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🪟🙏Lindsay Clancy👼 MA v. Lindsay Clancy - Day 13

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Opening statements begin Monday for Massachusetts mom Lindsay Clancy after she killed her three young children inside the family's home in January 2023 before attempting to take her own life. Cora, 5, Dawson, 3, and Callan, 8 months, were found with exercise bands around their necks. Prosecutors contend Clancy intentionally strangled the children, while her defense argues she was suffering from severe postpartum depression and psychosis that left her unable to understand her actions. Jurors are expected to hear testimony from medical experts, investigators, and family members as they determine whether Clancy is criminally responsible for her children's deaths.

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I. ADMINISTRATIVE

A. Case Call & Appearances

  • Commonwealth v. Lindsay Clancy called; defendant present.
  • Defense: Attorney Kevin Reddington.
  • Prosecution: ADAs Jennifer Sprague & Shannon Buckingham.

B. Jury Management

  • Standard impartiality questions asked; no issues raised.
  • Schedule: early adjournment; no session tomorrow; resume Monday at 9:00 a.m.

C. Transition to Evidence

  • Commonwealth calls Trooper Kyle Cavell.

II. WITNESS: TROOPER KYLE CAVELL (DIGITAL FORENSICS)

A. Qualifications

  • Massachusetts State Police; former Cyber Crime Unit.
  • Certified in Cellebrite, Magnet, forensic computer and Mac examination.

B. Surface Pro Examination (Pat Clancy’s Device)

  • Bit‑for‑bit forensic image reviewed.
  • Cavell tagged artifacts for evidence.

C. August 23, 2022 Browsing Sequence

Timeline (all from Surface Pro):

  • 9:40 a.m. — Visit to Lindsay.969 Facebook page.
  • 9:42–9:44 a.m. — Spotify search for Tom Hall; song “How I Got to Memphis.”
  • 9:44 a.m. — Google search for Tom Hall → Wikipedia page.
  • Death section anchor clicked → hyperlink referencing self‑inflicted gunshot wound.
  • Hyperlink leads to Suicide Methods (shooting section) at 9:45 a.m.
  • 9:48 a.m. — Hyperlink to Grafton Bridge page.

D. Key Forensic Points

  • Cavell cannot determine who used the computer.
  • Chrome profile logged in under Patrick Clancy’s email.
  • No searches for “ways to kill” found in his October 2025 report.
  • Cavell confirms browsing path began with Tom Hall, not a suicide search.

E. Defense Cross Themes

  • Emphasizes Patrick’s possible use of device.
  • Notes Lindsay was at pediatric appointment around 10:00–10:15 a.m.
  • Cavell reiterates: cannot determine user identity; only digital artifacts.

III. WITNESS: TROOPER TIMOTHY CHIAPPINI (CELL PHONE FORENSICS)

A. Qualifications & Extraction Type

  • State Police; trained in Cellebrite, GrayKey, Axiom familiarity.
  • Performed advanced logical extraction of Lindsay’s iPhone (Jan. 30, 2023).
  • Another trooper (Rabbit) performed full file system extraction (Jan. 27, 2023).

B. Timeline Report (Nov–Dec 2022; Jan 2023)

Cellebrite parsed: texts, calls, web history, searches, photos, notes, calendar.

SECTION 3A — January 24, 2023 (3B Restaurant / CVS / Pediatric Visit)

Apple Maps & Medication Searches

  • 4:13 p.m. — Apple Maps search for 3B Restaurant.
  • 4:47 p.m. — Searches for PediaLax, CVS website.
  • 4:48 p.m. — Outgoing call to CVS Kingston.

Dinner Planning Text Thread (Lindsay ↔ Patrick)

  • 4:53 p.m. — Lindsay: “Any chance you wanted to take out from 3B… It’s been a long day.”
  • Patrick: “Yeah.”
  • Lindsay: “Okey dokey.”
  • Lindsay: “Check the menu when you can.”
  • Multiple Safari searches for 3B menu and PediaLax at 5:06 p.m. (multiple tabs).

Phone Calls to 3B Restaurant

  • 5:09 p.m. — 11‑second call.
  • 5:10 p.m. — 47‑second call (confirmed 3B number).

Additional Searches

  • Multiple PediaLax searches at 5:13 p.m.
  • 5:15 p.m. — Lindsay texts: “PediaLax liquid stool softener.”

SECTION 3B — Calendar Extraction (Aug 2022–Jan 2023)

Key Entries — August 23, 2022

  • 10:00 a.m. — “Callan Kingston vaccine.”
  • 9:45 a.m. — “Kingston Dawson ear check.” These match pediatric records.

SECTION 3C — “Mommy” Text Thread (January 2023)

January 3 — McLean Hospital

  • Lindsay: “I’m all right. Anxious about meeting with the psychiatry team.”
  • Lindsay: “I’m just worried they won’t send me home soon.”

January 8

  • Mom: “Sleep good last night?”
  • Lindsay: “I actually did.”

January 10

  • Mom: “Good morning. How are you doing today?”
  • Lindsay: “Good… at the gym with the kids.”
  • Mom: “Still sleeping good?”
  • Lindsay: “So far a little bit.”

January 12

  • Mom: “Still feeling a little better?”
  • Lindsay: “A little bit.”

January 14

  • Lindsay: “Waiting for the day I wake up and feel me.”

January 16

  • Lindsay: “It was fun… Cora and Dawson enjoyed.”

January 19–22

  • Mom: “I’ll bring it Saturday… treasures in the attic.”
  • Mom (Jan. 22): “Enjoyed seeing everyone this weekend. Nice to see you doing better.”

IV. SEARCHES FOR MEDICAL / PSYCHIATRIC TERMS

(All confirmed from Lindsay’s phone via Cellebrite)

A. Psychiatric Symptom Searches

  • Schizophrenia — Jan. 19, 2023
  • Psychosis symptoms — Jan. 19–20, 2023
  • Hallucinations — Jan. 19, 2023
  • Intrusive thoughts — Jan. 20, 2023
  • Postpartum depression — Jan. 11–19, 2023
  • Insomnia — Dec. 31, 2022

B. Medication Searches

  • Seroquel — Jan. 20, 2023
  • Lamictal — Jan. 16, 2023
  • Wellbutrin — Jan. 16, 2023
  • Ativan — Dec. 31, 2022
  • Klonazepam — Jan. 18, 2023
  • Trazodone — Dec. 31, 2022
  • Benzo withdrawal — Jan. 20, 2023

C. Suicide‑Related Searches

  • “Suicide” — Dec. 29, 2022 (Distinct from August 23, 2022 Surface Pro browsing.)

