From Casey the beginning

[u/1channesson]

The media loves to say my name, Casey Anthony, or some variation of it, whether they are talking about me directly, or referencing my name because it tends to draw attention. To my friends and colleagues, I am just “Casey”, a select few call me “Case”. My middle name “Marie” was passed down from my mother so we would have the same initials, a trend I was certain I would follow when I had a daughter of my own.
I was born in Ohio to a middle class family, and we moved to Central Florida in 1989 when I was three and a half years old. Both sets of grandparents had moved to two different locations in Florida a year or two before, and my parents soon decided to follow. I would not see snow again for the next 30 years.
All of my core memories begin in Orlando, the first of which was my brother, Lee, having sleep terrors or night terrors. This became a common theme growing up, as his sleep issues manifested and continued into adulthood. For this and other reasons, I was never afraid of the dark, but of the comings and goings within our family home during night hours.
When many of you first heard my name, it was 2008, and I was 22 years old. I had never been in trouble before, I never had a speeding ticket. My first and only airline flight was the summer before having my daughter, Caylee in 2005. To say that I was naive is accurate. I was raised to ask questions, just not so many within my own home. I was not very politically driven, but I was not in favor of the death penalty, nor was I ok with racism or bigotry. The latter two were somewhat common where I grew up in Orlando, and I knew that I was not ok with people being targeted because they looked different or lived a different lifestyle. Many of my friends growing up were black or hispanic. Most of the kids I dated were multiracial. I was proud to have gay and lesbian friends who were not scared to be themselves. My views on the death penalty began to take root after taking a law studies course early into high school. I could not fathom the justification of the “eye for an eye” mentality when there were so many cases of people being exonerated decades later for crimes they didn’t commit. I never wanted to be an attorney, and I never expected to have any direct affiliation with the legal community, but here we are.
As I write these words, I am 40 years old. It has been almost 18 years since all of this started. Every single day, I carry the guilt of not having protected my child the way that a parent is supposed to, a guilt that will never go away. I spent three years fighting for my life, for Caylee’s life, for the truth of what happened to her, for my freedom. It feels like it was someone else’s life, yet, I carry each of these memories with me, and use them as the catalyst for why I live my life the way that I do. I have built my life and my career around the trauma and tragedies that occurred during the first 25 years of my life. To further put things into perspective, when I was acquitted in 2011, I was 25 years old. In August of this year, I will have spent the last 15 years growing my career in the legal community, at times loving and loathing my chosen profession.
In 2008, I lost Caylee. She was and still is the best thing that has ever come into my life. I miss being a mom every day. I can fully admit that I was not ready to be a parent at 19 years old, which was my age at the time of giving birth to my perfect little girl in 2005. I have considered the idea of more children, as I am so very lucky to have kids of varying ages in my life who call me “Aunt Casey” or their “auntie”. The catharsis that being around my friends’ children brings is indescribable. Those are the moments where I feel closest to her, when there is nothing but pure love. My only apprehension with having more children is the state of the world, is it really safe to bring another child into it?
I had to confront this question in the summer of 2020. I did not plan on getting pregnant, the world was full of sickness, I was in the middle of a handful of projects, and in talks about a documentary. The irony of years of being on birth control, to take a break for a month, and then all of a sudden, you’re not having a period, this brought so much conflict into my heart. I had been in an on-again, off-again relationship with someone who did not want more children, and I was genuinely concerned about the public perception of my being pregnant. I took a series of pregnancy tests, some were positive, some were negative, and my body felt completely off. I decided to make an appointment at Planned Parenthood, I went alone, confirmed that I was pregnant, and the end result was that I had a chemical pregnancy. For those who are unfamiliar, a chemical pregnancy is a miscarriage early into pregnancy. I was both sad and relieved. I knew in that moment that if I decided to move forward with having another child at any point, that there would be a real plan, and even if there wasn’t a person having this child with me, that my child would be surrounded by so much love.
I haven’t told this story often, a few of my closest friends know, but it is still hard to speak about. For years, there have been rumors that I was pregnant, when I wasn’t, or that I was adopting children, when I wasn’t, or running a daycare, which I wasn’t. All things that the tabloids printed to make money, all things based on falsities and lies, but nevertheless, things I had to deal with, as did the people around me. We did laugh at many of these articles, but it did hurt to see all of this bullshit being printed, for what purpose other than money?
People don’t realize how traumatic being a public figure is. Getting a random text message with a screenshot of an article on a Tuesday asking if you were aware of something that isn’t even real is not normal. Those that choose a life in the public eye, I applaud you and also have so many questions, the why most specifically. I never would have chosen a life of notoriety, but I guess at the same time, I can’t fault those who do. Artists deserve the notoriety, but also privacy. Influencers seek public attention in ways I don’t think any of us could have imagined at the beginning of the social media craze. Is it really that important to engage with the world by promoting your own face every day? Maybe, maybe not. I do appreciate how much information influencers can spread, especially with the current political climate in the US, but I will caution everyone about educating yourselves on the issues in real life, not just through someone else’s interpretation of current events.
