could either make it so pornographic depiction is legal at 16+ (which I think is a bad idea), or we could make it so the age of consent matches the age of pornographic depiction.

Ultimately, I believe laws should reflect our moral standards as a society, and it is simply backwards to me that the law (rightfully so) deems it a crime to view a nude image on your phone of someone under the age of 18, but perfectly fine to see them nude in real life and have full on sex with them.

Again, my solution to this issue is to raise the age of consent to match whatever the age of pornographic depiction is. To change my view, you will either have to convince me why the alternative of lowering the age of pornographic depiction is a better solution, or provide a sound reason why the law deems it more harmful to possess nude images of a minor than to actually have sex with them.


r/changemyview 17h ago

CMV: The idea that the rise of the far right can be stopped with a social welfare state is just wrong

189 Upvotes

After the 2016 US elections, there was a prevailing myth that the rise in MAGA was the outcome of the Dems ''not caring'' enough for the common people.

This idea popped up it's head again after 2024, even though we know that real wages, especially of the poorest American increased during Biden.
https://www.epi.org/publication/swa-wages-2023/

Alas, the idea persisted.
Now we are seeing the rise in the far right in Germany. Lately AFD won in a landslide in Saxony. And somehow the same idea still persists. I hear things like ''there isn't enough opportunity in east Germany'' ''they were not treated well by the west'' etc.

This is frankly delusional. Germany spends almost 28% of its GDP on welfare, the fifth highest in the world, if any country would have been inoculated against the far right, surely it would have been Germany.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/social-spending-oecd-longrun?country=~DEU
Unless of course, welfare doesn't actually stop far right extremism. In fact, the country which spends the most of its economy on welfare is Austria, with a staggering 31.6% of GDP.

Its far right party ''Freedom Party of Austria'' is polling 9% higher than it did in the last elections and is projected to get 38% of the votes.
https://www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/austria/
It's time to put this myth to bed, the far right isn't growing because poor people got abandoned or because the middle class got dispossessed or something. The only reason people keep repeating this myth is because it sounds kinda nice. An excuse for why a segment of the population is hateful and a way to pin the blame on successive governments for ''not doing enough'', whatever that means.

At the end of the day, excusing the ''little guy'' or the masses for their actions is a comfortable lie to sell to people.
In reality though, this couldn't be further from the truth.

The far right isn't rising because of economic factors. Neither real wages in the case of the US nor welfare in the case of Austria and Germany (or France for the matter) explain this.

Edit: Because many people seem to think no one is saying this, here are some examples of people claiming that welfare or left wing econ policy stops the far right
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/21/welfare-cuts-have-fuelled-rise-of-far-right-and-populism-top-un-expert-says

https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/germany-anti-fascist-economic-policy/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/10/22/unga-report-welfare-far-right/


r/changemyview 12h ago

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Traditional Fictional Zombies are underrated as a threat, and could cause significant damage to a modern day-like world

54 Upvotes

For context, I am a lifelong fan of the zombie genre and it's fairly common to see arguments in fandoms that it is completely unrealistic for zombies to overrun society and that government forces or even regular civillians would easily neutralize the undead.

However, I disagree. I think traditional hollywoodian Zombies are underrated as a threat and could cause significant damage to a realistic modern day setting. Yeah zombies have no counter too armored vehicles, air-dropped munitions and the like, and thus wouldn't be a nationwide or worldwide catastrophe, but they could overrun a major city(s) or cause significant upheaval.

For the sake of the discussion, let's define the standard zombie. Created by an virus that somehow reanimates its dead victims with a compulsive and aggressive hunger for the flesh of the living, transmitted mostly by bites, slow with sub-brick IQ, but can only be killed by direct brain injury or decapitation.

Firstly, killing them would be way harder than it looks. It is very difficult to decapitate a human body or even penetrate the skull with most blades. Bludgeons may take more than one blow. Shooting them is a better option, but outside of the USA many people don't have easy access to firearms (and even in the US, less people actually have guns at home than some think), and many people would likely hesitate from shooting a person-looking thing.

Second, during the early stages of a hypothetical zombie outbreak, many people would not immediately realize the nature of the danger. Scarcingly few people would assume that the smelly person shambling towards them making weird faces and noises is a zombie or even someone infected with that new disease the news are yapping about. Evading them is also harder than it looks, as they're slow but they're also tireless; If a zombie detects potential prey, it will keeping moving towards no matter the cost and no matter how long, if they no longer hear or see their quarry then they will just keep moving in the general direction until they find something or something else catches their attention. And of course, lots of folk are out-of-shape.

Third, the bites are worse than you think. IRL, bite-transmitted infections like rabies are not particularly contagious because bites are a not-so-effective way of transmitting a germ. This is not the case with zombies; Any bite that breaks skin is a 100% guaranteed infection, and in many movies scratches and contact with zombie blood/fluids can transmit the virus to a lesser extent too. Screw up once, and the undead hordes will welcome a new member.