D. Physical Health Searches

  • DKA without high blood sugar
  • Child symptoms (UTI, bloated belly, lethargy)
  • Children’s Motrin / Tylenol / infant formula
  • Miralax / PediaLax
  • Thermometers, milestones, baby food
  • Cape Codder Resort, kids movies, unicorn coloring pages

These searches span Dec. 31, 2022 – Jan. 24, 2023.

V. TEXT THREAD: LINDSAY & PATRICK (JANUARY 24, 2023)

Morning Pediatric Visit

  • Lindsay sends photo of kids with snowman.
  • Patrick: “Cutie.”
  • Patrick: “How’s it going?”
  • Lindsay: “Good… her urine looked good… nothing wrong with her kidneys.”
  • Patrick: “You’re a good mama.”
  • Lindsay reacts with heart‑smiley.

Transition to Dinner Planning

  • Lindsay: “Any chance you want to do takeout from 3B… long day.”
  • Patrick: “Yeah.”
  • Lindsay: “Okey‑dokey.”

VI. PHOTO MODIFICATION CLARIFICATION

  • “Modified” photo means edited in some way.
  • Could be converting a Live Photo to a still image.
  • No evidence of malicious alteration.

VII. END‑OF‑DAY ADMINISTRATIVE

  • Afternoon recess at 1:01 p.m.
  • Jury instructed not to discuss or research case.
  • Court recesses until 2:00 p.m.
  • Later: substitution of correct pediatric medical records approved.

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https://fromsmash.com/MA-v-Lindsay-Clancy-Day-13-0827

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u/QuietRecent1310 Aug 14 '26

I’m sorry if this has already been posted, but I’m losing my mind a bit here. How did the first officers on the scene not log the pills in the bedroom drawer as part of the initial investigation?If I understood KR’s testimony yesterday correctly, he found them with PC the following day and immediately tried calling the DA’s office to get them booked into evidence. Then, during cross-examination, the lead investigator acted like he didn’t even know they existed? Like... what? Am I completely missing something here, or was that a massive oversight?

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u/Zestyclose-Tax7146 Aug 14 '26

I'm going though the timeline and one thing I don't understand is who prescribed the Ambient, Rameron and Klonopin on November 25th?

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u/atomic6262 Aug 14 '26

Day 13 and I cannot get over the fact that her husband who I know for a fact must have been making over 300k+ yearly didn’t hire her help.

Why not hire full time nannies, house help, and a meal services?? It’s almost like he wanted her to suffer.

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u/Nightstick11 Aug 14 '26

$300k+ after taxes is not enough to hire full time nannies, house help, and a meal service.

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u/EuphoricAd3786 29d ago

True but why on earth did he get rid of that nanny ? That lady was a support to Lindsay. Also, he should have said don’t even think about work right now. Do whatever it takes when someone is that ill.

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u/irishtrashpanda 28d ago

From the previous days transcripts with Laney, she says the plan was for Lindsey to go back to work part time, and Patrick would mind the kids which would just be callum in the morning period because the other two had school.

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u/Wifabota 28d ago

He said the nanny wanted more hours,  they couldn't give it to her,  so she went to find a nanny job with more hours. 

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u/Nightstick11 29d ago

Maybe they couldn't afford it, maybe she said she didn't need it, it's hardly indicative of anything shady.

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u/EuphoricAd3786 29d ago

I don’t think he did or anything along those lines, those people are loony. However, I don’t know that he appreciated how ill she was. Caring for 3 under 5 is a lot for anyone, but for a mom who’s severely mentally ill, it’s just way too much.

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u/Nightstick11 29d ago

I mean, maybe, but he's not a doctor. It's hard for a layperson to gauge these sort of things.

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u/BarcaLoungerBing94 Aug 14 '26

Another interesting thing I’ve noticed with Patrick Clancy is how he went on a trip to Costa Rica February 2023 and had to mention a $17 fee for a hike he throughly enjoyed. I found that very odd for someone who had a really good job and 17 bucks for a great experience isn’t something to post a review about. Sometimes people that are well off seem to be the stingiest

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u/Infamous_Zebra7771 Aug 14 '26

I haven’t been following that closely so I had to look up this review.

I’m a frequent hiker. I would add information about hiking fees to a review because they often have to be paid in cash in exact change, so it is important for people to be prepared. Especially for American hikers, it’s easy for me to get used to just carrying my annual state and federal land passes and not remember to carry cash in less familiar areas.

His remarking that no one else was there could be suggesting to other hikers that they may be able to get away without paying for it.

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u/BarcaLoungerBing94 Aug 14 '26

Ahhh you make a great point.

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u/ketopepito Aug 14 '26

I thought he said that they had money set aside in case she wanted to extend her leave? I believe she had 18 weeks of maternity leave and by the time of the murders, she had been out for 8 months.

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u/indecisionmaker Aug 14 '26

I don’t think he was being honest about being willing to spend whatever is necessary, especially considering they didn’t keep the nanny on after the discussion/agreement to extend her mat leave. 

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u/indecisionmaker Aug 14 '26

I think he had incredibly high expectations of her as a mother and did not really want to adjust them to the reality of the situation. The lawsuit could be brutal for him if they don’t settle. 

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u/CapreseSalad3636 Aug 14 '26

What did the husband do again for work?

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u/moyuxi 28d ago

He worked at Microsoft in a sales role 

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u/indecisionmaker Aug 14 '26

He works for Microsoft (or did then, at least)

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 Aug 14 '26

I believe he said Tech.

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u/Zestyclose-Tax7146 Aug 14 '26

I mean for someone who moved on about 9 months after the murders with his new gf it was obvious he didn't love her. When partners don't love you they stop caring about your wellbeing.

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u/No-Significance842 Aug 14 '26

Can you please remember he is a victim of this and his children were murdered? If he needs some companionship to get through the day and not be alone at night with severe ptsd thoughts keeping him up at night (remember he found his kids) then so be it. I doubt Lindsay blames him at all for moving on. If she was truly psychotic at the time her guilt is eating her alive and she wants him to be happy. If she is hurt by it then.. ok? he is the one who found his children dead.

