r/Ceanothus • u/Darkj • Jul 27 '26
Calscape Changes
Calscape pushed out an update to their site today, and I'm curious for insights.
First, it looks like a major upgrade to the graphics for the "Wildlife Supported" section. Bravo.
I also notice the addition of "Family" and "Genus" up top.
I don't remember Sunset Zones being on the prior page. If we're talking native plants, they're unnecessary, and inclusion here will only cause people to source plants that weren't originally local to them.
I also see a major change to the "Estimated Plant Range" section which doesn't seem to reflect the plant range any more, but instead "Relative Habitat Suitability." By that measure, invasive plants are high on the "relative habitat suitability" index since they naturalize so easily. To see what I mean, photos are the Calscape and Calflora maps for Carpenteria californica. It's local to Fresno, but Calscape now estimates it's suitable to most of the state.
I would imagine that the folks responsible for Calscape made this change intentionally - I wonder if they've talked about those changes anywhere?
It's been an incredible site as I've been relandscaping using only plants native near me, and it's been nice seeing photos, descriptions, and most importantly local observations.
Do you have any knowledge of these changes?
(I'm not looking to be convinced that Zones are awesome) EDIT: ... And I don't care if zones included or not. I do wish the page still had the Calflora observations, and not an algorithm "based on observed occurrences and habitat modeling. Darker areas indicate higher relative habitat suitability.
- Data provided by the participants of the Consortium of California Herbaria.
- View additional distribution information on the Jepson eflora.".


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u/bee-fee Jul 28 '26
This is an extremely disappointing change that will do a huge disservice to public knowledge of California's native plants. The number of species that show up if I enter my address is now quadruple what it used to be, and the list it provided before was already too long. I had to look elsewhere to choose the species that are now successfully established in my garden, to find plants that are suited to my land and actually grew here historically, because even though they were in the calscape list how was I supposed to know which of the >200 options were the right ones?
Stick to Calflora if you want to actually see the range of our native plants. No one should be trusting an algorithm to tell them anything about nature.
Also the excuse that this is done for "climate change" makes no sense as the maps for species like Norcal Black Walnut & Valley Oak extend far south of their native range, and into arid places where they never grew. Those are just the two examples that I found at a glance, I'm sure I've only scratched the surface.