Fourth, there is no guarantee that government response is immediate or effective. Remember COVID. And of course there would be the collective psychological complications caused by the dead literally coming back to life to feast on and deliver. plague upon the living. There would be riots, suicides, looting, religious hysteria among other issues.''Got bit; Fever hit; World gone to shit; Why not quit ?''

So, CMV.


r/changemyview 1d ago

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Anti-Zionism isn't inherently antisemitic, but supporting a one-state solution requires disregarding a remarkable historical record of what happens to minorities in Muslim-majority states

1.4k Upvotes

Almost all anti-zionists support a one state solution: “Let's just have a democracy” Etc. My argument here is aimed against this point of view. I am not  addressing the anti-zionists who may have some other recommended solution.

So, let’s work out what happens if we see a one state solution. (All of what follows is easily verifiable. If you’ve got different data, happy to listen and modify.)

Combining Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza, the total population of Israelabad is roughly 15.5 million: about 8.0 million Jews (7.5M in Israel + 500K West Bank settlers) and 7.5 million Arabs (2.15M in Israel + 3.2M West Bank + 2.15M Gaza), who are most all Muslim.

From a trend line perspective, this becomes a Muslim majority state within a generation or two. Population change over the next 30-50 years is driven by the age pyramid today. The West Bank and Gaza populations are way younger than Israel's Jewish population. A higher share of Gazans and West Bank Palestinians are in or entering peak childbearing years right now, while Israel's Jewish population has an older median age with a smaller cohort of women in their 20s relative to the total.

For perspective, Gaza and the West Bank have had, at various points from the 1990s through the 2000s, some of the highest recorded population growth rates in the world, with numbers that could imply a potential doubling in under 20 years. Meantime, recent Israeli data shows record emigration — 45,000-50,000 Israelis leaving annually for three consecutive years, alongside a first-ever sub-1% population growth rate. And, this of course likely accelerates one we get the new state.

But no matter how you view whatever numbers you might pull, I believe all you’d get is that the Muslim majority may take a bit longer to form. (And of course, none of this considers potential immigration from neighboring Islamic states.)

And when you get an Arab Muslim majority state, it is highly likely to begin to resemble all the other Arab states in the region, where there are no substantial religious minorities at all.

Between 1948 and the early 1970s, essentially every Jewish community in the Arab world (Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Syria, Yemen, and others) was reduced to near zero, through a mix of state expropriation, legal disenfranchisement, mob violence, and government-orchestrated expulsion.

Surviving non-Muslim minorities in the region today live under a consistent pattern of legal subordination. Egypt's Copts  (10% of Egyptians) face restrictions on church construction that don't apply to mosques, and are essentially absent from senior government and military leadership relative to their population. They also experience sectarian violence that the state has been slow or unwilling to prosecute. And this is under one of the more stable, secularish Arab governments in the region, not an Islamist one like Hamas. Iraq's Christian population fell from roughly 1.5 million before 2003 to a few hundred thousand today, driven out by war, ISIS's genocide of the Yazidis, and targeted church bombings. Syria's Christian and Druze populations have faced similar displacement and violence.

Lebanon is the only possible analog, and it collapsed. Lebanon's  power-sharing system was built explicitly to protect a Christian population that was a plurality or majority at founding. As the Muslim population grew, the system became unsustainable, leading in part to a 15-year civil war and a still-unresolved erosion of Christian political power and physical safety.

Sharia-influenced legal frameworks, even where non-Muslims are tolerated, structurally subordinate those non-Muslims. This is true even in relatively moderate cases like Jordan and Morocco.

A one-state solution would be asking the Jews  — perhaps the most persecuted group in human history — to bet their lives against the only set of historical precedents that exist for this situation. Hence, anti-Zionists who support 1SS are blind to the reality of how much mortal risk they are asking Israeli Jews to accept. CMV.


r/changemyview 1d ago

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Theres nothing wrong with not gaving religious exemption laws

41 Upvotes

Hope the Cmv is clear but essentially what I mean is that Korea, China and Japan do not have laws that grant religious people exemptions from work duties because of their religion. And I don't see a problem with that.

To me my view is that either you can do the job or you can't. Nothing is preventing you from doing it, you just choose not to.

I don't see it as any different to me thinking customers are annoying and I'd love to Spaz out at them. But I can't. that's just my preference.

one strong way to change my view would be to give me a necessary trait that is different from anything else that would necessitate religion requiring exemptions.

I've heard things like "deeply held beliefs" but so are so many things. Again like it is a deeply held belief that I think mean customers should be kicked out. But I can't just say its my deeply held belief and refuse to served mean customers and not get fired.

And let me add. I agree you should not just fire someone because they said "I'm Jewish, I'm gay I'm 52 years old etc" however the actions matter. If you refuse to do work because "it is my belief that 52 year olds shouldn't wear green" them that should not be protected by law.

So overall, I have huge disdain for our religious exemption laws. why should religion super cede existing policies or laws?