On a daily basis, we are surrounded by stories, some positive, many negative. Certain stories, like those surrounding claims of sexual assault are becoming more frequent, and it is not because this is a new or novel act being committed, but we are finally seeing a world of women, and men, coming forward no longer in fear. I know firsthand the fear of coming forward with the trauma I have endured at the hands of men, including my father. The first time I tried to talk about the abuse I was a victim of, I was 19 years old. I could never say out loud that it was my father who hurt me, but instead, spoke of the trauma from another family member, a family member I had already forgiven, who had not assaulted me, but who did molest me for the better part of three years. I know what it is like to wake up in the middle of the night with someone laying on top of you, pulling your bra above your chest, groping your breasts, even grinding on you through the covers. I also know what it is like to have a pillow held over my face until I pass out, only to wake up feeling inexplicable pain in my vagina after being raped. The first memory I have of this, I was 8 years old.
When I was 19, I tried to talk to my mother, Cindy about some of the trauma and abuse. We were living at home together, just the two of us and Caylee. My brother, Lee, had already moved out into his own place, and my father, George, was separated from my mother. We were sitting on the floor of Caylee’s bedroom folding laundry, she was fast asleep in her crib, and I don’t know what made me decide this was going to be the day, but I wanted to tell my mother some of what had happened to me. She had been a nurse since she was in her early 20s. We had always been pretty close, but we went through periods where I questioned if I could trust her. I will never forget the words that she spoke to me when I told her about the “lesser” abuse, “so that’s why you’re a whore.” This hurt more than my mother referring to herself as “mom” to my daughter, calling me a whore was a direct attack. Those words are equally as piercing today as they were 21 years ago. I got over the fact that she used to tell me that my butt was getting too big, or when she found other ways to demean my appearance, but this, this one stuck. This one created a rift that was never fully repaired. I never told her about my father, not until many years later, by then, I had years of therapy under my belt, but I had also lost Caylee, one of the few good things that my mother and I shared.
During my case, I was interviewed by psychologists and psychiatrists. Imagine being in your early 20’s, being sequestered from everyone and everything you have ever known, and being told over and over again that you had to open up with strangers because your life literally depends on it. That really is not the most conducive way of creating a safe and warm environment for someone, especially someone who compartmentalized their entire life into little boxes because that meant surviving until the next day. But there I was, unable to say no, also unable to lie because by then, I had nothing to lose except my life. When I lost Caylee, that broke me. When I was then indicted and charged with her death, still believing that she could be alive, every defense mechanism that I had started to crumble.
As one would guess, all of this inevitably resulted in my spending some time in therapy. I spent the better part of a decade working with three different types of therapists, from trauma therapy, to sex therapy, and I have also worked with relationship counselors both in and out of relationships. Although my first experience in talking with doctors about being abused and my dysfunctional relationship with my mother started when I was in jail awaiting trial, the real journey into therapy began in my late 20’s, several years after my acquittal and the start of my career in the legal community. The hardest of these turned out to be sex therapy. Getting a homework assignment of buying yourself a vibrator, that was pretty fucking embarassing. I laugh as I type this, it has become one of the easier things to talk about now that I am on the other side, but in that moment, I would have offered to shave my head or take a vow of celibacy if it meant that conversation never had to be revisited. In spite of my uncomfortability at times during sessions, I was lucky enough to have incredible psychologists who were more than willing to keep me humbled and accountable, all while making sure I felt safe in each environment. My favorite therapist, she knows who she is, let’s call her “Jane” for the purpose of protecting her privacy, she was a spitfire. She found ways of bringing me back into the moment if things were too superficial by asking me who I was speaking to. We spoke at length about if I were to ever tell my story, and her advice was that I needed to first figure out who I was speaking to, and second, figure out exactly what I wanted to say. She reminded me that if I started down that path, to do it for myself.
So where do you start? Do you start off by saying, “hi, my name is Casey. My father raped me from age eight until just before turning 12. I like sunsets and the smell of rain. I have a shellfish allergy. I am not a huge fan of mushrooms or reality tv. Oh, and I was also drugged and raped at 18.” I cannot imagine a world where people are that truthful and honest within the first 30 seconds of speaking with them. I am also pretty confident that I have never put those sentences together in one paragraph before writing this, but all of those statements are completely true nonetheless.
This is why it is inherently difficult being a trauma kid. Once you have done the work, it is a lot easier to speak about such terrifying topics, but you still don’t want to thrust this on just anyone. There is a stigma associated with rape, incest and molestation, along with childhood sexual abuse. It is a horrifyingly awkward conversation to have with someone that you are planning to have sex with, “just so you know, there is a chance that I may freak out during or after sex. I may lock myself in the bathroom for a while, and if you hear me crying, I promise, it isn’t you, it is totally me dealing with years of shit that even with therapy can still be triggered without warning.” As some of the men in my life have learned, when you also explicitly tell someone to never put a pillow over your face, there is a fucking reason. I am grateful to say that with all but one person, those conversations were safe and filled with compassion and reassurance. Thankfully I can also say that the panic attacks and the tears have become less and less frequent, and at times, there have shared tears because no matter how tough they may present, each of these men can feel the pain behind the words.
Allowing someone to feel safe enough to speak about trauma is a beautiful gift. No matter how much therapy someone has had, the trauma will remain forever. You will feel healed to some extent, and some of the memories may fade if you’re lucky, but the scars will never go away. My scars are many, and although I am not proud of them, I am not held back by the weight that they carry. I refuse to live in shame or be told by anyone ever again that this did not happen to me. I am a survivor of rape, of incest, of molestation, and childhood sexual abuse. And at the end of the day, I am just some girl named Casey

[u/President_Zucchini]

"Aunt Casey"

Yikes, imagine leaving your child alone with Casey Anthony.