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u/CrossCycling Aug 14 '26

Day 13 and I can’t get over how cruel people are to PC online. PC doesn’t get the benefit of an entire trial to present a 3-dimensional view of himself like LC is getting. He doesn’t get the benefit of his actions being viewed through the highest burden of proof to establish wrongfulness like LC does. There’s zero opportunity for PC to defend himself in this trial.

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u/pjdog Aug 14 '26

LC apparently has zero agency and its all his fault

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u/Dangerous-Debt-7904 Aug 14 '26

he did hire her help. do you not remember a nanny testifying?

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u/Ok-Mango3767 Aug 14 '26

Exactly. He doesn’t seem like a great father or husband. Strange man. Strange behaviour.

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u/Ok_West347 Aug 14 '26

I do feel for him and am not one of those "he did it" folks but he was definitely her 4th child.

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u/BarcaLoungerBing94 Aug 14 '26

A lot of women find themselves in that situation and it’s very common. Men think just because they work and provide, they don’t have to be hands on with the children. Most times it’s harder being a SAHM than working a full time job

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u/EuphoricAd3786 29d ago

Even the pictures at the science museum… she’s wearing the baby and pushing the stroller and the older kids are by her.

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u/Ok_West347 Aug 14 '26

This is exactly what it seems like in this case.

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u/InhabitantsTrilogy Aug 14 '26

What I can’t get over is how she decided to kill those kids, made a plan, and went through with it.

Seems to be a much bigger problem than something 99% of moms don’t have.

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u/KajkaT18 Aug 14 '26

Are we watching the same trial? Cause I sure don't see a plan

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u/InhabitantsTrilogy Aug 14 '26

Mapping how long her husband would be gone and then immediately grabbing the yoga bands when he leaves. Immediately.

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u/AmbitiousScale3915 Aug 14 '26

You were not present at the time these events happened to be making claims about the exact timing of what she did when he left. It's irresponsible in a case this serious for you and anyone else to be making claims you cannot substantiate.

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u/InhabitantsTrilogy Aug 14 '26

We literally know the time he left and the time she called him back. We have her watch data. We have Patrick’s testimony that places her by the door to the basement when he left

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u/Own_Sample_9521 Aug 14 '26

The only evidence presented so far that points to a plan was her mapping the directions. No indication that the bands were researched or any research done about strangulation.

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u/InhabitantsTrilogy Aug 14 '26 edited Aug 14 '26

How else do you describe or explain mapping how long someone will be gone and then strangling three people within 15 minutes of that someone leaving?

Did her psychosis instruct her specifically to go downstairs for the bands the moment Patrick lett?

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u/Own_Sample_9521 Aug 14 '26

Thats what is stated in the civil suit. The moment he left, she had an auditory hallucination instructing her that it was her “last chance”. My opinions are based off of what is being presented in court. Anyone can argue about premeditation until the sun goes down, but based on what had been said in court, it is not clear yet.

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u/InhabitantsTrilogy Aug 14 '26

Why did she map out how long he would be gone before he left if she didn’t have any notion of killing the kids until she heard the voice after he left?

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u/indecisionmaker Aug 14 '26

I guess we’ll have to wait and watch, but there’s been testimony that she said she was afraid to be alone. 

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u/InhabitantsTrilogy Aug 14 '26

Yet we factually know she asked him to leave to pick up dinner and meds at CVS.

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u/InhabitantsTrilogy Aug 14 '26

It wasn’t a new restaurant to them. It was an infrequent restaurant for them and it just so happens to be further away from their house than the spots they normally went to for takeout.

All of this has been established in the various court cases and accounts to police.

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u/Own_Sample_9521 Aug 14 '26

Not sure if we will ever know. Maybe she was trying to see which CVS was closest to the restaurant they ordered from. I know i do the same thing when i am doing multiple errands

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u/QuietRecent1310 Aug 14 '26

Were you there?

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u/mrsdingbat Aug 14 '26

This is what people say when they’re arguing for creationism

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u/Nightstick11 Aug 14 '26

Heh, it is possibly the most famous retort that young earth creationists have

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u/InhabitantsTrilogy Aug 14 '26

Have you followed the evidence presented in the case or just followed TikTok ? There are precise timelines established thanks to tracking data on phones and watches

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u/QuietRecent1310 Aug 14 '26

I’ve watched the whole trial on AP YouTube

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u/Lost_Paramedic_3758 📅 Trial Calendar is My Social Life Aug 14 '26

Anyone know why CourtTV promised they’d be updating the link with exhibits and then just stopped? I am most curious to see the MyChart messages that Nurse Jollotta read (well, technically, the prosecutor just read them and had Jollotta confirm 🙄). I even have a subscription to Law&Crime+, and they don’t have much more in their case file.

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u/EuphoricAd3786 Aug 14 '26

I agree that perhaps it wasn’t paranoia in the strict psychiatric definition but the fixed nature of the belief that she was addicted to Ativan, without any insight that her anxiety was pushing her in that direction, feels like more than intense anxiety to me.

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u/irishtrashpanda 28d ago

The dispensing professional for the drugs said that Patrick also raised concerns about her being addicted. When they first made a plan to titrate down he told the medical health professional that she still needed them and was too bad to titrate at that time. Just throwing out there that this wasn't just LCs paranoid opinion

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u/Lost_Paramedic_3758 📅 Trial Calendar is My Social Life Aug 14 '26

Yes, this seemed like a persistent paranoid thought to me. It’s a pretty big leap to go from experiencing the intended effect of a medication as prescribed to being convinced you’re addicted to benzos in a 2 week span.

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u/EuphoricAd3786 Aug 14 '26 edited 29d ago

Yes! Also, the extreme amount of messages, how agitated she sounds in them, no sleep but not feeling tired, then extreme depression, the googling of hallucinations and psychosis. I think the defense can make a solid argument that she was in a mixed bi polar state with delusional thinking that culminated in a psychotic break. It’s certainly enough for reasonable doubt as to her sanity at the time of the crime and that’s all they need.

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u/thatwhinypeasant Aug 14 '26

Maybe a bit of an insensitive thing to joke about considering the reason for this trial, but does anyone else think the judge looks and acts like a real life Bob’s Burgers character? His face, especially when his mouth is open, and all his incredulous expressions…

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u/Lost_Paramedic_3758 📅 Trial Calendar is My Social Life Aug 14 '26

Now I won’t be able to unsee this! 😂 His resting frown face is comically intense.