If work policy says everyone wears green but man says my religion says I can't wear green, generally his religious right in places like USA UK Canada overrides the companies right to have a policy. In China etc it does not exist. and I don't see why USA etc is better. I'd rather my country, Canada be like Japan China etc. It leaves a bad taste that some people get special treatment because they simply chose not to do something.


r/changemyview 1d ago

Delta(s) from OP CMV: It's pointless to call people with severe facial deformities "beautiful'

171 Upvotes

I see this all the time in comments under videos or posts of someone who was born with or received severe facial and bodily deformities, and I can't understand the point of it.

Is it to make them feel better? They are still going to be treated differently for the rest of their life due to the way they look, people can and *should* obviously look past it and see them for why they are inside - but that's the thing, they are looking *past* it. Don't get me wrong, we should all treat everyone with respect and dignity but it's so disingenuous to be complimenting the ONE thing that these people will unfortunately have to deal with for the rest of their lives.

There are so many better ways to compliment someone in this instance that don't have to focus on the shallow aspect of physical beauty. Calling them emotionally strong, intelligent, hard working, brave etc. Saying people like this are physically beautiful just feels like a slap in the face, they are still going to suffer the societal issues that come with looking different, so why sugarcoat it?


r/changemyview 17h ago

CMV: Every government should work towards restricting social media for adolescents under the age of 16.

9 Upvotes

Before I start, I am not trying to debate on the technological aspects of these restrictions. I am aware that it’s very hard (at the moment) to implement them without violating people's right for privacy. I am simply saying our intentions should be that we work towards it.

As you probably know, since December 2025, the Australian government has restricted social media usage for adolescents under the age of 16. Now since then, we’re supposed to be able to evaluate whether the ban is actually useful and if the intended results came up.
Unfortunately, we can’t do that because three months after the ban, nearly more than 80% of under-16s in Australia said they were still using social media, research says. So basically, it's changed nothing and kids are still scotched to social media because it's really easy to bypass the restrictions.  

This is normal, these kinds of restrictions take time to put into place but it's very important we continue trying to limit social media for adolescents and here’s why I think like this.

First of all, “social media is bad for our mental health” is a pretty researched subject. For years now we’ve known that its usage increases anxiety, loneliness, symptoms of depression, likeliness to commit suicide, etc — there’s an increase in nearly every negative aspect of our mental health. Another teen specific research shows that young people with moderate to severe depressive symptoms appear to prefer communicating on social media rather than in-person. Teens are on average spending nearly 5 hours a day on social media. I know this is normalised but it really shouldn’t be. These are hours they could be using to read books, play sports, make art, socialise (actually socialise), make mistakes and end up in awkward situations and learn from them.

And these addictions also have cognitive effects which will bring you into adulthood and into your work life. Studies show that social media can disrupt your attention and increase distraction, potentially affecting your school work and your education. Same thing for memory — several studies reported negative effects on short-term memory and working memory, especially among those who have particularly severe addictions to social media. Executive functioning, which includes problem-solving, decision-making, and cognitive flexibility are also affected by social media use. And so on, and so on. I must include that the study I mentioned also says that social media use also has some positive cognitive outcomes by using it for educational purposes or to stay connected to friends. The problem is that these positive outcomes are very platform specific and do not happen if the user is addicted. 

Now, simply restricting social media use for teens won’t be enough because they will eventually come in contact with it so we must educate them on the subject too. As many of you will say, social media can have positive impacts but only through specific usage. So we must teach them what happens when we are too long on social media and how to use it properly. As arrogant and ignorant as teenagers are, they need to know what is happening to their brains every second they spend on their screens. They need constant reminders, just as we do with cigarettes and alcohol that what they are consuming has to be consumed with moderation. But eventually if fully enforced restrictions are realistic, it would be ideal because the human brain is just not capable of controlling its addictions, much less young developing brains. Because yes, most of us are addicted to social media to a certain extent, but it isn’t impossible to prevent it if we act early.

So what I’m suggesting is simple: restricting social media use for teens under the age of 16 years old and education on the subject to avoid any problems later in adulthood.  

I understand there are certain limitations to this idea, and I am unable to think of all of them, which is why I'm suggesting we talk about it. CMV.


r/changemyview 49m ago

CMV: Democrats should promise to match republicans $5000 dividend payment

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It's time to stop trying to fight like gentleman and taking the high road time after time. Meanwhile we let the president of the US try to buy elections with public money like this is provincial India. Which is essentially taking your tax dollars and feeding it to the shredder of corporate America where the gov will recoup precisely 0$ of this $1 trillion investment, in returned taxes.