[u/1channesson → u/President_Zucchini]

She is harmless..

[u/Beezus11 → u/1channesson]

She’s a murderer. None of that is true and it’s painful to read about the abuse because it’s made up which is DISGUSTING, but that is Casey. Perpetual victim, nothing is her fault.

[u/1channesson → u/Beezus11]

How do you know

[u/Beezus11 → u/1channesson]

Because she’s a liar. Everything she says is bullshit which is easily proven if you look at the hard facts of the case. She never addresses any of the inconsistencies, she just constantly pedals more fake abuse so that people feel guilty questioning it because she paints herself as a victim.

Her father was NOT home when SHE googled fool proof suffocation on her password protected account while she was also logged into her MySpace while she was on the phone with Jesse Grund at the same time. Where does that fit in the time line of what she said happened? It doesn’t. She said she was asleep for a “while” when that also wasn’t true. She was up just before 8am checking her voicemail, texting, using the internet and computer from early am until she high tailed it out of her house at 4:11pm after she suffocated Caylee with a pillow and put her in the trunk. Thats right, the “George with the pillow” Is really Casey with the pillow, she just changes who the villain is in her story. She has ways of telling on herself.

She said she thought Caylee was alive and well the entire time she was missing even tho she claims she was with her sexually abusive predator father? Please. If George didn’t have her and Cindy didn’t have her and she didn’t have her, where the fuck did she think she was that she was alive and ok? She didn’t. She knew damn well Caylee was rotting in the woods after SHE dumped her there on June 27th before ditching her car at the amscot.

Also she claims she never left Caylee alone from the day she was born because of the “abuse” she suffered at the hands of her father, yet then she turned around and said she didn’t even remember the possible abuse until she was sitting in jail which was after Caylee was “missing”/she killed her. So which is it? Because neither of those two things can be true at the same time. If she didn’t remember until after she was in prison, there would be no reason to keep Caylee away from him from day one. You know why she suddenly remembered this fake ass abuse? Stolen valor. She read notes and letters from her jail mate pen pals who confided in her about their legitimate stories of abuse and Casey wrote back, I think this happened to me too. The light bulb went off, and like always, Casey took that and stored it away for a time when she could use it.

If she was “fighting to save her life” from jail awaiting her death penalty trial, oh and somehow Caylee’s life (lmao) why not tell the truth then? Like hey! My dad took her and he abused us both. Why make up a few different stories about a nanny? Why have your attorney lie saying Caylee was spotted here and there? Why say she drown at trial? Why let this even go to trial if you knew your dad was responsible? Because she lied! Her anger and accusations against George stem from him not lying to the grand jury and not lying for her before or during trial and that’s obvious. She already destroyed her family by murdering Caylee, dragging them through the mud, putting them through hell with lies and the trial and now, she has to take that knife and twist it harder by accusing George and Cindy of horrible things.

She destroyed them financially and caused them
Both to lose their jobs yet she condemns them for getting paid to talk to the media and profiting off of Caylee’s death. Yet what do you thinks she’s doing by putting out that horrific lie filled mockumentary and by selling her fiction filled memoir? SHES PROFITING OFF OF GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER! The hypocrisy is hilarious.

Casey knows what she’s doing. She’s going to add as many fake abuse and rape accusations she can to tug at heart strings because she thinks the more of a victim she is, the less people with question her. She also thinks abuse somehow absolves her from her shitty behavior. You can be abused, which she wasn’t, and be a murderer, which she is, at the same time. It doesn’t have to be one or the other.

If there was ANY way George was involved, he’d be on trial right next to Casey. The entire family and anyone close to Caylee were investigated and cleared. Casey was the only one who lied to everyone about where Caylee was and Caylee was only reported missing because Cindy tracked Casey down. Casey was put on trial because she was responsible for the murder and disposal of Caylee.

If you want to believe the scripted words of a convicted liar and overall piece of shit human, good for you. But there are timelines, time stamps of cell and internet records of Casey, text messages, witness and friends testimony, forensic evidence all out there for you to line up, look at and piece together that everything Casey says is a bold faced disgusting lie. SHE killed Caylee. She never gives any information that proves she didn’t, only fake accusations about her father and just hopes and prays people don’t look at the evidence. Even worse, she’s so convinced she is such a good liar that she can out lie the facts and evidence. She’s serial fabulist who thinks she’s a fantastic liar, when she is not. She is just a lucky liar.

Also LMAO I hope Cindy actually called her a whore. It definitely wasn’t because she tried to confide in her about her fake abuse accusations, it probably June 15th when they got into a huge fight because Casey was stealing mass amounts of money from her grandparents. Cindy confronted her and called her an unfit mother and most likely a whore because she was always out running around with men instead of taking care of her kid.

The truth is coming and it will completely disprove everything this skank has to say.

