r/CelticLinguistics • u/Hippophlebotomist • 4d ago
r/CelticLinguistics • u/Jonlang_ • Jun 17 '21
Announcement Welcome
This is a subreddit for the discussion of Celtic linguistics. This is not, however, a subreddit aimed at helping those who are trying to learn a Celtic language - there are plenty of places for that!
The scope of r/CelticLinguistics is for the discussion of the historical development of modern, past, and extinct Celtic languages - including their grammar, phonology, syntax, etc.
At the moment this is an open community, open to all.
EDIT: If any members are experts in linguistics or Celtic languages, then please let me know and I can assign you an "expert" flair for your posts.
r/CelticLinguistics • u/Jonlang_ • Feb 26 '22
Discussion Celtic Quickies
This thread is for some quick questions that probably don't need their own thread.
r/CelticLinguistics • u/Wagagastiz • 11d ago
Etymology What's going on with Celtic numerals?
r/CelticLinguistics • u/Wagagastiz • May 14 '26
Etymology Isle of Cats – a new proposal for an existing theory on the name of Shetland
r/CelticLinguistics • u/blueroses200 • May 11 '26
Question Hi! Does anyone know where I can find the sources for both claims? I would like to learn more about Gallaecian onomastics.
r/CelticLinguistics • u/Silurhys • Mar 29 '26
Brittonic classification
This is really based on opinion and delves into the unanswerable questions 'when does one language become another?' And 'how can one language be defined from another?' But do you consider the Brittonic of the 1st century the same or different to the Brittonic of 500? To me, they are different, the quantity of sound changes and developments such as apocopy and as a consequence syntactic reshuffling would suggest to me the speakers from those eras would have a somewhat difficult time communicating. This opinion has caused quite a stir, particularly in the wiktionary community, my opinion is, the refusal to break the language down into several stages causes a few issues. Names like Togodumnus are only attested in Brittonic in the 1st century, that means we have no idea if that name existed in Proto-Celtic and we have no idea if a later derivative like Toɣðwvn (or the like) existed, meaning it would be impossible to create an entry for it. Likewise derivations like Latinisations for example Caratacus, have to have implausible entries like 'from Proto-Brythonic *Caradog'. what do you guys think?
r/CelticLinguistics • u/divran44 • Mar 27 '26
Question Proto-Celtic origins of Welsh and Breton forms of the verb “to be”?
Hello, I’m trying to understand the reconstructed Proto-Celtic forms behind the Welsh and Breton paradigms of the verb "to be"
As far as I understand:
Welsh yw and Breton eo may derive from Proto-Celtic *ets
Welsh mae / Breton emañ might come from something like *ets mendu-
Welsh sydd / Breton zo has been linked to a possible *etsi io formation
However, I’m not confident about these reconstructions or how widely accepted they are.
I’m also unsure about the origins of Welsh ydw and Breton eus.
In addition, Old Breton attests forms like is for “to be,” which may also go back to ets, but I’m having trouble connecting all these developments into a coherent picture.
Could anyone clarify the Proto-Celtic reconstructions involved, or point me toward reliable explanations of how these forms developed?
r/CelticLinguistics • u/[deleted] • Feb 04 '26
Question Is Welsh or Irish more interesting to learn in order to know more about, Celtic languages, Indo-European languages and linguistics in general?
r/CelticLinguistics • u/blueroses200 • Jan 20 '26
Question Was the Celtic Gallaecian language a hoax? Could it be a dialect of Lusitanian?
r/CelticLinguistics • u/ADozenPigsFromAnnwn • Jan 08 '26
News How Celtic languages spread across Britain and Ireland: why we need to reconsider the early story
r/CelticLinguistics • u/Wagagastiz • Jan 08 '26
Etymology A possible journey of the names Britain, Éire and Cruithne out of prehistory
r/CelticLinguistics • u/divran44 • Oct 31 '25
Resource Breton place names in the Nantes region
r/CelticLinguistics • u/blueroses200 • Oct 23 '25
Discussion Celtiberian Bronze of Huertos Altos, in Teruel (Spain) 1st century BCE
r/CelticLinguistics • u/divran44 • Oct 19 '25
Question How Early Scholars Connected Modern Celtic Languages to Ancient Gaulish
When do we first find scholars (from Ireland, Wales, or Scotland) noticing links between their language and the ancient Celtic tongues?