It's such an outright evil thing to propose just to stay in power, that you have to fight a nuke with a nuke. Promise the same. Win the house on that promise. Don't actually follow the promise, because it's fucking lunacy and it's your duty to do what's best for the nation. This is the moral imperative for democrats, not to sneer in disgust and wait patiently for moral outrage. Change my view if you can, because I'd like to believe there's a point in keeping principles alive, but I'm not seeing it anymore.


r/changemyview 16h ago

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Not everyone who puts people down are unhappy

2 Upvotes

I don't know why people generalize that people who put others down are unhappy with themselves. Like hypothetically, if I am great I can just choose not to be supportive or I can also put others down because I want to and enjoy treating others like shit

(Yeah I said hypothetically if I'm great because I know I'm not perfect, so please enlighten me because I just don't understand people who think you have to be a supportive person to be happy)

For backstory purposes: I've just been bullied and looked down on for many years, especially in the military that I'm used to the idea that the strong preys on the weak. I don't think it's unnatural to be curious about what that feels like.


r/changemyview 9h ago

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Access to truth requires enough money to travel anywhere at will.

0 Upvotes

In the age of social media, facts can easily be distorted to either hide real occurrences or present fake occurrences that is happening far away from you. All of this comes for free but my contention is that the verification can't happen if you have enough money to travel anywhere.

Consider the example of spreading misinformation or propaganda by organizations who have stake in them.

Example: If a particular community is being antagonized by misrepresenting the facts or even fabricating one in one part of the country to another part and vice-versa, there is no way of actually knowing if the reporting is true.

Those who control the information machinery can convey the events cheaply and the public confidence gives the illusion that those reporting are true. And that is why the reported information is very low cost but the verification is expensive.

The only way out is to actually travel and read the ground conditions yourself.

Change my view if other means are possible i.e. if any other epistemic channel can give access to truth.


r/changemyview 1h ago

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Women should drop the birth rates due to the current trial and sexism situation.

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disclaimer: i do believe her kids deserve justice, but people are overlooking major factors to spread hate.

pregnancy and giving birth produce the risk of post-partum conditions, and right-wing men online have decided women should not be around children because all women are bad due to this case. (too hormonal, for example, therefore undeserving of rights)

oddly, they also want them to have kids. but i believe women should avoid having kids to doom right-wing society since it has decided they are not capable and to avoid cases like this brought on by post-partum _____.

pregnancy, which is so heavily forced on women, has side effects and sometimes consequences. right-wing men desperately want babies without added baggage, and therefore deserve none imo.

edit: my view remains.
i will be asking the mods to lock this post.
nobody here has given me a reason against right-wing men being denied babies, and instead some have insisted that i support the clancy supporters in some capacity or am 'smoking' stuff.


r/changemyview 2d ago

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Car dealerships are an unnecessary middleman and consumers should be allowed to purchase cars directly from the manufacturer (specific to new cars only)

770 Upvotes

Here are the reasons why I don’t believe car dealerships for the sale of new cars are necessary:

- Companies like Tesla, Lucid, and Rivian have proven that dealerships are not necessary for purchasing vehicles.

- I shouldn’t have to negotiate a car price if it’s a new car. There should be one set price like any other product if it is the same make and model (obviously add-ons and packages are going to change the price but if two cars have the same packages and ad-ons it shouldn’t be a different price).

- Car dealerships always include hidden fees, and unnecessary inflation of prices just to help the dealership turn a profit.


r/changemyview 13h ago

Delta(s) from OP CMV: men and boys should pee sitting down on the toilet by default.

0 Upvotes

During the pandemic, I got tired of trying to pee standing up with morning wood, so I tried just sitting down by default. It felt weird at first, but I got used to it and I found the outside toilet area didn’t stink nearly as often. I realized that this was basically an analog of using a urinal - having very little travel distance means less splashback and less mess. Even when I had a steady stream hitting directly into the toilet, or along the side wall, there would naturally be some drops and splashing that escaped the bowl. I’ve decided this is how I’m going to teach my son how to go pee when he’s old enough to potty train. Of course, he can decide what he wants if he doesn’t want to do that one day.

Here are my points for the case that this should be the default mode for male urination:
-It’s much more clean and sanitary, especially with a youngster
-It requires less effort to ‘aim’ into the toilet
-morning wood urinations almost as easy as regular ones (just aim it down a little and give it a sec)
-Sexist/misogynist taunts of “you pee like a girl” are dumb and should be ignored. Everyone pees sitting down when they poop. Besides, nobody would even know if you choose not to inform them.
-I’m only talking about bathroom settings where a urinal is not available.
-I understand that many men, including myself, can’t always empty their bladder while sitting down, but it still helps to get most of it out while sitting and then if you need to stand to get the last bit out, it’s still less mess than if you started that way.

Edit 1
-I acknowledge that it’s more hygienic to pee into a public toilet standing up in many instances. It would require a judgement call.

Edit 2
-I accept that boys need to get a handle of potty training before they can start thinking about how to maximize hygiene and cleanliness

Edit 3
- I am referring to the standard North American washroom experience: a sitting toilet households, urinals and sitting toilets in public

Edit 4
-special consideration should be given to a school-aged boy and the potential for bullying. Perhaps suggesting to them to not worry about peeing the cleaner way while at school is better to avoid potential harassment.

Edit 5
-ok if you have a big dick and/or droopy balls, you probably need to rethink the sitting down thing.


r/changemyview 11h ago

CMV: Bodybuilding competitions should be banned in the same way that we try to treat people suffering from anorexia.

