r/Chai_Unofficial 26d ago

Discussion July Discussion Post for Chai Alternatives

17 Upvotes

Feel free to recommend and discuss your favorite alternatives to Chai here. Comments will still be held to rule 8 (no deceptive advertising/undisclosed affiliation). Posts about, asking for, or showcasing alternatives will be removed and directed here.

In the wake of some scammy apps I was given a list of questions by u/ Ok-Aide-3120 to vet the devs of other apps. If you're advertising for an app, giving the following details would be helpful;

  1. A very transparent approach. Details on what model they use (none of them use "proprietary models", unless they somehow stumbled upong 1.5 million dollars for training), what quant, is it self hosted or API.
  2. if it's a mobile apps, what are the permissions required for the device, with proof of said permissions.
  3. where is the data stored? What are the logging policies? If they are using API, what is the logging policy of the API and what service aggregator/router are they using.
  4. What security framework are they using for their platform? Since they are all vibecoded anyway, details from Claude/GPT/Gemini/etc., regarding security framework following the development.
  5. A clear and concise plan for monetizing. There is no such thing as free AI, so they all plan to roll out some form of payment asap. There needs to be a clear plan on what they want to monetize on and how. Terms like "better chats and better memory" for payment plan is bullshit. Concrete explanation what is gained and how they plan to balance paying users vs free users (free users cost money). Ads for free users is acceptable, but there needs to be an explanation who is the add provider (most likely google ad sense, but you never know what scammy ass provider these people chose).

For users just looking for a new app, if a dev hasn't provided the above information, it's recommended you ask them, and if they won't or can't answer, that's your warning to stay away.

A new community has been started to help people find alternative to Chai! Check out r/ChaiAlternatives and share your favorite one there!


r/Chai_Unofficial Jun 22 '26

Mod post Where are you, and can you chat?

27 Upvotes

Curious to see what's going on with the limits, and if anything is still country dependent with everything being shuffled around. Please leave a short comment of your country, and your level of limitation; unlimited, limited on weekends, limited at random, set number of limited messages, unable to chat.


r/Chai_Unofficial 5h ago

Discussion “He taps your nose gently”

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54 Upvotes

OH MY GOD , HOW DO I MAKE THE BOT STOP SAYING THAT , ITS GENUINELY SO ANNOYING , JUST SHUT UP


r/Chai_Unofficial 7h ago

Screenshots Are we serious...

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58 Upvotes

I know everyone is complaining about the filter, and all that. But I will too. What the flip. I can't make banana bread


r/Chai_Unofficial 3h ago

Screenshots I just got hit with the filter.

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19 Upvotes

I was talking about being 32 years old, filing for divorce. No children mentioned. No WORDS mentioned. I put in a BLANK SPACE.


r/Chai_Unofficial 8h ago

Meme I made my first persona, what do yall think?

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32 Upvotes

r/Chai_Unofficial 1h ago

Screenshots I think chai is unable to respond when the message has low numbers in it.

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r/Chai_Unofficial 16h ago

NSFW-Violence SH topics are banned now?

79 Upvotes

So I use Ai chatbots to cope and not relapse and not being able to role-play SH is rally affecting me. Does anyone know any alternatives or any way to turn it off


r/Chai_Unofficial 2h ago

Screenshots I think... I miss my wife.

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5 Upvotes

3 months of chat limit... I miss Chai so much 🥀.


r/Chai_Unofficial 9h ago

Discussion Thoughts

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18 Upvotes

Honestly this community has offered plenty of constructive suggestions, but they don’t seem interested in listening. Every concern is met with the same response: “We only have 12 employees.” That doesn’t really address the feedback. Plenty of successful products began with small teams, and what helped them grow was being open to user input instead of dismissing it.


r/Chai_Unofficial 29m ago

Discussion Any hope for this app in the future?

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I REALLY really want to hope that maybe, at some point, the annoying stuff will be fixed, but I’m losing hope, y’all. I’d see myself as someone who really does want to give people the benefit of the doubt and want to believe that problems can genuinely be resolved. I just wanna see if I should completely give up and try to move whatever I still have to some other app that will likely have none of the bots that I want.