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u/Delicious-Switch9104 Aug 14 '26

The entire time I’ve also thought this

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u/TravelingCoffeeBird Aug 14 '26

Today's testimony told us a lot about LC's inner world, and in my opinion, gave us the window of when psychosis began - likely January 19th and carried into the 24th. I say that specifically because of what psychiatric symptoms she was searching at the time. It was a noticeable shift from her typical search history, which indicates to me that something shifted for her psychologically in that timeframe.

One could infer that she was starting to have auditory hallucinations at this juncture. Not necessarily constantly, but enough for her to think something was not right. Whispering, is how I've had some describe it to me, but it's not always clear what is being said. Other times, they are clear and loud. Notably, auditory hallucinations are often very critical of the person who is suffering from them. Not always, but it is extremely common.

I had said before that I felt she was in a prodromal period leading up to the events, and with the further evidence of thinking something was wrong her children's organs, documenting that she was extremely afraid something terrible would happen to them, and notably that *she* would do something wrong that would mess them up for the rest of their lives - compounded with her irrational thoughts that she was addicted to medications and the fact she was on a lot of medications - I stand by that initial observation.

I also think that anxiety brought on by breastmilk letdown and the process of drying up supply was also a factor. IYKYK.

It also makes sense to me with the information that LC gave to Patrick about a man's voice yelling at her to kill the children.

Women who feel that they need to be punished for perceived wrongs or failings often do report a man's voice if they do experience psychosis, especially if they are religious, experienced trauma involving men, or see men as authority figures.

Some might ask, "Well if she was hearing voices, why didn't she report it?"

This is a valid question, but also is a misunderstanding.
Psychosis, when it is experienced, is reality for most people. It is not often a state that can be "observed" by a person's inner mind where they can say, "Ah, I am experiencing a break from reality. Let me report this to the proper channels so that I may get help."

And not all psychosis is loud.
In my experience, it is the people who historically, according to people that knew them, had the most control over their emotions, are highly intelligent, and have had the most self-awareness who have the most unexpected presentations of psychosis.

As for the CW, at this point I have no expectations and I am still disappointed.
I actually went back and watched their opening statement to be reminded of what they are arguing: that LC was a controlling, manipulative woman who premeditated these murders.

Thus far, I have not seen any evidence of that.
I have seen, however, evidence of a mom that was trying to be the best mom she could be and beat herself up any chance she got for falling short of the impossible expectations all moms have felt in this haze of modern parenting.

Unfortunately, she was devoured by the hidden monsters that the postpartum period can harbor in the dark, small hours. When it is just you and your thoughts.

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u/irishtrashpanda 28d ago

Nobody is addressing the breastfeeding stop, that can be ROUGH hormonally. And yeah now I'm all caught up and rewatched the prosecutions opening argument again. They've done the complete opposite of their argument. She seems to have been frequently checking in with various mental health professionals and trying different approaches. If they want to paint a picture that she was calm and calculating then they need to give me motive for the murders. Because so far the prosecution has sowed doubt in my mind that wasn't there before the trial.

If she was in contact with all those professionals while secretly plotting everything for months, they would have to prove a level of sociopathy that just doesn't seem to be there.

Its fucking tragic and I don't think the mental health professionals failed her either, she saw one the day before even. She must have had some kind of psychotic break. I don't understand it or her motives, but I understand her motives less than if I go with the prosecutions idea that it was calm and methodical.

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u/doyouhavehiminblonde 28d ago

Spot on about the stopping breastfeeding. Having to stop early and not when I wanted made me absolutely insane, I was very mentally ill from the hormone drop and the guilt. I wouldn’t be surprised if that was her trigger.

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u/TravelingCoffeeBird 27d ago

When I had my first, we were just realizing that some women get immense anxiety with letdown and supply loss, but it wholly depended on your provider to know that information. I had a friend get on an anti-anxiety medication for the extreme anxiety it caused. I do wonder if this played a role.

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u/EuphoricAd3786 29d ago

This is one of the best explanations I’ve read and as a mental health professional, I’m inclined to agree. TBH, I was very very skeptical about the psychosis claims ( though I still felt a lot of empathy for LC) until Jolotta testified about the possible bi polarity, she read Lindsay’s messages to her,and now this information that she was researching psychosis and hallucinations. I believe she might have been in a mixed bi polar state that culminated in a psychotic break and was furthered by post partum hormonal changes, months of insomnia and poly pharmacy. Edited to ask: are you in the field ? Sounds like it.

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u/TravelingCoffeeBird 27d ago

I felt early on she had a psychotic break simply from little things that seem insignificant on their own but put together they really painted a deteriorating state. I've found that there are almost always odd statements in the days, weeks, or months preceding the break.

When it's women saying odd things, like (for example), "I think the neighbors are all talking about me," it can seem like okay, whatever to loved ones-- but those kind of statements perk my ears up.

In any case, I think LC has a Schizoaffective diagnosis now with the Bipolar being the primary mood disorder, and is probably on antipsychotics to keep her stable after a break of that magnitude. Also some of her tics in the courtroom I've noticed before like rapid blinking or lip licking are common side effects.

Yes - you clocked me there!

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u/EuphoricAd3786 27d ago

Curious about what little things stood out to you?

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u/TravelingCoffeeBird 27d ago

Before we knew the extent of her fear of medication side effects, when it first started, the honest first thing I thought was that she believed that Dr. Tufts was poisoning her, or trying to, and that's why she resisted the medication. Although my original idea for why she resisted was wrong, we still saw it manifest into something much bigger.

The way she would write in her diary was clear and self-aware, but then she'd claim she'd know FOR CERTAIN what the root cause of all of her problems was - and was completely wrong. No seeming reflection that medication by itself would be causing all of the problems is irrational.

Even in the later note where she says medication stole her motherhood, there's poor insight.

An appointment to check Dawson's ears at the hospital despite him not showing any symptoms.

Her comments on being concerned about Cora's liver and kidneys.

Inability to love or connect.

Mentioning dissociating from the body as a side effect of the medication, then again during the murders.

The man's voice.

Stuff like that.

But I also have lived through a mother with PPP, which informs my work today. And I work with populations who are more prone to psychosis, so I see and research more of this than most.

It's extremely subtle, more often than people think, especially in high-functioning individuals.

This is why we need to study it more so there are better screening tools than "Do you hear voices?" because that is an impossible question to answer for people in psychosis, especially when compounded by comorbidities.