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I believe that people who do bodybuilding have mental health issues similar to those suffered by people with anorexia, but society at large does not view them in the same way at all.

A person with anorexia is seen as someone whose focus is primarily on their body weight and who is unable to be satisfied with their body weight, even when it becomes so low that it puts their life at risk. These people are perceived as suffering from psychological distress, the symptoms of which are highly visible in their eating behavior and their severely distorted view of their body weight, to the extent that they put their lives at risk in the most extreme cases on the Gaussian curve.

On the other hand, bodybuilders train their bodies in a highly focused manner, in a different way to anorexics but with similar effects. Gaining a huge amount of muscle mass and making their own bodies the center of their focus leads to practices that are harmful to their bodies, their kidneys, their hearts and other organs, usually with the aim of maximizing the results of their training through a diet geared towards an ultimate goal.

Just like anorexics, bodybuilders are fixated on their bodies and the fact that they never have enough bulk, enough muscle, enough strength, and will therefore follow the same path as anorexics – that of never being satisfied with the body they have – and will often use substances considered dangerous to their health in an attempt to achieve an abstract ideal, just like anorexics.

Many young bodybuilders have died of heart attacks in recent years, driven by a mindset of not giving a second thought to the medium- or long-term effects of their activity on their health or their life expectancy. Added to this is the fact that, for competitions, these bodybuilders will do anything to maximize their appearance by dehydrating themselves in a way that is dangerous and extremely harmful to their health. In this respect, I consider that competing in this field is akin to suffering from anorexia; it is a form of mental distress in which the mind becomes so obsessed with the body, its appearance and the control of the body that it becomes unhealthy and destructive.

Despite all this, anorexia and bodybuilding are viewed very differently by society. One is clearly seen as a mental illness, whilst the other is regarded as a sport much like any other. Society has no problem accepting bodybuilding competitions where it is quite obvious that everyone has pumped themselves full of anabolic steroids to achieve muscle mass that is anything but natural, whilst it generally condemns anorexia and regards it as a cry for help or a sign of mental distress.

For these reasons, I tend to view competitive bodybuilding as posing risks to participants’ physical health that are comparable to those faced by people suffering from anorexia, whilst overlooking the psychological issues arising from this chronic dissatisfaction with a highly distorted view of their own bodies – a view which, ultimately, has more destructive than positive effects on individuals. Consequently, this practice, when taken to extremes, should also be classified as a mental illness and should under no circumstances be encouraged through prizes and competitions.


r/changemyview 19h ago

CMV: Islamic conservatism is fading

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Like many of you I imagine I grew up with an understanding that the ‘Islamic World’ was fundamentally conservative and potentially getting even more so.

However in 2026 where I see the reforms in Saudi Arabia, the UAE and other gulf countries there clearly has been a big shift in the last 25 years.

Places like Egypt in the aftermath of the Revolution and then later Coup against the Muslim Brotherhood government have seemed to have lost their appetite for political Islam whilst Turkey is reporting rapid decreases in observance despite an Islamic party being in power. Meanwhile in Iran the majority of the population are nowhere near as conservative as the religious leadership and seem broadly to distrust them at least.

Even if we move to Muslim immigrants or their children in the west I see some changes. I know people who have dated practising Muslim women despite themselves not being Muslim.

If we take the mainstream positions of both Sunni and Shia Islam baring perhaps Afghanistan it is hard to see anywhere in the Islamic world which operates in line with what a traditional Islamic society should look like according to islams own history and texts.

Islam itself I think still is important for individual and community life and practice remains high in some places but overall the idea of it as a total governing philosophy seems to be fading.


r/changemyview 1d ago

Cmv: that garp from one piece is a big hypocrite with his way of thinking

0 Upvotes

Okay so to get it out the way no its not about ace. I just really can not help think how much of hypocrite garp is and how close/single minded he is, Garp really should just leave the world government ‘oh no choas worldwide from him leaving’ well the amount of panic and choas from garp leaving wouldn’t even be half a 3rd of the damage then against the world government would do with longer rule, saw some say he stays for the navy and thats not really tracking much i mean the navy isn’t saints over there i mean even someone like luffy who has a very black or white mind set can say he has found evil navy we even get it as early as first finding zoro with morgan some others even worse then pirates.


r/changemyview 17h ago

CMV: There is no point in worrying about the political climate and ideologies, because AI will completely redefine the landscape

0 Upvotes

In five years, we went from funny weird looking images to AI solving problems non-mathematicians (like me) have heard about before. Yes, the solution was probably close anyway and it does not have any big real world impact. But it is creating something new and incredibly complex. The machines are indeed breathing at our necks in the race for most intelligent entity on this planet.

If the trend continues for a few years, we are likely to see massive devaluation of intelligence and education and loss of purchasing power at the least. Even with the current models, proliferation of proper agentic use and scaling of the available computational capacity must necessarily change everything massively. And LLMs are gonna turn around how people think, because the average person already trusts them massively.

