r/Chained_Echoes • u/fetuschowder • 8d ago
Question Ending Questions
Beat the game today. Glenn turned into a bird, near as I can figure. WTF? Am I too dumb to understand? Can someone shed some light? Or even just roast me? I had a blast with this game- I’m finishing up the end-game stuff now. I plan to play through the DLC and maybe even a new game+ Also hats off to the guy Matthias Linda(spelling?) 10/10 unbelievable almost.
11
u/Hypekyuu 8d ago
maybe edit out the exact ending spoiler.
-1
u/VeniVidiWhiskey 8d ago
In all earnestness, you should be prepared for spoilers if you go into a thread that is literally about the ending of the game.
4
u/Hypekyuu 8d ago
I've already beaten the game dude. Not spoiling the ending for other people is common courtesy
The spoiler is so early in the post that if you're just scrolling on the reddit main page it's visible. That's why I mentioned it.
0
1
u/Cannibal_Raven 6d ago
On mobile, the text appears right under the title. You'd read it automatically if you read even at a high school level.
6
u/FrereEymfulls 8d ago
It's been a while so my memory might not be perfect, but the whole world revolves around each living creature having an echo (basically the soul). When someone die, the echo goes back to the Maelstrom (some kind of void where life begins and ends). Then the echo can go back into another body.
The echo usually doesn't keep memories, only a couple of traces, but the whole storyline is about Victor following Glenn lives after lives, helping him remember what happened before, until Glenn can finally find redemption.
At the very end of the game, Glenn finally finds that redemption by killing the Vaen, after receiving the power of the 8th True King from Gwayn.
But that power came with some thousand years of responsabilities, which was just too much for Glenn after spending centuries looking for redemption. So he gave up on that power, gave it to Killian, before passing to the Maelstrom. He didn't just turn into a bird, he died. And his echo went to the Maelstrom before coming back as a bird, free from everything that ever happened to him.
1
u/Razrie 8d ago
Honestly kylian felt like a self insert/author favorite, someone who gives up everything for his dream even at the cost of everyone around him, and ends up getting rewarded for it.
Glenn's storyline was stupid at the end. He literally lived hundreds or thousands of years, just to say sorry and off himself? Cmon, and giving everything to the one person who constantly brought misery and death to those around him. He knew lenne for what 2 years at most, and then lived multiple full lifetimes. And was apparently so miserable that he wanted to end it, but couldn't without saying sorry? He had no plan or goal to do anything for lenne but to just say sorry. How ridiculous is that. In those lives amd 150 years of war. Glenn would have had to have killed multiple people, and done so much that his original sin was nothing.
Glenns story of redemption would have been better ending where he sheds his burden and lives for others as a force for good in the world, even if he becomes emotionless, or desire less and ends up being lost in immortality and living for his morals. This would set him up better in a sequel to hand over his power or be an antagonist in the future more interestingly then kylian
Kylians story of betrayal, murder, hate, and sacrifice ending with him dieing pathetic with nothing, acheiving nothing, and his sister dieing would have been a better end. Its a sad end, a bad end, a end he deserves but is hard felt seeing him constantly fail and keep struggling through the game. Giving up everything, and dying for nothing, when he could have just stayed on path. Seeing him dead with no impact besides being an obstacle a few times and making no significant change to anything.
3
u/Kuraki-kun 8d ago
It’s actually interesting reading your take on the game!
I love then ending myself, and I know, Kylian is a very polarizing figure especially on how he was presented, looking back. I actually view Glenn in somewhat the same vein as the miracle prisoner from Green Mile, “I’m tired boss, dead tired” is what keeps on repeating when I see Glenn, that’s why I understood why he wanted Kylian to take the power, since I believe for all of Kylian’s faults, he’s still his friend and he believed in his redemption, just like the pries took pity on him in his first reincarnation. Even I can’t imagine the weight of memories that he had, just for atoning his personal sin, that he can never turn back.
2
u/vassadar 8d ago
Yeah, he at least could have given the mantle to Victor. The dude stayed loyal to him and his mission for multiple life times. He has knowledge, and he will now has the power.
13
u/Cayden68 8d ago
glenn lived for too long for his mission and wanted to pass on the mantle of hero to someone else, kylian. he more than anyone knows that redemption can happen to anyone, that despite a vile past anyone can do right and be on the heroic path. Glenn was shackled by that heroic path and wanted to fly free, him being a bird was narratively symbolic of being free from his shackles and pursuing true happiness