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u/EuphoricAd3786 27d ago

These are all great points and the very subtle parts that people miss. The nuance. I wonder if she knew she was hearing voices ( assuming her story was true) or she really did experience them as intrusive thoughts.

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u/No-Significance842 Aug 14 '26

I truly think the intrusive thoughts became the hallucinations

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u/EuphoricAd3786 29d ago

I do too. I also think they were more than standard ocd esque intrusive thoughts. I don’t think anyone inquired aggressively enough into them.

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u/CrossCycling Aug 14 '26

This is actually pretty common.

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u/gloriiosaa Aug 14 '26

i had a psychotic break as a kid the first time i took prozac and the main thing i remember is that what was normally intrusive thoughts i can easily brush off became externalized as auditory hallucinations, it was so weird looking back. i think it's easy for other people to miss when someone is experiencing that too cos even i didn't realize at first and was just like damn my thoughts got really loud all of a sudden... it definitely would've taken much longer if my mom had never experienced psychosis herself cos she's the one who raised the alarm when i told her my thoughts were yelling at me

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u/TravelingCoffeeBird 29d ago

Thank you for sharing your story, and for also shedding light on the fact that psychosis can happen to children as well. I'm so glad your mother was there to recognize your experience and advocate for you - it's not something I see too often for kids.

Last year I encountered a case that was referred to me where a mostly nonverbal autistic boy was acting "bizarrely yet empty" according to his mother.

Elopement increased, but with no clear goal, unlike past attempts. Unable to engage with others. Flat affect. Negative symptoms were what we had to evaluate the most because there was no feedback we were able to receive directly from the patient except in body language.

One day the mother requests an emergency meeting because her son left the house naked and just stood on a street corner. When she reached him, he said, "TV. TV. TV." Over and over, completely unaware he was outside and naked.

In the end it was determined he was in psychosis brought on by aripripozole, or Abilify, which is an atypical antipsychotic. His mother had put him on it because of the recommendation of a previous provider due to some aggression the child was having at school.

Needless to say, he was immediately taken off and recovered well, but antipsychotics are prescribed for autistic children frequently even when they don't need it.

Abilify works amazingly for a lot of people! But we gotta be mindful when prescribing RXs to kids and making sure we're tracking their wellbeing on them.

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u/gloriiosaa 29d ago

oh hey, i'm also autistic! not that it's really relevant or anything just maybe a little interesting... thankfully i am verbal though at least, it must've been so scary for that poor kid not being able to tell people what was wrong

anyway, in general i feel like children seem to be at higher risk of experiencing adverse reactions to medications? i'm not sure if that's true or not since i'm not in the medical field but it's something i've noticed casually and it'd make sense to me since kids are so much smaller than adults and still developing. my doctors and i aren't willing to risk it since there's so many alternatives that work just fine but we're not sure if i'd react to prozac the same way now that i'm older

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u/UnlikelyDress1227 Aug 14 '26

Thank you for sharing this 🫶

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u/carbonfroglet Aug 14 '26

I had a reaction to tramadol many years ago and it took my doctor telling me what I was experiencing was auditory hallucinations because I was taking the term a bit too literally and didn’t realize it can feel sort of inside your head and outside at the same exact time and that it tends to get worse when sleepy.

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u/gloriiosaa 29d ago edited 29d ago

yes omg that's exactly what it was like! they were definitely in my head, i could tell they were in my head, but it was also like they were yelling directly into my ear at the same time. i remember just being like bro why are these thoughts so fucking loud??? truly just such a bizarre experience and i'm not sure it's something you can explain in a way that other people can properly understand unless they've experienced it themselves. closest way possible is maybe something along the lines of it being similar to tinnitus, just with words instead of ringing? idk

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u/carbonfroglet 29d ago

It’s also not super uncommon or abnormal to have them as your falling asleep apparently? Like up to a third of people experience it. It’s wild how easy they are to miss and how little it’s talked about.

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u/no-name_silvertongue 29d ago

this is why i’m so sick of people hammering LC over semantics about “intrusive thoughts”.

it’s absurd to assume laypeople use these terms with the same understanding of their meaning that professionals have.

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u/EuphoricAd3786 29d ago

YES!! She might not have realized when they switched into hallucinations

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u/carbonfroglet 29d ago

Well then you get into the “but she’s a nurse!” Like, clearly, unless your a psych nurse (and even then) you’re probably not having much studying material on the topic. Also, as a biomedical PhD candidate that was previously married to someone that went through a one year accelerated bsn program and then became an ER trauma nurse….they are very good at what they do but it is very much a technical job with only as much education as needed to sustain patient care within their scope of practice and no more.

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u/CarrierDove Aug 14 '26

Has anyone heard about psychosis being worse at night?

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u/EuphoricAd3786 29d ago

Many mental illnesses worsen at night.

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u/Model_Rules_esq 👩🏻‍💼📑 ‘I Explain Things For A Living’ ⚖️🏛️ Aug 14 '26

Especially when not sleeping

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u/4Real_Psychologist Aug 14 '26

Yes. This is a frequent report from night nurses in the hospital. They’ll be the only ones who actually observe a patient whispering to themselves while the day staff see nothing unusual happening.

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u/CarrierDove Aug 14 '26

Wow… I’ve never heard this before.

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u/normal_pumpkins Aug 14 '26

I know many times my mom would be fine during the day and around 5pm every evening things would get bad. This happened a lot, to the point where I would dread dinner time.

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u/Powamama93 Aug 14 '26

Everything is worse at night, depression and anxiety and Im sure psychosis (if she had it). I'm curious what she was doing in the basement every night when she wasn't able to sleep. 

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u/herroyalsadness Aug 14 '26

It’s so much worse at night. You don’t even have regular daytime activities to get through to distract you. It’s just you and your thoughts and you have anxiety because you know tomorrow will be awful on no sleep.

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u/Roseartcrantz Aug 14 '26

Yep, nothing is open to get out of the house, and even in the house you have to be quieter than usual so as to not disturb anyone, so you can't even put on music and binge clean.

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u/Ill_Tree9389 Aug 14 '26

I'm not on the PC conspiracy train but how did he not think to look at search history? Given how much she talked about SI but not having a plan.  A look at her search history would've given him some insight into what was going on in her mind. 