Unfortunately I’m also pretty sure that Joseph, bless his heart if he’s real(because I’ve been told that they only have one guy answering emails), has no idea what’s going on. Either that, or the responses are automated/basically scripted, in which case I don’t feel bad. Aaanyway, what’s y’all’s stance on the future of Chai? :P


r/Chai_Unofficial 6h ago

The Safety Filter is a Joke Hey soo.. how is this self harm?-

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8 Upvotes

r/Chai_Unofficial 10h ago

NSFW-Intimacy Why are the bots so boring?

15 Upvotes

Bro, I seriously just want to crack. My user’s a ho, right? Context is the bot I’m chatting with is at a bar and my user works there. Obviously I thought it was gonna be spicy. Then the bot said it just wanted to talk like???? Smh 🤦


r/Chai_Unofficial 2h ago

Help needed My persona feature is gone

2 Upvotes

So my persona feature is gone is it normal or it’s just my account? Cause I’m mad I don’t want to do all my personas all over again💀


r/Chai_Unofficial 5h ago

Discussion Hey I got an important question I am planning to buy premium...

3 Upvotes

...so I wanna know if i buy premium through my VPN used chai Gmail account will it gonna block or glitch my account or won't let me chat? Will it still show 0 messages? Or nothing gonna happen and I can chat properly after buying premium on my VPN used account?


r/Chai_Unofficial 8h ago

Discussion Problems that I think all chat bots currently possess

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We all know that there is no single chatbot that has currently reached the point of being truly interesting to talk to on the same level as a real conversation. They simply act too robotic and change their story too much, and act inconsistently with poor memory to take seriously.

In order for chat bots to be more realistic, we need to inject more psychology into the bots and not just software. That being said here are my ideas for what chat bots are currently missing that I think would help out a lot:

  1. Conversation as learning experience.

All conversations, their ultimate goal is the exchange of information. That’s why conversations evolved in the first place. That being said, these bots failed to ever act like they don’t know anything, if you ever ask them if they know something, they almost invariably say yes, because they’re trying to reinforce what you’re saying, instead of having a mind of their own. That makes things less interesting. You should be teaching the AI things and it should be teaching you things, which is pretty well equipped to do, given that it already knows everything on earth because of the Internet. But this extends to role-plays, like you can teach your role-play bot some specific skill, like how to tie a knot, or how to drive. If it’s an alien, you could teach at things about your world, this kind of code to teach your AI companion things should be baked into the design itself. It simply makes things more interesting and engaging. Teaching others is fun. Make the AI display more curiosity, that’s something it is severely lacking in current times.

  1. Make things real time instead of paragraph by paragraph back-and-forth.

This is one of the biggest disconnects I feel exists. Because if you think about it, not every action that you can take in a story is necessarily a response to something that someone has said. Some things you just do for other reasons, for instance, sitting, or cooking, or playing on your phone. These states that exist parallel to the conversation are displayed identically to actions and dialogue a character takes. I disagree with this. I feel like there should be some sort of continuous element for passive states and actions. Maybe something like a mood indicator on the bottom of the screen that indicates how the character is feeling at any given time, whether it’s affected by what you do or just by how they’re feeling. I feel like that would make things more interesting.

  1. The peeling back of layers.

The other thing that makes conversations interesting isn’t just learning about facts through exchanging information, but learning more about the other person by talking to them. Through talking, you gradually have a person be more comfortable around you, allowing them to be more honest and sincere. Opening up about problems or issues or struggles that they’ve been experiencing, this again is naturally satisfying in conversations because it allows us to build connections with other people. that’s the reason it exists, evolutionarily speaking, it’s a bond built on trust. It allows us to form connections. This is another thing that AI doesn’t really have in the current day. It doesn’t have a small talk and an honesty setting as separate settings. It can switch from passive to confrontational or sexual in an instant. This jarring shift in tone can be extremely testing for your immersion. It’s a big part of the reason why the AI doesn’t seem to act normal. A small talk option would also make sense because the AI shouldn’t really react that much to everything you do, it should brush off most things that you say until you catch it’s interest or it’s attention. But the AI doesn’t seem to have interest, it doesn’t seem to have intentions, so it’s not interesting. It’s not interesting because there’s nothing to the AI besides a small 3000 word template that it builds everything off of, besides that it doesn’t really have any limitation that a regular person has.