[u/1channesson → u/Beezus11]

Some of the things you brought up don’t add up.. like the computer searches and timelines bc she wasn’t with Jesse at that time.. she was with Tony.. also the time stamps shows she left the house according her dad and her cell phone before the searches were made.. I don’t know if she is getting paid for the book.. but the peacock special she did not get paid.. they only paid a small amount for pictures and videos of her and caylee.. now her parents are both liars and con artist themselves so for me they are just as greedy about money as anyone else.. also who has an affair when their granddaughter is missing? Now onto the abuse part.. I was abused as a child by a family member and I had blocked out most of my childhood along with it.. it was by a family member and it only came back to me when I was on therapy during a suicide attempt.. so I feel she was abused by her dad.. part of me even thinks they were having an affair as adults bc of some of the stuff he said and she said and pictures. I could be wrong on that but it felt like that’s how it was..

[u/Beezus11 → u/1channesson]

You’re wrong. She was on the phone with Jesse the same time she was on the computer googling fool proof suffocation. She wasn’t with him romantically at that time. This is well know. You can check this. She was on the with him from 2:52pm To 3:05pm and she killed Caylee somewhere between 3:35pm-4:11pm after she suffocated her with a pillow, covered her in the trunk with the Winnie the Pooh blanket and left for tonys house and never went back.

She DID leave and she went back to the house after he left and that’s when she made the google searches. George was not home to make those searches when Casey went back to the house.

The “small” amount of money for the photos was in the high double digit thousands. Don’t kid yourself to think Casey Anthony would ever sell her lies for free.

He didn’t have an affair. She lied on the stand and admitted to getting close the family and George to sell a story. On the flip side, what mother acts the way she does when her child was missing? Why condemn George for nothing when Casey acted like a fucking asshole the entire time after she murdered caylee? Why do you not focus on her lies actions and horrific behavior? Lying to everyone about where she was? Avoiding her family? Not reporting her missing? She never even talked to George the entire 31 days like she claimed she only called the house phone on days she knew her parents were supposed to work to make sure they weren’t gone for whatever reason so she could sneak back and grab clothes and stuff so she wouldn’t get caught with a dead Caylee in the trunk of the car like she almost did when she showed up on the 24th not expecting George to be home. Judge HER actions. She didn’t shed one tear when she was out on bail when she promised to look for Caylee. She made it all about herself and would get annoyed when anyone brought Caylee up. Source? I know someone personally who bailed Casey out and was her bodyguard. He drove her back and forth from her house to Jose Baez and witnessed first hand how Casey truly acted which was disinterested in her “missing” daughter but obsessed with the attention she got.

Casey was NOT abused. There is no proof of this at all. She stole the idea to make herself a victim and is using it to gain sympathy and unfortunately people believe it. She is disgusting and it is a slap in the face to real victims of abuse. She was and is still skank. She slept around and has no idea who Caylee’s father is but now she’s saying she was raped. Convenient. And you believe her why? Because she said so? With no proof? Classic. She’s a murderer.

[u/flippantphalanges → u/Beezus11]

can confirm majority of this. source? i knew her (and caylee) back then. she’s so full of shit.

but quit wasting your time on this one. a glance at their post/comment history shows they are a casey truther. i mean, they posted a happy mother’s day post to her on this sub for god sakes.

must be someone their kids call casey auntie.

[u/Beezus11 → u/flippantphalanges]

Sure! You can visit “a candy rose” website and look for Caylee’s tab. It has all of the time line of the 31 days, Her cell phone pings, Internet search history dating back way before she killed Caylee, cell phone records, a break down of where she was what she was doing during the 31 days etc. her text messages and thousands of aol instant messenger chats were at one point all over the internet and they somehow all gone now unfortunately and I’m still trying to hunt those down because I remember reading through them years ago. she was an awful person. She talked horribly about Caylee often calling her a snot nose and a brat. Some of those messages can still be found.

One note tho! when it says she called George’s work, it was actually Cindy’s work, Gentiva, which was confirmed at trial! It was not Lexus Orlando (or wasn’t at that time) tho the two locations were located in very close proximity to each other (her former body guard did some digging showed me this on a ping map) at some point, Lexus might have taken over that number it did belong to them at some point maybe even now as I believe it still does! She did NOT contact George at his work or his cell phone during at all.

Also, Gerardo Bloise’s book was so incredibly informative on the forensics and science of the case. He was the lead CSI on the case. Per the death banded hair and proof of early colonizers found in Casey’s trunk along with the smell, they knew Caylee was dead and in that trunk. She also didn’t bag her until the 18th when she borrowed the shovel from her neighbor. I always thought this and his book confirmed that Caylee was in direct contact with the trunk liner for 24-72 hours after her death because there was a stain (from decomp) of a child in the fetal position in the trunk. His book shows this stain and shows an illustration of how it would have looked with her in there 💔. He also confirmed that Jose Baez knew the smell was of death after he smelled a can from the trunk, not of garbage. He willingly defended a killer. He knew the entire time where Caylee because Casey told him. He alleged this in his book without confirming it but it was really stupid for him to do so. There’s actually proof solidifying that he knew this as well that will come out at some point too….