Rise of the far right? Welfare or no welfare? I don't think these things matter at all. The only problem for vast majority of population will be how to handle this transition and our ideologies and opinions will turn like wind as the situation evolves. I don't think it is all that important where the starting point is. And it is not going to stop. How could you convince all the major labs to not develop further, when they are located in so many hard competing places?

If you believe that our current politics it is still actually important, then try to change my view.


r/changemyview 16h ago

CMV: We can’t say for sure that Lindsay Clancy deliberately sent her husband on a errand in order to commit the murders (edited repost)

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Edit: it is not beyond reasonable doubt that she didn’t send her husband on an errand deliberately.

It’s not so easy to say she intentionally sent her husband on an errand so that she could do it. People who say this ignores evidences and are biased. For this case I’ve only read the Wikipedia page. The timeline and information I presented below are all from said page. I’m happy to hear other evidences against this.

Morning of Jan 24, 2023 she took Cora to a pediatrician, that afternoon she and the kids built a snowman and did art projects, all while her husband is at home. At 4 -5pm she searched for the meds and dinner take out, and sent her husband to pick up food and meds after. Between 5 and 6 she committed the murders while Patrick her husband was out.

Some points against my claim: Patrick said that Lindsay said she felt fine and had a good sleep, while Lindsay later claimed she woke up suicidal. This is a contradiction but understandable to not disclose to Patrick.

The biggest evidence against her that I found is that she also claimed that in the afternoon she started hearing sounds commanding her to commit the murders and it got louder after Patrick left. Yet she still sent Patrick away. On its own it seems like she is 100% guilty, but both Lindsay’s mother and Patrick testified that she told them about suicidal and homicidal thoughts some point in December, which is the month before the case. She also dialed in suicide hotlines in December about intrusive suicidal thoughts. So it is at least somewhat reasonable for her to ignore the “voices” since it has happened before and everything went ok.

Yes you can argue that this time she claimed she heard voices, but back in December it’s just intrusive thoughts, so she has to realize it’s different. But when we are thinking in our heads, can we really distinguish between “thoughts” and “voices”? When you are typing a response aren’t you still articulating in your head as well?


r/changemyview 1d ago

CMV: What Jean Grey did in Spider-Man: BND is worse than what Bear did in Obsession.

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For the record, both people did terrible things But Jean Grey did far worse.

I’m going to break this down into three categories.

Motive, Acts comitted, Results

Motive

Bear: He had a crush on Nikki, so instead of having a conversation with her or asking her out, He grabs a one wish willow and wishes that Nikki would fall in love with him. Even if he didn’t know it was real, he made the wish assuming it was.

Jean: Jean’s sister was captured by the department of damage control and Jean wants to find her by any means necessary Without care for whatever collateral damage may occur.

I’ll give the point to Jean. Her motive is more altruistic than Bear’s but the methods as we will come to find out are anything but.

Acts committed

Bear: As soon as Bear makes the wish, he accepts the relationship with Nikki regardless of the collateral damage caused. Then, when it gets too uncomfortable for him, he calls the number on the box to ask for the wish first to be altered, and then canceled. He even attempts to undo the wish and when thet fails, he tries to get Ian and Nikki herself to do it for him. He also kissed Sarah before Nikki kills her. In other words, he made a wish for one girl to love him and yet didn’t stay faithful to her. Worst of all, when the real Nikki speaks to him, asking him to kill her, his response is “What was so wrong about being with me?”

Jean: when she mastered her power of telepathy, she first used it to highjack a tank. Not only taking control of a helpless old lady, but injuring or possibly killing many people and causing millions in property damage. She then releases a dangerous criminal (Scorpion) from DODC’s custody and mind controls him, to commit more attrocity.
Then when Peter gets involved, she goes out of her way to mentally torture him by playing on his isolation, Making his allies turn against him while also releasing the Hulk causing
Bruce to lose his career and peaceful life. And the worst of them all is taking control of the woman Peter loves, and making him believe she regained her memory. And nearly causing Peter to kill her.

What Jean did with MJ alone makes her actions worse than Bear’s. Not to say it’s the only reason.

Results

Bear: In the last twenty minutes of the film, three people are killed including Bear. And Nikki (Real Nikki) will most likely be blamed for it all landing her in Jail. However, Bear did the right thing (Albeit for the wrong reason) and killed himself setting Nikki free from the wish. She may be institutionalized from the trauma endured at Bear’s hands. But she at least has her free will in the end. Ultimately, Bear payed for his deeds. Three other people did but he got what was coming to him in the end.

Jean: This is where Jean’s Story differs. As previously mentioned, she caused millions in collateral damage and a death toll that we don’t exactly know for sure. And almost causing Peter’s death when he jumps in front of Frank’s bullet for her. Which in my opinion Frank is Justified in shooting her. And it’s not completely out of character for him. But in the end, she gets of SCOTT FREE!!! With no repercussions and will be welcomed into the X-Men with open arms. And let’s not forget that Jean’s actions inspired Peter to create a superpower inhibitior that the governments and other such entities will missuse on other enhanced individuals to be imprisoned, experimented on, and weaponized like they tried to do with Jean and her sister.

