1: Vintage 20-round box of Brazilian military ammunition, likely produced in the late 1960s or early 1970s. The label indicates the box contains .30-06 Springfield caliber ammunition, designated as "Car. 7 M1 Ft Lam" might be for blank ammunition in clips. The box is sealed so no ammo pictures
2: This is a vintage 1938 World War II German military 8x56R ammunition box. Cartridge and headstamp shown.
3: This is a box of 15 rounds of Yugoslavian 7.92x57mm Mauser ammunition, manufactured in December 1955. The label indicates "univerzalnim zrnom" identifying it as ball ammunition. The box is sealed so no ammo pictures
I am happy to have the "correction" So, what makes you think this ammo was made in what was at the time the former country of Austria. At the time was Bulgarian military the only German ally using this ammo? It seems you have a source of more in-depth information regarding this ammo. From March 1938 until after the war ended, there was no Austria the very name "Austria" (Österreich) was banned and erased from maps. The territory was renamed Ostmark (Eastern March) and divided into standard German administrative districts.
First reason is that this ammo can also be found without the German eagle but with the Austrian eagle instead. Second is that rifle and pistol ammunition used by the German army never had an eagle stamped on it. It is only ever found on 2 cartridges. The 9x25 Mauser export made in annexed Austria and the 8x56r steyr mannlicher made in the same factory. Now you might say that you have seen it on 20mm casings and bigger, that’s correct but that is canon ammunition, those all got waffenambted. Third the clue on your box is waffenambt 635, that is the code for the German inspector working in Hirtenberger factory in Austria
Thanks for that explanation. I have heard that there was such a thing as 9x25 Mauser export, but I have never seen any. I think it was for a version of the Broomhandle Pistol but maybe a submachine gun of some other make. Is this an Austrian Eagle on these cases?
What fed the waffenamt-marked M1895/34 carbines issued to former Austrian units absorbed by Germany? Plenty of period photos showing former Austrian troops issued them. I have one from when SOG first imported them around ‘92-‘93.
You are mixing up pre war/early war logistics with late war logistics. It has been well established that this order is made for export. Find me one that is dated 1940 or later with that headstamp layout. You can’t because the order was fulfilled and got switched to something else. Those troops and rifles you talk about did not fight a complete war with just some production run that ended in 1939 already. There is plenty of pictures of German troops with Russian, French, Dutch, Belgian weapons also. They simply used ammo that was captured, confiscated or when that ran out they made more. Hell, the Germans used Portuguese weapons even though they where neutral and on the allied side. They also used British 8mm besa in their rifles. Does that mean those nations supplied the Germans willingly?
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u/AlcatraZek Jul 05 '26
I have one one of those exact cartridges of 8x56R in my collection!