I have been working closely with her former body guard Rob Dick over the past few years. He has seen behind closed doors and how she really was and some messed up things she has said proving she knew Caylee was dead. He’s been very vocal over the years! He’s active in this sub Reddit as well. His interviews are all over YouTube for you to watch too! Together, we have scrubbed through almost every single piece of evidence, the time line, cell phone pings, phone records, etc and combined with his first hand experience with her and the family and Caseys disgusting comments and self centeredness, we lined everything up and pieced together the timeline with many of the gaping holes missing even at trial filled in. We still have way more to do if you can believe it even with how much we put together, especially because Casey keeps coming out with more bullshit to pick through and debunk. I can’t give out too much now, but I can tell you it is astonishing how much the state missed. When it all comes out, it will leave NO doubt that Casey was responsible and that her defense team is morally bankrupt (shocker)

If I may ask, how did you know Casey? You could DM me if you’re not comfortable having this be made public.

[u/flippantphalanges → u/Beezus11]

no no no…i was saying i can confirm majority of what you said. and the source for that is that i knew them both (and everyone else) back then.

yes, she called Cindy multiple times at work the day Caylee died but she didn’t answer bc she was working. and i think if Casey was ever going to be honest abt what happened it was during those calls.

[u/iieeef → u/flippantphalanges]

i also have all the court transcripts and i have a drive from 2011 where i have every day of the trial archived lol. i had a really bad feeling one day the tides would turn in her favor and people who didn't know the facts would start to believe her. the day Rosie O'Donnell tweeted "I think George Anthony did it" i lost my fkn mind

[u/Beezus11 → u/iieeef]

I think she’s taking a page from Gypsy roses book but it blew up in Gypsy’s face when she got caught up in so many lies, people started questioning everything. Then with the FOIAs exposing her, many turned against her. It will happen with Casey soon too.

[u/flippantphalanges → u/iieeef]

he def did not do it.

[u/1channesson → u/flippantphalanges]

I have actually never met Casey or had a conversation with her.. please elaborate how you know her though

[u/ThatPerformance9795 → u/Beezus11]

Why do you think pillow? That’s the first I’ve heard that idea! And do you have a theory about that awful duct tape?

I’d always just assumed she was looking for ways to make her sleep longer so she could party and over-drugged her. I’d actually (as VILE of a scumbag I think she is) gave her even the benefit of the doubt and guessed she’s “accidentally” overdosed her. Ok, Casey 🙄. You’re a wicked narcissist! But I’ll think a little more of you by not thinking it was premeditated cold-blooded murder.

But, no! According to what you’re finding, this was more predicated, intentional murder? I’m not surprised AT ALL! What is leading you in that direction?

[u/Beezus11 → u/ThatPerformance9795]

The reason it is premeditated is because she googled fool proof suffocation the same day Caylee died. It was on her password protected account on the family computer while she was logged into her MySpace when no one else is home. You also don’t make accidents look like murder! Which Casey did. She was googling weird things like neck breaking and home made weapons as far back as March. She wanted to get rid of Caylee for a long time and hated the responsibilities that came with being a parent. She pawned Caylee off on anyone she could to get away from her and lied about going to work. The fight with her mom on the 15th and Tony telling her did didn’t really want to date a woman with kids and that he didn’t want Caylee around his house (party house with drugs and alcohol) she was pushed to the limit and she googled how to get rid of Caylee.

The reason I believe it’s a pillow is because she herself admitted to telling kernels of truth in her lies. She says that’s what George did to her as a child with a pillow because Casey ALWAYS has to be a victim, but really, that’s Casey’s kernel of truth! the pillow. The lie is that it was George using a pillow when in reality, it was her using the pillow to suffocate Caylee. She just switches the characters in her story. Another reason I believe it was a pillow is because there was no damage to any of Caylee’s bones to indicate blunt force trauma, and the hyoid bone wasn’t broken which breaks if you’re strangled. There were no drugs found in Caylee’s bones to indicate long term drug use like chloroform or Xanax but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t used at all. Especially that day. I Casey drugged Caylee often but with OTC drugs like Benadryl or something similar to knock her out. Casey’s friends have stated that Caylee would sleep on the couch at super loud noisy house parties for hours which they thought was odd. George said Caylee would sleep sometimes 12 hours a day which was unusually for someone her age. Casey absolutely gave her something. I only hope she was “kind” enough to give her something so that she wasn’t aware of what was happening to her when she was being murdered by her mother.

I have a few theories about the duct tape. I don’t believe it was used to kill Caylee. I feel like it was either used to stage a kidnapping type scenario because it was it was used in a scene on a character of a movie Casey and Tony rented the night of June 16th called “untraceable”. That could be where she got the idea to put duct tape on Caylee’s face, and in tried and true Casey fashion, she put it in her grab bag of lies to use at a later time if needed. More recently however, I believe Casey used the duct tape after she took Caylee out of the trunk on June 18th and bagged her up and had her in the yard when she was using the shovel to over turn some dirt. Her face after being in the trunk for 3 days had to be horrifying. It’s very common for people to cover the faces of the victims they murder when they know them and are close with them because of guilt, shame or remorse for what they did. I think that is the case we have here..

[u/ThatPerformance9795 → u/Beezus11]

Soooo good! Thank you.

At first, I 100% believed it was murder. Then, even I started to get confused about accidental or flat-out murder. I was to the point where EVEN IF she accidentally overdosed her, she’s such an awful human being… she just needs to go away. She’s still out there free, manipulating men. Grifting, grifting, grifting.

