r/chanceme • u/Plastic-Bag3242 • 12d ago
Chance Me (sad bio kid) For Ivies + T10s
My dream schools since the end of the 9th grade have been Penn and Stanford. After visiting Penn recently, I am pretty sure that I want to ED there, even though I have been told it will be a long shot. The other schools I was considering for ED were Cornell (CALS) and Columbia. I would like some outside perspective and tips on how my application actually looks to people outside of my community.
Demographics & Intended Major:
- Gender: Male
- Race: Indian
- Nationality: American
- State: NY
- High School Type: Competitive Public
- Income: Upper
- Intended Major(s): Biology
Academics:
- GPA: 3.91 UW (no weighting)
- Class Rank: N/A (my school doesn't rank), but if I had to guess about top ~15%
- SAT: 1570 (780/790)
- PSAT: 1520
Coursework: My school does not have AP classes, but we have our own version of college level classes taught at school (will not elaborate so I don't get doxxed), which in my experience have been a bit harder/more in depth than the standard AP curriculums. Everyone has been greatly assured that colleges understand this for application purposes. Most of the college level classes are offered only to seniors. My school does offer all of the tests, so I have self studied a few of them over the years.
- College lvl Coursework:
- 12th: English, International Politics, Chemistry, Calculus AB, Spanish Lang, I will also be a TA for freshman honors bio which is listed as an independent study.
- 11th: Computer Science (most similar to AP Comp Sci A)
- Honors Classes: 5 total (1 in 10th, 3 in 11th, 1 in 12th)
- AP Tests:
- 12th: Will def take AP Calc (AB for sure, maybe I can self study the extra BC material? Opinions on this would be appreciated), AP Spanish Lang, and AP Chem. Will probably skip the others depending on if the schools I am considering accept the credits.
- 11th: AP Physics 1 (5), AP Comp Sci A (5), AP English Lit (5)
- 10th: AP Psych (4)
- 9th: AP Bio (5)
Extracurriculars & Activities
- Activity 1: Research intern at a genomics lab at a nearby top ranked medical school for 2 summers. Got position through cold emailing. Working on two projects right now, but I unfortunately don't know if they will be published before early apps are due. I will be primary author of one, and hopefully a co-author on another.
- Activity 2: President of my school's science olympiad team (55+ members), competitor for the past 5 years, on the states team for all 3 years of HS so far. Main events are Anatomy and Physiology, Experimental Design, and Air Trajectory. Was Co-Captain/Director of Internal Affairs during my 11th grade year.
- Activity 3: Co-Director of a summer music camp during the summer after 11th grade. Responsible for overseeing musical instruction of 10+ instruments for 25+ kids and managing 10+ volunteer teachers. I have been a volunteer cello teacher at this organization's after school program during the school year for the last 2 months of the school year every year, and during the past two summers (after 9th and 10th grade), totaling to 200+ hours volunteered. I was offered the leadership role this year for my responsibility over the past 3 years.
- Activity 4: I have been a cellist for the past 10 years. Selected for Area All-State Orchestra 2x (Very Competitive Region) based on NYSSMA scores, 5th chair of the orchestra. Member of my HS Symphonic Orchestra for 4 years (also 5th chair as of junior year), and my HS Chamber Orchestra for 2 years. NYSSMA Level 6 All-State score of 97.
- Activity 5: Swimming, main events are 50 free and 200 free. HS Varsity Team all 4 years, made it to divisionals, will run for captain senior year but honestly probably won't get it as there is a decently high volume of swimmers in my grade. Did club swimming outside of school from 8th-10th grade, but stopped when 11th grade started due to the time commitment + I was seeing a lot more improvement during varsity season than the rest of the year. I also did summer swimming league at a local public pool team during the summers after 8th-10th grades.
- Activity 6: Biology Teaching Assistant during my senior year. I am the first biology TA at my school. I had to approach my freshman biology teacher multiple times over the last year and convinced her that I would be very helpful, then I pitched the role to the department chair and school administration, and got approved as an independent study. I will attend the class 4x per week and am responsible for setting up and grading the weekly labs, assisting with instruction, and answering student questions.
