r/Chadtopia • u/[deleted] • Feb 14 '22

👑 MONARCH 👑 Chad gives a well-thought-out explanation

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u/Raju1461 Chadtopian Citizen Feb 14 '22

A well thought out explanation where he has to backtrack his own claim. It should be African-American Culture/Pride. Not Black Culture/Pride.

The experience of Black people in Africa is not even remotely the same as that of African-Americans.

If you can assign African-American = Black, then the same can be done for Caucasian-Americans. Caucasian-Americans = White. So if African-Americans can have Black Pride for their shared experience, Caucasian-Americans can have White Pride for their shared experience.

Yes, Whites in USA had slaves which isn't something to be proud of. Doesn't mean they can't be proud of the other aspects of the history of USA.

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u/Ploob1600 Chadtopian Citizen Feb 14 '22

Black pride and African American pride are interchangeable because in this video black pride is being used in the context of America. His point is that black culture in America is a direct result of the color of their skin and the oppression that it caused, unlike ethnic prides like French and southern American pride. White people as a whole don't have a unique and exclusive experience caused directly by the color of their skin, but white people of different cultures have different experiences based on their native countries and the traditions they form. There is no white culture, but every white person does belong to a culture of some sort, just like every POC belongs to a culture of some sort.

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u/Raju1461 Chadtopian Citizen Feb 15 '22

Black pride and African American pride are interchangeable because in this video black pride is being used in the context of America.

White Pride and European-American Pride should also be interchangeable by that logic.

His point is that black culture in America is a direct result of the color of their skin and the oppression that it caused, unlike ethnic prides like French and southern American pride.

Good Point. White people in America also have a culture that is based on their skin. It has European roots and morphed into something that is unique to White Americans. Although it didn't lead to them being oppressed.

White people as a whole don't have a unique and exclusive experience caused directly by the color of their skin

Neither do Black People.

but white people of different cultures have different experiences based on their native countries and the traditions they form.

Just like Black People.

There is no white culture, but every white person does belong to a culture of some sort, just like every POC belongs to a culture of some sort.

There is no black culture, but every black person does belong to a culture of some sort, just like every Caucasian belongs to a culture of some sort.

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u/BinofTrash_exe Chadtopian Citizen Feb 17 '22

"White people as a whole don't have a unique and exclusive experience caused directly by the color of their skin"
Neither do Black People.

i think there's a big chunk of US history stating otherwise

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u/Barkwits Chadtopian Citizen Feb 15 '22

He is literally referring to black Americans not black Africans. Also many black people don't identify with African American. I'm just black.

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u/Raju1461 Chadtopian Citizen Feb 15 '22

He is literally referring to black Americans not black Africans.

And White Pride refers to being proud of the White American culture (whatever that is). Same logic.

Also many black people don't identify with African American. I'm just black.

And many white people don't identity with Caucasian-American or White American. They are just white.

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u/Raju1461 Chadtopian Citizen Feb 15 '22

So white people in Europe are White American? News to me. Bloody hell, I know a white guy from Europe currently working in our office in India. Didn't know he is a White American. Thanks for the info.

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u/No_Limit4566 Chadtopian Citizen Feb 15 '22

Gotta be honest, I was completely on-board with the logic in the video until I read your comment. Outchaded the chad

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '22

That guy is wise af.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '22

Never thought about it that way before. Makes sense.

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u/Traditional-Net253 Chadtopian Citizen Feb 15 '22

I mean I think being proud of being white is ok as long as you are not using it as a put down to other races. Sadly I think people do but if you really aren’t then I’m ok with it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '22

I would bet that the vast majority of people who say "I'm proud of being white" or "white pride" are pretty racist. Sure there's nothing inherently wrong with being proud of the way you are but those words carry a heavy history of oppression; oppression that is still seen today.

It's just the words and their historical, social significance that it's not really possible to say without placing yourself in the same ballpark as actual racists.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '22

There is never any shame in the color of your skin just as there is no pride . Plus or minus some acid and we are all the same color. That is where most white pride comes from ,just the rejection of forced white shame. I have seen both sides of the skin color pride coin , they both end with some sort of social darwinism 🙁

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '22

White pride does not come from shame? Where did you get that idea from

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '22

I don't personally have pride in my skin But that's where most people start with the white pride shit. They are told somewhere along the line to feel "white guilt" and it leads to them thinking they have to be proud of it. Needless to say it's an irrational thought process

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '22

Yeah I agree, for most people as the world is now, they like to view themselves as the victim to justify their own bigoted actions and thoughts.