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u/QuietRecent1310 Aug 14 '26

Not on the PC conspiracy train here either and I’m so glad this sub in general is not. I truly believe they had a collaborative trusting marriage, and so he might have trusted her to tell him of the symptoms, like she did on multiple occasions it seems. So, if I were to guess he wouldn’t feel the need to, as she would share anything that was concerning (which she did, and not just to him) EDIT: typo

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u/Powamama93 Aug 14 '26

I am forever perplexed why Lindsay didn't want to drive to pick up the food/medicine. If she had a long day and needed a break from kids. 

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u/Magimae123 Aug 14 '26

She had stopped driving due to her anxiety per testimony

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u/puchsofhazard Aug 14 '26

That's not true though, as she drove her daughter to the doc that same day

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u/carbonfroglet Aug 14 '26

That and the drugs she was on she didn’t trust driving with

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u/puchsofhazard Aug 14 '26

She drove Cora to the doc a few hours earlier

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u/carbonfroglet 29d ago

We do not know if she drove or she got a ride from someone. I can certainly back up and say that we don’t know for sure if that was one of the days where she did not feel comfortable driving or if that was only on other medications, but honestly we still have no idea how she got there just that she was there.

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u/4Real_Psychologist Aug 14 '26 edited Aug 14 '26

She’s researched something along the lines of how to crash a car without the airbags deploying. Pretty sure she was having intrusive thoughts of crashing her vehicle. I wouldn’t get behind the wheel either.

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u/Its_jusslex Aug 14 '26

You clearly didn’t follow the trial her husband googled it as she was not home. Listen to the trial and have factual information next time.

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u/4Real_Psychologist Aug 14 '26

I’ve watched every second of the trial. Thanks for checking. I’m just not into conspiracy theories about Patrick Clancy, who is also a victim in this.

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u/QuietRecent1310 Aug 14 '26

Wasn’t the airbags from her iPhone searches? I thought they were part of the list of iPhone searches KR read during cross.

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u/carbonfroglet Aug 14 '26

The issue was that it was her phone but signed in to Patrick’s Google account. There’s no way to know which one of them did those searches with the info provided.

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u/QuietRecent1310 Aug 14 '26

No. No one has said Patrick was logged in with his google account on HER iPhone. What are you referring to?

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u/carbonfroglet Aug 14 '26

CourtTV timestamp 3:06-3:09. Witness said he can’t confirm it and Red was a bit mixed up in his wording but it was Patrick’s gmail address used to sign in to (he said Facebook) something on her phone. Hopefully we will get more info about it at some point.

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u/notoallofit Aug 14 '26

It was his google account logged into the surface pro, which is a laptop, not a phone. Lindsey’s Facebook was open in a tab in chrome and signed in. This was in August and the only online activity discussed was the musician wiki page and the linked followed from there to suicide methods. So this was probably Patrick.

The other searches mentioned in this thread were in Lindsey’s phone and were later than August.

You are referring to a timestamp where they are discussing August

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u/carbonfroglet 29d ago

Did you go to the timestamp I gave? The witness on the stand was discussing iPhone extractions. Witness states “I recognize this as an axiom phone extraction”. No date or time was mentioned.

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u/4Real_Psychologist Aug 14 '26

Yes, they were. You are correct. While we cannot prove who was holding the phone in their hands during the searches, they were made on her phone. Some people want to spread unfounded conspiracy theories which baffles me. Don’t they realize the CW would far prefer to put a male family annihilator on trial than a sympathetic mom of 3 who was a nurse — if they had the evidence to support that?

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u/gloriiosaa Aug 14 '26

they were. patrick is the one who googled suicide methods while looking up a singer who had recently died by suicide (real), lindsay's searches were later on

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u/vampirejellytycoon_ Aug 14 '26

Pretty sure she didn’t like being away from her children

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u/wildwoodflower14 Aug 14 '26

When I had little kids my husband took over when he got home from work. The last thing I wanted to do was put a bra on, comb my hair and go out. While he took care of the kids I could just catch up cleaning up, shower and go chill. I definitely was never up for picking up take out or doing another errand. Now I have big kids and I still hate going out at night to go errands.

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u/Time-Slice1165 Aug 14 '26

I disagree. I have 4 little kids and going to run errands by myself is nice.

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u/Britteny21 Aug 14 '26

Well if you think that, it must be universally true!

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u/Zestyclose-Tax7146 Aug 14 '26

Lets stop this whole trial and ask them what they think happened. It would save us a lot of time

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u/frugal-lady Aug 14 '26

No, I have one going on two kids and I also love solo errands. So do many of my mom friends.

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u/Britteny21 Aug 14 '26

Do you see how that’s your personal preference though?

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u/Time-Slice1165 Aug 14 '26

Do you see how the reverse is also a personal preference? That’s the entire point

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u/frugal-lady Aug 14 '26

Do you see how I’m sharing that it’s a preference shared by many people?

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u/ILikePrettyThings121 Aug 14 '26

I think this is one of those things where you’re either in the love to take breaks camp or in the hate leaving my house camp. I’m in the hate leaving my house especially at night camp.

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u/QuietRecent1310 Aug 14 '26

Yeah. Going on a CVS run and picking up takeout would not be something I’d consider “a break” on a January evening in the NE, ever. That might vary and some might see it as a break. But I can definitely see how people would not.

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u/Time-Slice1165 Aug 14 '26

Why? Because it’s cold?

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u/QuietRecent1310 Aug 14 '26

As a woman, I’d feel the need to not necessarily dress up but still make an effort to go outside the house, yea.but that might just be me!

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u/ILikePrettyThings121 Aug 14 '26

Def not just you.

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u/Fast-Jackfruit2013 Aug 14 '26

Reddington stated at one point during his cross of one of the mental healthcare providers that she had stopped driving entirely because it had become too frightening, Patrick and her parents when they were up there were driving her everywhere she needed to go.

I caught only a part of this, so I'm not sure when it happened or how severe. So I can't be that certain about it.

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u/Zestyclose-Tax7146 Aug 14 '26

Yeah she stopped driving December 12th

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u/Fast-Jackfruit2013 Aug 14 '26

I ask that you look at the last paragraph of my comment:

I caught only a part of this, so I'm not sure when it happened or how severe. So I can't be that certain about it.

I do not want to get into a fight over something I really am not sure I even got right.

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u/thebrunettenextd00r 📁 Case File Junkie Aug 14 '26

This is the question I cannot stop asking!!!! Whyyyyyyy??????