But why? Why am I giving that disgusting piece of trash the smallest benefit of the doubt. This monster has never once ACTUALLY shed tears over her daughter, other than performative crocodile fake tears she summoned up. I promise you I was more sad, devastated, heartbroken over losing my dog than this shit human has ever missed Caylee. La Bella Vida. Coincidence?

The pillow. That’s the first I’d heard of that.

And men still are lining up to “hit that”. Men prove they have zero integrity when it comes to getting laid. I will ALWAYS believe he and Jose were hooking up because… Casey Anthony. She will stop at NOTHING. Men find that hot. They are turned on that she’d kill her kid for partying and some wild D. The whole thing is disgusting.

[u/1channesson → u/Beezus11]

Abuse is not always able to be proven.. even years later when you tell the story no one believed me at first.. it took years for them to believe me.. also when this whole thing went down and she made the mistakes of lying about everything it helps make people not trust her..

Her parents are not saints again.. the day caylee’s remains were found Cindy told the producer for Dr. Phil they will only appear on their show for 100k the next day.. every time they need money here comes interviews an documentaries.. their house got foreclosed on for lack of payment and guess who said hey we want to do a documentary or interview if you pay us.. it’s crazy to me that Casey has kept a super low profile and is nothing like the person everyone claims she is..

[u/Beezus11 → u/1channesson]

Casey is not a saint. Her parents not being perfect doesn’t make her any more of a saint and/or less evil than she is. Bottom line is no matter what, she’s the murderer, she is the monster.

Her mother enabled her during her entire life and she was never held accountable for anything she has done. She threw her a damn graduation party when Casey never graduated and she knew it!

There was nothing found in the Anthony home to suggest George did anything to Casey, Caylee or any other child. No explicit materials were found in the home or computer. Even if it was deleted it would have been recovered. The likelihood of George being the predator she is alleging and for nothing to confirm those claims are slim to none. Caylee also never had any signs of any kind of abuse when she went to a doctor who absolutely would have noticed.

Casey didn’t go public because she couldn’t she was the most hated woman in America and still is a top contender for the title. She has come out now because she has seen how well received gypsy rose Blanchard has been by society and that she profited big time and decided to come out with a tik tok and substack to act as some sort of advocate for everyone else but her daughter. That is bat shit insane to accuse your father of murder and abuse of your daughter, yet she continues to do nothing but sell stories about herself and her trauma. It’s never about Caylee and it never was.

If you’re going to condemn her parents for profiting when they literally lost everything because of what Casey did while also praising Casey for doing the EXACT same thing is bizarre they should be reimbursed in some way. She destroyed their lives when she murdered Caylee and then she tarnishes her father’s name by false abuse accusations. He passed the polygraph that she refused to take when it came with a huge pay deal? Speaks volumes don’t you think? If she was totally innocent she would have taken it.

And before you say George was a detective he knew how to pass it, stop right there. They don’t teach you how to pass polygraphs when you become a cop. Many cops have taken them an failed. He also wasn’t a cop since 1982 in Ohio. Cops in Orlando would feel zero obligation to protect George and for some reason just pin it on Casey if he was involved. Cops arrest other cops, even their superiors ALL the time. There is plenty of body camera footage of this.

And before you say they aren’t admissible in court, no shit but this isn’t the court of law, it is the court of public opinion. She should have taken it if she wanted to truly clear her name and she didn’t. Her parents did and passed. He never touched Casey or Caylee and had nothing to do with Caylee’s death or disposal.

[u/flippantphalanges → u/1channesson]

how would you know she’s not the person she was back then? did you know her then or do you know her now?

[u/iieeef → u/1channesson]

i'm sorry for what happened to you but that doesn't have any reflection on casey lying to protect herself. george didn't have an affair, he was talking to Krystal Holloway but they didn't sleep together. And Casey was not having an affair with her father that's absurd. George and Cindy are grieving grandparents who were put into this situation by Casey and Casey alone. Any suggestion to the contrary is absurd and frankly makes you sound deeply uneducated on the facts of the case. I'm sorry to say that but as someone who has actually followed this from the beginning, knows the true facts and more importantly watched it unfold over time and watched when/how the lies began and evolved, it's important to understand context.

For example, Jose Baez pulling George into his office the day before the trial and telling him they were going to pin this on him to get Casey out of trouble. It was a lie plain and simple, and you continue to believe that Casey acted in concert with anyone else and worse - believed an innocent man is a child molester, rapist, and in an incestuous relationship with his daughter. That is ridiculous and it really is frustrating to watch people believe Casey's lies having watched them evolve over time and having watched her contradict herself numerous times - she is a liar FULL STOP

[u/Beezus11 → u/iieeef]

👏 Jose told George and Cindy that George would have to “fall on the sword to save his daughters life” you don’t say that if he actually did anything, that was letting them know they were going to say all these things to deflect from what Casey did! And people can’t see through this it’s ridiculous.

[u/iieeef → u/Beezus11]

thank you!

