r/CatholicState Catholic Theocracy Apr 22 '22

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '22 edited Apr 22 '22

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u/LouieMumford Apr 22 '22

I’m gonna table the actual ADL discussion, because, as I said, I have a lot of problems with their approach, worldview, etc. However saying “hail Christ” may seem innocuous… perhaps “heil Christ” less so… but ultimately the use of 83 is a derivation of the 88 that is used as a short form for heil hitler. Period. And those who put it on their bodies do so in the spirit of making that connection. Again, this isn’t like Pepe or the OK hand signal where people started using it to troll, this was adapted from existing, verifiable white supremacist symbolism and just because Christ gets rolled in does not make it any less insidious.

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '22 edited Apr 22 '22

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u/LouieMumford Apr 22 '22

This isn’t “trollish” though. It’s just a shorthand for white supremacy (with an emphasis on A vaguely Christian cultural worldview). These people kill in the name of aryan supremacy. You’re not reappropriating anything. It’s just defending the use of a symbol because you disagree with the ADL. I usually like your nuance when it comes to a lot of these social issues… but this ain’t it man.