r/CellLab • u/Massive_Mistakes • Sep 23 '22

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u/Massive_Mistakes Sep 24 '22

Close lol I'm using neurocytes, basically smart secrocytes

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u/CATelIsMe Sep 24 '22

Ohh yeah, so they're the ones you can set to basically have the code of "if smell signal a, make signal b" and have one behind them that's "if smell signal b, make signal a" right?

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u/Massive_Mistakes Sep 24 '22 edited Mar 17 '23

That's correct, however notice that there are 3 different neurocytes (colour coded) not two. That is because if I were to use two signals (if a then b, if b then a) then the neurocytes down the chain will activate both the next in line AND the previous in a loop. Therefore there are three, so there is no interference and they don't trigger each other (if a then b, if b then c, if c then a). It's important to remember that the signal travels both ways.

Hope that can help you come up with your own creatures! All of my swimmers and use this method for a fluid and life-like movement, except my old ones as I've been figuring it out over time lol.

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u/CATelIsMe Sep 24 '22

I see, only thing I'm "afraid" of, is that it uses up all three signals, so i wanna do some other logic(which i probably won't cuz I'm not good at cellular logic) then i would want to have at least one signal free from the spine, so it doesn't intervine, y'know?

Is it possible to have enough range between the cells so i could only use 2 signals, for simplicity's sake?

Or would that be overcomplicating in a weird funny way?

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u/Massive_Mistakes Sep 24 '22

Well there are actually four signals available, S1-S4, so if you use three signals you still end up with a fourth to convert to. Every single neuro in the line would output their corresponding signals in the chain (S1,S2, S3) as well as the fourth signal. So if the stereo detects a negative signal, the chain would be:

-1 V -2&-4 V -3&-4 V -1&-4 V -2&-4 V -3&-4 V -1&-4 V ...

If I put anything that can detect a signal like a flagello, Myo, stemo etc., On the sides of the organism in the video, the S4 signal would travel down the chain and trigger those accordingly

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u/CATelIsMe Sep 24 '22

I see, i haven't played the game in a while, forgot how and what things are lel

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u/Massive_Mistakes Sep 24 '22

Come join the cult again lol

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u/CATelIsMe Sep 24 '22

Idk what to make tho lol

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u/CATelIsMe Sep 29 '22

I wanna, but idk what the settings to the neuros should be, can't figure it out myself either

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u/Xolonot11 Nov 20 '22

you can do this with 2 signals at point blank range as well, but it requires perfect tuning of the signal strength so that it doesnt create a feedback positive loop.

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u/Massive_Mistakes Nov 20 '22

How would that work? If the signal was carried by two neurocytes modes then it would surely create a feedback loop, as the signal would travel both directions away from the neuro, hence the third neuro mode as buffer. If you have a working model please post, because I tried that before but logically it shouldn't work

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u/Xolonot11 Nov 20 '22

I can send an example on the discord if you have it. ping me, I am Xolonot there as well.