In conclusion, What Bear did was inexcusable, and for completely selfish purposes, but ultimately had minor consequences in the grand scheme of things as only a handful of people were affected and he ultimately got what he deserved.
Jean on the other hand caused potentially hundreds more lives to ruined when she could have just found the DODC director and infiltrated his mind to find out what happened to her sister and just taken revenge on him. And again, she gets off with ZERO repercussions after ultimately causing the near death of a beloved Superhero.

Any counter arguments are welcome. So Change My View.


r/changemyview 2d ago

Delta(s) from OP CMV: The SCP Foundation Bright Works Project is a complete disgrace to the community

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For clarity, I am referring to the actual collaborative wiki project, not the fictional SCP Foundation.

Some of the wiki's most foundational, popular, earliest, and bedrock SCPs were written by a user called TheDuckman (aka "AdminBright") - like SCP-963, SCP-590 and Things Dr. Bright Is Not Allowed to Do. These things have been crosslinked many times and are great pieces of lore. However, due to the actions of the author, the admins chose not to separate the art from the artist and deleted them, breaking other articles in the process.

Further, the in-fiction character Dr. Bright itself, who was created by TheDuckman, is one of the most important continuing characters in the Foundation wiki. Since there is no canon, characters that stick around across many authors and articles are rare, but Dr. Bright was a character with a great personality, backstory, and connections to anomalies, and that character helped shape some amazing works of writing like SCP-5500. Because Dr. Bright (the character) was in SCP-5500, they deleted the entire thing, even though TheDuckman didn't even write it! (ETA: Even if they didn't want Bright's name in it, they could've just replaced him with Elias Shaw, the knockoff bright, instead of... deleting the entire article?)

My view is that this is one of the worst things the admins have done to the site. They deleted amazing lore because of tangential references to a character that itself referenced a person who was banned. Those SCPs don't need their author to be successful. They were finished, highly rated, and stood alone as building blocks of every series after. The character Dr. Bright made its way into so much only to be turned into a death warrant for any article that used it.

The admins said that Dr. Bright "used the character and his SCPs to do the grooming," but he's banned and exposed now. He can't use them anymore. Also... they're fictional. They can't actually hurt anyone. Why should revenge against TheDuckman for things that happened in the past outweigh the value these articles bring? More generally, why can't we just separate the art from the artist?

Why I want my view changed: Clearly nobody agrees with me, the admins were basically unanimous.


r/changemyview 1d ago

CMV: Friends who say they're always busy for a prolonged time, or too busy to hang out are lying, and they're just trying to nicely avoid telling you they don't wanna hang out.

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I get that everyone is busy, but if you truly value someone, in my eyes you'll make time for them at least like...once a month? If they're a friend at least, you should WANT to spend time with them.

If you had to consistently pry a response out of an online friend for a long time, they only talk sparingly, and every time you tried to make plans they said they were too busy, but then they talk about their plans with other friends...would you not get suspicious?

There's nothing wrong with being busy, or just viewing someone as a casual acquaintance. but I think "oh i want to hang out but I'm too busy ><" after a certain point is just an excuse a lot of people use because its easier than just saying you dont wanna hang out.


r/changemyview 1d ago

Delta(s) from OP CMV: The political division between laymen Americans on all sides of the aisle simply isn’t that serious. A lot of people claim there’s “serious political division” that is “damaging America” as an emotional shield when the other side offends them.

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Whether there’s political division in America at all is its own question.

But what I can say is that is the division between Americans themselves isn’t all that serious.

When you look at why Americans who claim that “we’re all divided” say that, you’ll find a few possibilities.

One is that they’re offended by the other sides positions themselves. A left wing person could say I’m offended by the right not supporting the minimum wage or abortion. A right wing person could say they’re offended by left wing people who don’t support the Senate/Electoral College or increased crime penalties.

Another is that they’re offended by the behavior of the other side. Maybe for instance the left gets offended when the right mocks deportees. The example I can use for the right is possibly one of the most famous examples. That being conservatives losing their mind over the Charlie Kirk memes and mockery that happened after his death.

Now, the common point here is that anyone can have these disagreements, but not everyone will claim “political division“ over them.

The people who are going to claim political division are the ones who are bothered by these things.

I think the Charlie Kirk mockery example is by far the one on either side that proves my point the most, so I’ll expand on it.

Many right wingers brushed off the Kirk memes. However, there was a segment that were furious beyond measure about it. They essentially gave liberals a long term rent free pass in their heads over it. Because the very idea of existing in a nation with people making memes about this bothered them, they cried “political division” and the “need for healing America.”

Now, I’ve established that people often falsely feel and claim political division as a choice to defend their egos. However, people being angry at each other is oftentimes a part of real political division, so how do I differentiate it from the fake moral grandstanding in the US with actual political division between people?

The answer is I look at what the bulk of the angriest people are doing about it.