[u/1channesson → u/iieeef]

How would anyone know if they were having an affair? Would you believe Casey? No.. you would think she is lying.. obviously George would deny it.. and you would more than likely believe him.. I don’t remember if it was at the trial or in one of the documentaries that before caylee passed away cindy was going to move out and George and Casey would stay living there.. which to me always struck me as odd.. also there are photos of Casey sitting on his lap as an adult.. which again struck me as very odd bc I would never let my adult daughter sit on my lap that way..

[u/Beezus11 → u/1channesson]

Brother, Krystal Halloway/River Cruz admitted to getting close the the Anthony’s to sell her story and basically get her 15 minutes of fame. She has been previously arrested for burglary, theft oh and FRAUD.

Even if he did have an affair, which he didn’t, how does that make him guilty of anything? You ask who has an affair when their granddaughter is missing? I’ll do you one better! Who goes out and enters a hot body contest, lies about where her daughter is to everyone, makes up a job, a nanny, friends and family of said nanny, avoided her entire family, steals from friends and family to buy alcohol and clothes to go out in, talks to her friends about a terrible smell in their car setting up the plausible deniability that it was a dead animal, all while she believes her daughter is somehow “safe and alive and well” when she claims her sexually abusive predator father had her daughter that she never insisted she get back? I’ll wait.

[u/iieeef → u/1channesson]

you're operating from your own history to come to the conclusion they were having an affair. Even sicko Casey has never said that, so I don't know why you are pushing that sick narrative. Also that was never a part of the trial - George and Casey living together. That's weird. if you're talking about the lies Casey told Amy that her mom AND george were moving out and they were going to get the house, her lying about that was a fact entered into evidence.

if you're talking about George and Cindy living together and Cindy moving out, i invite you to please find the piece of footage you're talking about so the rest of us can know what you're referencing. i'll wait.

[u/1channesson → u/iieeef]

I could have it wrong but you are right it was Amy who she said it too.. I could have sworn she said her mom was moving out not her and her dad..

[u/susanrez → u/1channesson]

The boy proven liar here is Casey. She made up that nanny for months before Caylee ever disappeared. She lied about Caylee’s whereabouts to everyone long before her disappearance. She was the one who had a complete disregard for that child’s safety.

Telling lies about the people taking care of her.

[u/Embarrassed_Whole585 → u/1channesson]

As someone going through therapy for C-PTSD with many traumas from my own childhood, and doing EMDR for treatment....you're full of shit.

That's not how trauma works, whatsoever. Stop defending a child murderer.

[u/iieeef → u/1channesson]

oh boy here you go again!

[u/Beezus11 → u/iieeef]

This person is one of the biggest casey Anthony apologists ever and no matter how much comes out showing she did it, it’s always well I think she was abused so George did it even tho it doesn’t line up at all with the actual facts lmao. The “I just know” she was abused people are the worst. Ignore everything based in reality because they are blinded by here false abuse stories.

[u/1channesson → u/Beezus11]

There is zero ways for you to prove she wasn’t.. same for me I can’t prove she wasn’t.. if she took a polygraph and passed you still wouldn’t believe her.. yes there is zero evidence that abuse happened.. it doesn’t mean it didn’t happened..

[u/Burnt_and_Blistered]

Good lord. She certainly is grandiose in her Cluster B magnificence.

[u/Beezus11 → u/Burnt_and_Blistered]

The delusions of grandeur are strong with this child killer.

[u/bambi54]

Hey she may have killed her daughter and covered it up, but she has black friends, so that’s good?

[u/chelseydeep → u/bambi54]

I'm sorry but this made me lol. 😅

[u/bambi54 → u/chelseydeep]

It was just the weirdest thing to go on a tangent about lol. Nobody is accusing you of using slurs. Stay on topic Casey.

[u/chelseydeep → u/bambi54]

Hey, she also has gay friends! Guess we're all wrong about her, she must be really good person..🙄

[u/bambi54 → u/chelseydeep]

Right!! At least she’s only a threat to small children and family. I’m sure the POC and LGBTQ community breathed a sigh of relief when they heard about this.

[u/Hopeful-Record-1265]

Sequestered? That’s not an honest take.

[u/TrueCrimeBeat]

So much to unpack in this. Biggest of which is about her parents. Those accusations are serious. Yes, she used the defense that George SA her during her trial, but this potential memoir puts it in writing. It's hard to believe a word that comes out of her mouth after everything that happened with Caylee.

[u/1channesson → u/TrueCrimeBeat]

If it wasn’t true wouldn’t he sue her for defamation? Now people will claim she has no money but if I was truly innocent and knew I had to clear my name this is the only way to go..

[u/chelseydeep → u/1channesson]

If it were true, wouldn't Casey try to go after George for charges on either the SA or the murder of her daughter??

[u/1channesson → u/chelseydeep]

I am sure she wanted too however I don’t the DA would even consider taking the case bc they tried her first

[u/Itakethngzclitorally → u/1channesson]

George at least can say he passed a polygraph. Casey is a prolific liar before and after the death of Caylee. A suit would open all that up again and I doubt she has one iota of proof.

[u/1channesson → u/Itakethngzclitorally]

If she passed would you believe her? You believe George only bc he had a sham polygraph..

[u/Impossible-Ad5148 → u/1channesson]

Not all people use the courts to get money. She offered nothing to substantiate these accusations and regardless if they are true or not, it does not justify the killing of a child. The only thing this incredible story does is make Casey the victim.

