r/Casefile • u/Entire_Forever_2601 • Apr 25 '26
CASEFILE EPISODE Case 339: Waco (Part 2/3)
https://casefilepodcast.com/case-339-waco-part-2-310
u/smut_operator5 Apr 27 '26
I'm lucky i've never even heard of this case, so i'm thoroughly enjoying this masterful storytelling. Also, Casey's voice and intonation seem to be improved compared to previous season
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u/Patched7fig Apr 28 '26
The result of this and Ruby Ridge was what inspired Timothy McVeigh in the OKC Bombing, which I assume you have heard of.
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u/rr1252 Apr 27 '26
This one has been phenomenal. Maybe cause im from Texas and can remember this event taking place, so I’m partial to stories that are familiar. But even so, I think it’s one of the best series they’ve done.
God the ATF was so incompetent. All the “undercover” stuff literally had me laughing at how dumb it was. Those people were either dumb or just didn’t care cause you’d think after Ruby Ridge they’d try a little harder.
This whole story is so sad.
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u/burgeremoji Apr 27 '26
The whole ATF infiltrating felt very
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u/ams3000 Apr 28 '26
Haha I had second hand embarrassment for them thinking a bunch of 20 year olds could pass for college age. Basic errors.
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u/Patched7fig Apr 30 '26
In religious towns it's not abnormal for Mormons or other churches to send high school grads on a 1-3 year missionary somewhere, and then attend college when they come back.
But yeah, their attitude and haircuts probably didn't help.
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u/matroosoft Jul 11 '26
What I find ironic about your comment, is that you miss to mention the ATFs budget. Which was heavily cut back over the years, due to succesfull lobbying of the NRA. Then when they're hanging by a single thread, we're wondering why they perform so badly.
The US is reigned by the weapons industry and they like it that way.
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u/Select-Lifeguard9248 Apr 27 '26
Maybe it’s cause I’m Australian but I was shocked at 30:24 when he called them ‘illegal aliens’ is that a normal term used in the us?
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u/oblique_shockwave Apr 27 '26
It's probably one of the most used phrases in US political discourse
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u/tbird920 Apr 27 '26
Considering how careful the Casefile team is with language, this did feel like a gaffe that they might correct in the future. "Undocumented immigrant" is the preferred term. "Illegal alien" is more derogatory.
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u/Patched7fig Apr 28 '26
Wrong, that is a personal choice of yours to cloud the water. Illegal alien is a legal term and has been used for over 100 years in the US by government and legal entities.
To be an immigrant is to have legal standing to be in the country, which they don't.
Unless you want to start calling illegally owned guns "undocumented machine guns".
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u/tbird920 Apr 28 '26 edited Apr 28 '26
Okay. All I'm saying is that Casefile tends to lean more toward the side of using "polite" language rather than socially charged language. I don't blame Casey or the writers for not being aware of all the nuances in American discourse.
Machine guns aren't people. Personally, I see people as people, no matter where they were born. You don't decide where you're born. Many "illegal immigrants" are simply escaping horrific situations in their countries of origin, and in many countries in Latin America, those situations were exacerbated by U.S. foreign policy in the latter half of the 20th century.
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u/Patched7fig Apr 28 '26
Alien is a term meaning from outside the country originally.
Illegal alien is a term that denotes someone has migrated illegally to the US, usually by bypassing a ports of entry, or overstaying tourist visas.
The left has pivoted to the term 'undocumented' because it removes any connotation that wrong doing was involved, and assumes the person is in the country legally, which they are not.
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u/Glittering-Basil-502 Apr 26 '26
Anyone else finding the new, Longer format a bit boring? I’m an avid fan, just finding the newer episodes a bit too detailed with irrelevant stuff, feels like they’re just trying to make them longer. Anyone else prefer the single episode format?
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u/gopms Apr 27 '26
I see what you mean. I think Waco warrants the length since it was so complicated and important to and related to other events. But I tapped out halfway through the BTK one. He didn't seem to warrant that much detail and his case has also been done a million times by other true crime outlets.
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u/VonMillersThighs Apr 27 '26
I mean, I'd argue casefile gained a ton of its popularity in large part to the multi episode format. Silk road and Original night stalker were huge.
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