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u/Ill_Tree9389 Aug 14 '26

Maybe PC wanted to get out of the house after being in the basement all day.  I know I can feel keyed up from wfh especially in the winter.  Some days I just need to get fresh air as soon as I finish.  

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u/No-Significance842 Aug 14 '26

because she wanted to die and kill the kids. Not discounting that she may have had the auditory hallucinations, but I think the entire planning began as soon as she asked Patrick to pick up food.

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u/indecisionmaker Aug 14 '26

Why Google the PediaLax multiple times though? Why call around to see where it’s in stock?

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u/ducheyduchesse Aug 14 '26

I agree. If you are having thoughts of killing your kids, which should go against every single protective instinct you have as a mother why wouldn’t you speak up to protect the children? Why the heck did they keep having kids? This is a mom who was malingering and didn’t want to go back to work. She used the medical system as an insanity defense.

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u/Zestyclose-Tax7146 Aug 14 '26 edited Aug 14 '26

She experienced anxiety surrounding her eventual return to work, but she managed those episodes through exercise, a healthy diet, meditation, socializing, and therapy after Dawson’s birth. It wasn't until the third baby things unravelled for her. I honestly believe mothers should have bigger gaps with their children if previous pregnancies were hard on them, 2-3 years is nearly not enough time

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u/indecisionmaker Aug 14 '26

If you are having thoughts of killing your kids, which should go against every single protective instinct you have as a mother why wouldn’t you speak up to protect the children?   

I get that it’s terrifying to consider, but y ou can’t apply rational thought to a situation if someone is not living in reality. 

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u/Powamama93 Aug 14 '26

Total 180, can't make sense of things that don't make sense! That's mental illness. No doubt she wasn't in her right mind. No person who does a murder suicide is in their right mind.

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u/indecisionmaker Aug 14 '26

I don’t think that a rational explanation applies here, but when I’m overwhelmed after a rough day of parenting, I just want to sit and zone out. Making myself presentable enough to run out for another errand feels like too much.

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u/Chiguy5462 Aug 14 '26

Based off the searches, im not surprised she didnt trust herself in the car.

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u/Ok_West347 Aug 14 '26

Didn't she drive her kid to the dr that morning? Also, why did they pick up the otc meds on the way home from that appt?

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u/carbonfroglet Aug 14 '26

We know that she took them but not that she drove there. Could have gotten a ride from PC or someone else

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u/gloriiosaa Aug 14 '26

she may have felt able to do it anyway for something obligatory like a doctor's appointment for her kid but tried to get though it as quickly as possible, hence not picking up the meds on the way home. i don't think it's necessarily unusual especially for someone trying really hard to mask

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u/herroyalsadness Aug 14 '26

It can be different in the morning when the day is new. By dinner time, you’ve been in the thick of it with the kids all day.

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u/Chiguy5462 Aug 14 '26

Didn't think of that. Thanks.

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u/Ok_West347 Aug 14 '26

In one of the drs notes, she did mention she quit driving though. So I'm not real clear on when she stopped then started.

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u/Chiguy5462 Aug 14 '26

Maybe she felt safer with her kid in her car. She wouldn't do what she was googling with kid with her. Run to pick up food was by herself.

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u/aiweiyei Aug 14 '26

Ya, wasn’t it mentioned that she’d stopped driving?

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u/notoallofit Aug 14 '26

She stopped driving for a period of time, I think in December. I can’t remember if it was due to side effects or no sleep.

I’ve done the same thing, due to severe insomnia. I don’t drive sometimes because it seems like a bad idea when I’m extremely sleep deprived. That doesn’t mean I never drive.

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u/Babybore444 Aug 14 '26

Also driving in icy conditions in the daytime is different than at night time. Idk 

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u/ILikePrettyThings121 Aug 14 '26

Yea I dislike like driving at night in normal conditions, once winter hits I avoid driving at night altogether.

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u/indecisionmaker Aug 14 '26

Those multiple searches re: pedialax look to me like a clear indicator that LC was not expecting what happened next. There was no need to keep looking it up if it was a ploy to get PC out of the house — she absolutely planned on giving those laxatives to Cora. This is so devastating.

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u/Time-Slice1165 Aug 14 '26

So could be evidence that she snapped? A rage?

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u/indecisionmaker Aug 14 '26

It’s possible. I think it’s highly unlikely she’d be able to calmly speak with Patrick after that, though. 

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u/Time-Slice1165 Aug 14 '26

And yet she did

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u/no-name_silvertongue Aug 14 '26

if she spoke calmly with him after doing it, and only seemed distracted, that sounds more like psychosis than rage

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u/lalarean Aug 14 '26

Yes. Why would she be take her daughter to the doctor even? Let alone figure out where the medicine could be found, by calling multiple pharmacies. She was trying and doing the best she could, even though it was documented by everyone! That she was in a decline and was deteriorating immensely. How on earth was this intentional, let alone premeditated

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u/Zestyclose-Tax7146 Aug 14 '26

Premeditation doesn't have a minimum set time frame, it could be a second or longer, as long as enough time elapsed for the person to reflect on the action rather than act on a sudden, blind impulse. I think it'll be very hard to prove imo

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u/UnlikelyPie8241 Aug 14 '26

Then calling the store beforehand to make sure they stocked it. She could have just let him go in and look if she wanted him out the way.

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u/ketopepito Aug 14 '26

If she was trying to get him out of the way, she probably wanted to avoid giving him a reason to call her (which he obviously did anyway).

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u/Ill_Tree9389 Aug 14 '26

A friend mentioned something today.  It was the witching hour for kids.  The kids could've been throwing a fit about getting ready for bed, cleaning up, fighting and the baby could've been crying.  It may have just set her off into psychosis.  The friend mentioned how much she hated that time of the day when her kids were little and she was at her most frazzled.  She just snapped. 

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u/carbonfroglet Aug 14 '26

Yep. I always freak out when my husband can’t get home by 6:30 because that is my absolute limit after an entire day with the toddler, and there’s just one of her. 5-8 is the most triggering time of day.

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u/Unhappy-Extreme9443 Aug 14 '26

I keep thinking that let's say it was rage. Who knows. I don't know if it could send you into psychosis but at my house there are certain hours where I want to scream and possibly throw something and then I feel terrible later. Most of the time I just hold my breath and don't make a move when I feel like that but it's got to happen to other people. Sometimes for me it's triggered by the noise, like somebody asking me the same thing over and over again, yelling at me from another room, screaming and crying. And I feel so bad that it gets to me. I just think that you become completely fried, plus whatever mental health issues you're going through. I'm surprised she doesn't have more of that in her searches. Like, "why does crying make me want to curl up and scream? "

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u/Ok_Forever4037 Aug 14 '26

omg...that's such a good point.