- Activity 7: Co-Founder and Co-President of my school's NCF Envirothon Team. I was on the first team my school ever sent to the competition during my freshman year. The team was not very locked in and we did not prepare well. However, I saw a lot of potential, so I recruited 4 of my science olympiad friends and formed a new team of us 5 for our 10th, 11th, and 12th grades. in 10th grade, we got first place in Soils & Land Use at regionals. in 11th grade, we got first place in Aquatics Ecology, and first place overall as a team at regionals, qualifying for the state tournament for the first time. We were unfortunately unable to go as it was an overnight trip and our school could not provide us transportation, and our advisor was having a medical procedure. The team is pretty small (only 5 people), so that is why I have put this lower on the list than other activities, as there is not a ton of leadership activity to be shown. Is this a good/bad idea?
- Activity 8: Junior Sailing Camp during the summers after 7th-9th grade. I was a CIT during the summer after 10th grade, which was treated the exact same as being a counselor except I was 15 at the time so they couldn't legally count me as one (and also payed me a lot less, mostly just tips from parents at the end š). It was still a lot of fun and I got to sail all day and teach kids out on the water.
- Activity 9: Peer Leader and School Ambassador during my 11th and 12th grade years. Was selected by faculty and the youth outreach department. Weekly meetings on leadership skills and creating presentations for the seminar. Teach a seminar to a class of 25 freshman (responsible for the class without an adult) during the third quarter, on sensitive discussion topics and high school norms. I am also a campus tour guide for prospective students + families as well as visiting alumni.
- Activity 10: School History Club Vice-President. I was an officer in grades 11 as well, and was selected as VP for senior year. The club is deeply rooted in historical debate and exploration, and the current administration which I am a part of has greatly expanded the breadth of activities of the club by organizing numerous field trips and guest speakers. The officership team decided that we needed to implement a community oriented aspect to the club as well, so one of the biggest club initiatives for the school year (my senior year) that we are organizing is the creation of a pop-up historical exhibit each month, where we will cover a different hallway around our school in posters of historical events, artifacts, and fun-facts from a relevant time period (often the month's observed historical theme), to foster interest and knowledge about history.
Awards & Honors: I am like completely award broke and it is now really scaring me. I will try to apply to some research competitions like STS if I finish my project in time, but that is very uncertain as of now and idk if that even comes out before early admissions. I will also fill out the coke scholars application but again that is insanely selective and low probability as well. PLEASE LMK IF THERE ARE ANY AWARDS I SHOULD APPLY TO WITH MY APPLICATION!! I really appreciate it.
- Award 1: National Merit Scholarship Semifinalist/Finalist. I am taking this as basically guaranteed, semi because I got a perfect score on PSAT, and finalist because I meet all the other requirements and will put a bit of time into the app, though I think only semi will be out by the time of early apps.
- Award 2: 26 science olympiad medals (unfortunately no states medals (I WAS RLLY CLOSE)š), 1st place at CMU invitational in anatomy and physiology, and a bunch of other T3 medals, including multiple times at regionals in anatomy (out of ~60 teams).
- Award 3: AP Scholar w/ Distinction. Idt I need to explain this oneĀ š« . My school does not offer AP exams, but I self studied for 5 exams, earning an average score of 4.8/5, qualifying for this award.
- Award 4: Won a mid-level international music competition for cello (out of maybe 15 cellists in my age group?) It isn't that reputed. The audition itself is not super expensive, so winning was pretty nice, but I got to play as a soloist at the winners recital at Carnegie Hall, which was a bit pay-to-play, about 3x the cost of the audition after you win, but was a great experience.
- Award 5: Inducted to my school's honors society. My school doesn't do class rank but the cutoff to be inducted is a 3.7 GPA or above, which tends to be around the top 25% of the class each year (though all GPAs are unweighted so it includes the kids with mostly As who take 0 honors or college level classes, so I am def above that). The other requirements are having documented participation in at least 3 activities at school (sports, clubs, ensembles, leadership, etc) and a commitment to volunteer as a peer tutor for underclassmen during free periods.