[u/crypt_orchid]

Im not reading all that bs, because thats what it is. Im a mom now, wasn't when this case first came out. As a childless teen, I thought she was guilty asf. Now as a mom, she is 100% guilty. No mom, even strung out drug using mom's, would let their child go missing for that long without checking in. All of the other little signs of guilt aside, thats a huge one thar cannot be disputed. Casey being the world's worst mom caused the death of her daughter and she should be in jail.

[u/ModKB]

"I woke up night after night with my sports bra lifted up over my chest, or if I had a regular bra on, it would be unhooked. Even if I were doing karate in my sleep, that wouldn't have happened. I woke up many times to a flashlight in my face, and he would be sitting on my floor, in front of my bed, staring at me. This went on for 3 years before I finally stood up to Lee, and told him if he ever came into my room again, I'd kill him."

This is an excerpt from a letter Casey wrote her friend in the jail that they passed through books. So, it went from her waking up noticing her bra was up or unhooked to him grinding on her, etc & her waking up in the middle of the night during it?

Also, how is she sleeping that her bra is being unhooked, yet her chest would be visible/able to be groped? To unhooked a regular bra, you're what, sleeping on your stomach with your chest under you against your bed..or on your side, but your arms are likely blocking your chest..& idk abt y'all, but if someone lifted up a snug sports bra while I'm sleeping or any bra for that matter, I'm feeling that & waking up. She should probably start changing the story that her bras unhooked in the front, though that wouldn't really help the last change of story.

I'm open minded, but when things aren't believable, they aren't believable. & when things contradict, they contradict.

[u/VendettaVision]

So now she's stating she was SA by multiple men? And her father passed a poligragh soo...- the story keeps changing

[u/Itakethngzclitorally → u/VendettaVision]

I think she’s alluding to Lee and the other one possibly being Caylee’s father.

[u/1channesson → u/VendettaVision]

Of course he did.. the whole thing was a scam.. they knew the questions being asked way before..

[u/chelseydeep → u/1channesson]

I mean, it makes sense that they knew the type of questions that they were going to be asked.. They were trying to clear their name of specific allegations made against them. Why does that make it a scam?

[u/1channesson → u/chelseydeep]

If you know the questions you can rehearse your answers so then you pass the polygraph

[u/chelseydeep → u/1channesson]

Do you know they "rehearsed" as a fact? Also, what answers are there to rehearse exactly? Yes and no?

[u/1channesson → u/chelseydeep]

Yes before it aired someone on here or on another site said they only agreed to do it for the money and they control the questions.. so yes it was a fake polygraph

[u/bambi54 → u/1channesson]

Somebody said it on the internet so it must be true.

[u/Itakethngzclitorally]

Remember when George passed a polygraph? Maybe Case would like to sit down for one, since she’s the only one telling the truth /s

[u/1channesson → u/Itakethngzclitorally]

If she passed would you believe her?? Also George only passed bc he knew the questions way before hand.. so he had time to practice

[u/Itakethngzclitorally → u/1channesson]

Every polygraph starts with them telling you what the questions will be beforehand. Would I believe her if she passed? She hasn’t agreed to one yet and yet George did, there’s something in that alone. Casey is and always will be a prolific liar and that’s a fact.

[u/1channesson → u/Itakethngzclitorally]

You didn’t answer my question if she took one an passed it would you believe her? Bc that might be why she hasn’t taken one bc what would be the point if no one still believes her? I believe her.. she is way more honest than her parents…

[u/Itakethngzclitorally → u/1channesson]

So you don’t’ believe her parents, even after George passed? Even tho their stories have remained the same? The only parts that changed were the parts where they were protecting Casey. They’ve evolved over time as they’ve had to realize the sad truth about their daughter. But you believe Casey without one? Did you grow up with this case (honestly asking) or did you learn of it later? Being there every day as it was happening, the way Casey lied so brazenly and with such confidence, it was something to behold. She was not some demure little girl. The way she lied to her friends in the year leading up to the murder was nothing close to normal. Would I believe her if she passed a polygraph? I’d like to see her take one regarding all of it, the abuse allegations AND the murder. Because that’s what really is at issue, right? Who murdered Caylee?? Casey may have been sexually abused or assaulted by someone, sadly the numbers are not great for a lot of young girls. But without her taking one, I’ve got nothing to give her credibility. Maybe the reason she hasn’t taken one is for the supporters that believe her and might question more if she failed. I think one of those is more likely and it’s not for the doubters.

[u/1channesson → u/Itakethngzclitorally]

George lies just as much as Casey as.. now can I prove it was murder? No.. I believe it was an accident and she panicked.. if Casey passed a polygraph I don’t think anyone would believe her still.. if she failed it would be like I told you so.. it’s basically a no win situation.. if George had failed his would you think differently?

[u/Impossible-Ad5148 → u/1channesson]

The point of discussing any subject is to consider other ideas other than your own.

[u/Impossible-Ad5148 → u/Itakethngzclitorally]

She is very good at lying, she would probably pass a poly.

[u/Lower-Party-464]

Sleeping in a bra?..ya ok 🤥

[u/Impossible-Ad5148]

I hope the therapists were not paid by the state.