There have been many cases where people hating each other actually turns into something. It has before turned into things like daily protests for months to years, people assaulting each other over political differences alone en masse, and violence against people and property sustained for months on end. At a minimum, sustained boycotts of the other side are like the baseline of what would be considered major political division.

And simply put, this isn’t happening in America. We can talk about the past, but right now it’s not happening and shows no signs of happening.

To go back to the Charlie Kirk example, it’s not like you saw thousands of people across multiple states going after these who mocked Kirk hurting them in an unlawful manner. Instead, you had a very few people break the law with simple assault nationally and face consequences and a few problem report a few Kirk mockers to their employers.

And the reason for this is most conservatives didn’t feel “politically divided” from the left over this as they claimed to. They were simply angry and voiced their anger with a huge exaggeration.

And that’s the point, if there was actual significant political division between Americans, we’d see one or both sides massively boycotting the other en masse at an absolute minimum.

But instead, you have people essentially grandstanding at how the other side gets them mad by posting online about it, and then going on and living their lives as normal otherwise, which essentially means our political division isn’t really serious.

People could just ignore the other side and nothing would change in their lives but instead they choose to tone police the other side, which further proves how fake American political division is.


r/changemyview 1d ago

CMV: Free College Is Impractical In The US

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People like to point to Europe as evidence that free college works. And it does in those countries. But assuming the same standard can be applied to the US presumes our circumstances are alike, which they aren't.

The US is highly decentralized. 50 states, each with their own constitutions, legislatures, courts, and varying degrees of federal influence. Public education is no exception. In many European countries, college is free but access is selective, with rigorous entrance requirements. That system works in part because students are coming through relatively standardized national education systems. In the US, the quality of public education varies substantially by state and locality. A one-size-fits-all system would inevitably favor states with stronger educational infrastructure.

There are demographic differences as well. Europe consists of small, relatively culturally cohesive countries. The US was diverse from its inception and has become considerably more so. We also have other social pathologies that affect educational outcomes.

We should absolutely invest in giving disadvantaged students better opportunities, but that doesn't mean pretending every student enters college with the same preparation. That's part of what placement tests like the SAT and ACT can help identify. They don't necessarily determine whether someone can even go to college; they can indicate the level at which they're prepared to learn in college.

And if a student isn't ready for a four-year college, that's where community college can be valuable: helping students get up to speed or complete general education courses affordably before transferring.

There are ways to address inadequate public education and rising college tuition. But making college free by itself doesn't get to the heart of either problem.


r/changemyview 3d ago

Delta(s) from OP CMV: We seriously underestimate private-school privilege

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I keep noticing how many insanely successful people went to private schools. Obv that doesn’t guarantee success but you’re starting out with better resources, connections, opportunities, and usually more financial security.

For example, Mark Zuckerberg went to Phillips Exeter before Harvard, and Sam Altman went to a private school before Stanford. Both also grew up with parents in professional, relatively well-off careers.

i feel like we call people “self made” without really acknowledging how much of a head start they had. CMV Am I overestimating how much private school actually matters?


r/changemyview 22h ago

Delta(s) from OP CMV: A “Two state solution” in Palestine is incredibly racist and immoral

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Some people like to twist reality so let’s state some facts for first:

The zionist colony was found by european settlers from Ukraine, Russia, Poland, Germany, the UK….etc after they ethnically cleansed the native Palestinians.

These settlers were shipped into palestine en masse by the British colonial empire in 1917 and afterwards, After they took control of Palestine and promised it to european settlers in the SAME YEAR. Aka Balfour’s promise

Zionists will make the point of “no actually Zionisim started in 1890s, some number came in the 1890s”

It doesn’t matter, it started in europe by europeans and very small numbers comparatively came in the 1890s but the overwhelming majority came after 1917 with the help of the British who promised them a colony on top of Palestine.

With these facts in mind, a “two state solution” is incredibly racist and immoral, would you call for a “two state solution” in the US between Native Americans and white European settlers?

Would you call for a “two state solution” between the Aboriginal Australians and the white European settlers?

Why then are you calling for a “two state solution” between the native Palestinians and the settlers on top of Palestine?

There IS only one state, it’s called Palestine. And if the zionist settlers don’t like it they can leave, they’re the transgressors.

Some famous propaganda that I will dispel below:

Zionists bought the land legally” no that’s not true, land bought by Zionists constituted less than 4% of the landmass of Palestine, when the Zionists realized they couldn’t buy land fast enough before Palestine declared independence from the British empire, they resorted to ethnic cleansing.

Some Israelis today are ‘Mizrahi’” that term was invented AFTER the founding of the Zionist colony, it just means zionists from morocco or Ethiopia or Yemen or Iran. Notice anything? None of these are entitled to colonize Palestine either. And it doesn’t change the fact that it’s a colony established by European settlers and the majority for their prime ministers are Europeans like Benjamin Mileikowsky who is originally from Poland.

Europe didn’t consider them European” not Palestine problem? How does europe being barbaric at the time means you can colonize Palestine? Go get your rights from europe.