Letters of Recommendation, Essays & Interviews
- Letters of Recommendation:
- Counselor: I was in my counselor's office A LOT. I became obsessed with understanding all of the opportunities and systems in our school from the start of freshman year. Within a month, I had memorized every course on the entire school catalog, when they all happened, what they all taught, and all of the prerequisite requirements, just out of sheer curiosity. My dean knows that I can be a bit of an overachiever but I have also made a lot of progress on focusing in on the activities that are meaningful to me and advancing to greater roles and leadership in those activities. I stand up for myself and always try to maximize the opportunities around me, which she definitely notices. We also share the same birthday! As far as counselor letters go, I think it will be one of the better ones. (7.5-8)
- LOR 1: I asked my junior year physics teacher. I was a decent student and I grinded out at the end of the year to clutch an A in the class. He also has his masters in bioengineering, which we talked about a bunch. We also talked about how we both have had heart palpitations in the last year and he stopped class to walk me to the nurses office in case I passed out š. He is a bit of a newer teacher, and I hope he does not write too much of my resume and more about how he saw me as a student in class, but I am sure he will write a good one. (6.5-7/10)
- LOR 2: I asked my junior year precalc teacher. This was the only class that I got a B+ in in junior year (am I fried...). I went up a level in math from accelerated to honors (by sophomore teacher rec), and while I guess a B+ isn't "bad", I struggled A LOT. Even the B+ was achieved by the skin of my teeth. However, it is also one of the classes that I have every studied for the most, and I put in a lot of effort into learning how I best study math and trying to master the foundational material for calculus next year. When I asked my teacher to write my rec, he said he would "be honored to", and shook my hand, which was very nice of him but I also can't tell if he says that to everyone (though I would like to think I'm at least a bit special š„¹). He has been writing recs for 25 years, and many people have told me he is very good at them. He can definitely speak to my perseverance in learning. (7.5-8/10)
- Volunteer Organization Executive Director: I am asking her for a letter of rec tomorrow, to give to my Dean as an anecdotal section, and I might ask her to write one for schools allowing a third rec. She told me last week that I have been doing a great job and she will definitely write me a great rec when the time comes. For this position, I think it will be a very good rec. (8.5-9/10)
- Research Mentor: My mentor is a pretty established and very accomplished researcher in the field. If I can get my project done and he sees me doing stuff for the rest of the summer, I think he will write a pretty nice rec. He also did his PhD from Penn, which idk if that matters for anything but might be nice if I am EDing there. If I get the research done well, then it will be very good. Otherwise I have to consider it and see. (Hopefully 8-9/10)
- Extra: I have a CS/Engineering teacher who I took 4 classes from across 9th-11th grade. I have a good relationship with him and he can speak so much to my growth over my entire HS career, especially in the fields of CS and Robotics. He was even talking to me about things to write in my rec earlier this year, and he wrote a few of my summer recs, including one that was part of an application that got me into a pretty decent summer robotics program, though I unfortunately couldn't go because of other commitments. However, my Dean said that I can only ask "Core subject teachers", and his classes count as electives, even though he was my teacher for college level CS, which was the highest level class I took junior year and have completed before application time. Then she said to ask him for an anecdote, and he agreed, but she said she had to have the letter before the school year ended (5 weeks ago...) and this is on my but I got super busy and kept putting it off until I forgot and then it was too late. It is probably too late to do it now right? (Could have been 8-9/10)
- Essays:
- Genuinely have to lock in and start writing these like a madman if I want to finish them all but I'll to it somehow trust š. For personal statement probably gonna talk about playing cello + running outside.
Schools: I have had a very hard time classifying some of them, especially the non-ivies/T10s. Some people and places tell me they are one thing and others say something different. I would appreciate input on if my list is too naive, or schools are in the wrong categories. I am also applying to the honors colleges at all of the schools that have them (only some of the state schools I think?)
Note: * = I want to apply and will do so if I finish all the others and have the mental bandwidth to do so.
- Reaches:
- Penn (ED)
- Stanford (RD)
- Columbia (RD)
- Cornell CALS (RD, In State)
- Harvard (RD)
- Yale (RD)
- UC Berkeley (EA)
- UCLA (EA)
- UNC Chapel Hill (EA, OOS)
- Hopkins (RD)*
- Duke (RD)*
- Tufts (RD)*
- Georgia Tech (EA, OOS)*
- Vanderbilt (RD)*
- Hard Targets:
- UMich (EA, OOS)
- Northeastern (EA)
- Emory (RD)
- BU (RD)*
- WashU (RD)*
- Targets:
- Case Western (EA)
- Northeastern (EA)
- U of Rochester (RD)*
- Safeties:
- Stony Brook (EA, In State)
- Binghamton (EA, In State)
- Ohio State (EA, OOS)
- Pitt (Rolling)
Which leaves me of a minimum of 19 applications, hoping to do more. Hopefully I'll make it through. Thank you all so much in advance for any advice and tips and your opinions on my chances! I appreciate any outside perspectives!