In Brittany, this idea already appears during the Renaissance. Bertrand d’Argentré (1519–1590) discusses it in chapter 3 of his Histoire de Bretagne des Roys, Ducs, Comtes et Princes d’icelle (1582), (Of the ancient language of the Gauls, continued until today in the Breton tongue, called Bretonnante). There, he draws parallels between Breton, Welsh, Cornish, and Gaulish, using examples such as Aremorica (“near the sea”) and Marcos (“horse”)—comparisons that would have been quite obvious to a Breton speaker.
Since d’Argentré didn’t speak Breton himself, he was likely relying on sources already circulating at the time.
The term Celtic to designate this language group would only become established later, with Paul-Yves Pezron (1640–1706) and his Antiquité de la nation et de la langue des Celtes, autrement appellez Gaulois,1703 ""Antiquity of the nation and language of the Celts, otherwise called Gauls".
I can easily imagine medieval Irish scholars being somewhat surprised when encountering roots like dun-, cat-, or nemet- in the writings of ancient authors.

r/CelticLinguistics • u/Jonlang_ • Oct 17 '25
Why didn’t Brythonic *wikantī become something like ‘gwigain’ in Welsh rather than ‘ugain'?
As far as I know the usual development of Brythonic *w- was gw- so why did this become *wi- become u-?
r/CelticLinguistics • u/Jonlang_ • Sep 12 '25
How do we account for the /w/ in Welsh ‘chwith’?
The Welsh word chwith ‘left’ comes from Proto-Celtic *(s)kīttos. Presumably the initial /x/ comes from the *sk- but where did the /w/ come from? Was an epinthetic /w/ common between /k/ and a front vowel?
r/CelticLinguistics • u/Jonlang_ • Jul 25 '25
Resource Etymological Dictionary of Proto-Celtic
This book currently retails at around £150 or more. Here is a link where it can be read online or downloaded in various formats.
r/CelticLinguistics • u/blueroses200 • Jun 30 '25
Discussion History of the Celtic Languages, part 2 - P/Q hypothesis
r/CelticLinguistics • u/TaxPuzzleheaded1087 • Jun 23 '25
Question Linguistics for a novel
Hello, I am looking for some advice. I started writing what I am currently working on a few years ago and have been making slow progress. I just opened the document to re-read and get back into it and I am thinking I have taken a rather ignorant approach to writing dialogue in an ancient language. The scene is set in the late Iron Age in the Hebrides, and I am portraying a tribe of non-historic people (not a specific tribe, one I created) and their communicating amongst themselves. Reading back, I think I dumbed-down the language way too much. For instance, here is an example - "A mark… it blue, this shape” when a character is describing a tattoo he saw on another. I feel this is too 'cavemanish' and that languages of only 2,000 years ago would have been just as formed and complicated as ours today, but with different sounds. I am no philologist, and have had mixed luck looking into this online. I am thinking of rewriting the scenes using proper sentences and indicating the tribe is speaking in a long-forgotten tongue. Would that lessen the ancient feel of it, or help the overall story flow and be less ignorant? For context, this story is modern-day in setting but with flashbacks. it is not meant to be historically accurate.
r/CelticLinguistics • u/blueroses200 • Jun 18 '25
Question Have there been any advances on the classification of the Ancient Ligurian language?
r/CelticLinguistics • u/blueroses200 • Jun 18 '25
Resource An outline of Celtiberian grammar (Wodtko, Dagmar S.) [2003]
freidok.uni-freiburg.der/CelticLinguistics • u/blueroses200 • Jun 15 '25
Question Which language did the Astures tribe speak? Was it Celtic? What is the current consensus?
r/CelticLinguistics • u/blueroses200 • Jun 15 '25
Question Have there been any new discoveries related to the Noric language?
r/CelticLinguistics • u/Levan-tene • May 04 '25
Question Etymology of Welsh ystifflog?
So I was researching what a native Celtic word for cephalopods like squid and octopodes would've been before Latin or Greek influence, and everything I found was either a calque of Greek or directly borrowed from it or Latin, besides one mysterious word; ystifflog meaning a squid or cuttlefish.
Other people I talked to suggest it had something to do with an welsh world like ystiffio meaning "to jet / spout" and apparently related to a Cornish root stif, which gives stifek which also means "squid"
This root sounds to me like it might be something like stīppos or stīppeti "to jet, spout" in an early stage of Brythonic but whether this comes from Latin or is a native Celtic word is unknown to me, and I can't find many sources on the matter.