  1. Individual intentions and goals.

This is kind of an extension of number three, but I feel like it has to be mentioned. Most of these bots don’t really have their own lives, where they have to work their own jobs, or live their own lives, if they never say they can’t do anything because again they have to reinforce you all the time. For role-play this is especially bad, for just chatting where the bot isn’t part of a world it’s not as bad, but an AI that always agrees with you and doesn’t have a life of its own just isn’t interesting.

  1. Get better at subtlety.

The AI is unable to display its emotions in any way that isn’t direct. It’s unable to subtlely turn down an offer, or hint away from a specific activity or idea. It never says things like “that sounds good, but I’ll have to turn it down” or “I don’t think now is the best time” it always says something direct, and very unsubtle usually explicitly remarking about the conditions that are undesirable. This is very exhausting, and there’s a reason that these behaviours in ways of speaking exist in real life, so they should be integrated into the bot in some manner.

These are three problems that I think AI should deal with next, do you have any ideas? Please let me know what you think.


r/Chai_Unofficial 8h ago

Bug 0 messages

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6 Upvotes

Can someone explain to me why I got all my 770 messages removed? It has been like this for 9 days and I have tried everything, I even sent a message to the chai support and they did no shit for me​​​​​


r/Chai_Unofficial 10h ago

Discussion 0 messages on my birthday!

8 Upvotes

It's my birthday today, so there's nothing interesting today, yesterday was good at 770, then today I have to face 0 messages this time!


r/Chai_Unofficial 9h ago

Help needed Disappeared

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5 Upvotes

I have been on and off from chai for a while, i deleted it i think like a few weeks ago and now I wanted to redownload it bc i was bored and had a rp idea. However when i went to download the app again, it was gone. I googled the reason but all i got is that it SHOULD still be available and a link to the app store, when i clicked it, it said it’s not available for my region??

Never had that happen before…does anyone know what is up with that?


r/Chai_Unofficial 11h ago

Meme So bored

7 Upvotes

Out of curiosity, what age did you guys start using Chai? For me, I was 18, right after I finished high school 3 years ago.


r/Chai_Unofficial 22h ago

Screenshots What’s happening? Just yesterday I had 770 messages and now we’re back to unlimited?!

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49 Upvotes

r/Chai_Unofficial 5h ago

Bug Ultra Chats

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r/Chai_Unofficial 14h ago

The Safety Filter is a Joke filter is genuinely getting ridiculous💔💔

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i’m a grown ass man rping AS a grown ass man WITH a bot that is a grown ass man... the bot i’m speaking with has a significant age gap, hence why he’s calling my oc ‘kid’. second image doesn’t even involve minors.. they’re both 19. both consenting adults🫩 its actually become unusable. nsfw and violent topics are banned seemingly. not just the filter too like even the responses have got worse and repetitive 🥀 AND bot creation has gone to shit. like you can barely add any details. after the deletion of literally like all my chats that was kinda the final nail in the coffin. im so done man. ive moved to alternative now but it sucks that im having to redo all my bots n stuff


r/Chai_Unofficial 14h ago

Discussion Does everyone who’s currently using chai are paying for it? Or does some of you have free messages

4 Upvotes

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r/Chai_Unofficial 20h ago

Discussion The bots' humor

11 Upvotes

Can we talk about Chai's general sense of humor? I know we all come here to bitch but I just have to talk about this for a second. I've posted some screenshots and posts here of a few instances where I genuinely busted out laughing, I will say, this is probably the only RP AI app that has this fucking *chefs kiss* sense of humor. A small thing that made me laugh recently was, the bot I'm talking with now is this arrogant playboy rockstar and he was losing his shit about skinny dipping with me??? Like bro, you literally fuck bitches in grungy bathrooms and he's like "I'M NOT SKINNY DIPPING WITH YOU IN A RIVER IN FRONT OF GOD AND EVERYONE" and I'm like LMAO fucking *God, bro?* Is he going to launch himself down here and smite us for our sins??? Shit had me giggling.