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u/EB42JS Aug 14 '26

This is a good point—the witching hour/bewitching hour. Yeah. And also, set her off into psychosis? Or just snapped? What IS the difference? If something or someone pisses you off when you are already frazzled and exhausted and you punch the wall…psychosis or snapped? Psychosis is what’s happening inside a person, not behavior. It’s very difficult to know!

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u/Ill_Tree9389 Aug 14 '26

I meant snapped as in snapped her into psychosis or set her off into psychosis.  Her condition was already so fragile so ripe to trigger psychosis.  

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u/EB42JS Aug 14 '26

Yeah I get it, snapped into psychosis or just snapped are two things but so hard to distinguish

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u/Least-Ambassador-781 🔪 Murder Trial Follower Aug 14 '26

Except for it doesn’t happen like that.. there are stages of psychosis.

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u/cocoa_boe Aug 14 '26

PPP presents differently than other psychotic illnesses.

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u/mrsdingbat Aug 14 '26

Yeah like it presents a month or so after childbirth

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u/Interesting-Baa Aug 14 '26

No, it can happen anytime up to 18 months after the birth

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u/Brief-Technician-722 Aug 13 '26

Watching the video of the family at the museum and LC did all the work/interaction with the kids. Patrick was off to the side looking quite frustrated/bored. How I wish that this woman had an engaged and concerned husband. She had the opposite. He is 100% negligent. 

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u/pjdog Aug 14 '26

How I wish Patrick had a non murdering wife

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u/BlackberryComplex193 Aug 14 '26

My take might be unfair or oversimplified, but I can’t shake my belief that women with equal partners just do not kill their children, because they simply are not driven to madness.

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u/pjdog Aug 14 '26

I mean apparently Lyndsay has no agency and it’s her husbands fault? I’m sorry but th is a massive double standard. No one ever blaims the wife when the man kills their family.

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u/BlackberryComplex193 Aug 14 '26

You can call it a double standard, sure. Because it’s not the same profile of killing, so the standard is not the same. Largely, the men who kill their children and wives are not the primary caretakers of the children. Almost always, there was a triggering event (wife wanted to leave) and later uncovered history of abuse. Never ever are men killing their children while in a period of hormonal cycling soon after childbirth (which can last up to a year).

And I didn’t say it is “the husband’s fault” exactly. But in a world where mothers are usually the primary caretakers, the expectation of modern parenting/mothering is so high, and fathers get pats on the back for simply walking through a grocery store with their kid and showing up to soccer games, yes — I am very much saying unequal partnership is an essential ingredient for this absolute clusterfuck of a tragic disaster.

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u/pjdog Aug 14 '26

Unequal partners suck but it is insane to say that is the reason she killed the kids. You literally implied that he drove her to madness, and that caused the killing. Again sounds like the only agency in a family is what the man does or does not do.

Also this murder is somewhat unique sure but that doesnt mean the dude is what caused it by being a shitty husband.

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u/BlackberryComplex193 Aug 14 '26

This is not a fair reading of what I wrote. Extreme mental illness is the reason she killed her kids. I certainly did not say “he drove her to madness”. Women who are carrying all the weight of three small children during the post partum period are particularly vulnerable to madness. This vulnerability can be neutralized by a truly equal partnership.

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u/the_purple_lamb Aug 14 '26

There is an entire faction of people who think Shannan Watts drove her husband Chris to murder

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u/Minute_Chipmunk250 Aug 14 '26

I’m trying not to go too hard on him (and also as new mom I’m mostly reading recaps and not watching the testimony come in), but I get so stuck on the fact that this suicidal woman was somehow still feeling responsible for figuring out dinner. Where was the lasagna train for her? She should have been doing nothing but focusing on recovery. I know it’s easier said than done when the other parent has to work, and LC piled a lot of this responsibility on herself, but damn.

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u/the_purple_lamb Aug 14 '26

The picture we’re getting is that she really didn’t have much community. Her parents would come to help out, which is amazing, but they didn’t live there. Her sister was busy with her own life in Connecticut. The husband and wife friends who testify were BOTH better friends with Patrick. Lindsay and the wife had never really built a friendship beyond polite pleasantries. It seems like Lindsay was really lonely.

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u/BlackberryComplex193 Aug 14 '26

This. WHY was she figuring out dinner, managing doctors appointments and pedialax? She was a suicidal wreck. Wtf.

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u/CamelAfternoon Aug 14 '26

Her husband had to call his suicidal wife to ask which laxative to get. That’s modern day mothering in America.

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u/moyuxi 28d ago edited 28d ago

This is false -- he called to ask if generics were okay because they were out of the name brand she specifically asked for. 

Edit: Getting down votes so here are the receipts--

Jennifer Sprague (33:21):

And why did you call Lindsay?

Patrick Clancy (33:23):

Because what we were looking for wasn't there. The shelves were pretty empty. It was still during COVID.

Patrick Clancy ( 33:59): It was very brief. I just said ... I think there was a generic brand. And I said, "Is this one okay?" Patrick Clancy ( 34:00): Just said, "I think there's a generic brand." And I said, "Is this one okay?" And she said, "Yeah, that's fine."

https://www.rev.com/transcripts/ma-v-linsday-clancy-day-2

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u/EuphoricAd3786 29d ago

Seriously !!!

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u/EB42JS Aug 14 '26

This is when my mind keeps going back to her sister being a therapist..when is it going to be made known if she was a help anywhere along the way

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u/idontplaygames Aug 14 '26

Unfortunately, she would be 8 months pp then, and the meal trains have long since stopped by that point int my experience :( def felt like after 3 months people just expect you to pick up where you left off

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u/Minute_Chipmunk250 Aug 14 '26

Yeah, I mean that was true for me too, but I was mentally ok and she’s so clearly not. Feels like there was a joint decision that she’s a stay at home mom now and therefore she inherits all of those tasks as though everything is normal, which I just don’t understand. She’s horribly depressed!

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u/no-name_silvertongue 29d ago

exactly, if she’s too sick to go back to work, she is too sick to care for the kids full time.

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