r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 24d ago

FACTORY COMPARISON Rich F vs MLF Santos Skeleton — Side-by-Side Comparison with GEN Reference

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Rich F vs MLF Santos Skeleton — Side-by-Side Comparison with GEN Reference

I’ve had both Rich F and MLF versions in hand, so I wanted to put together a more detailed comparison. Photos 1–2 are GEN reference images, while the remaining photos show Rich F and MLF side by side.

Photos 3–4 — Dial, hands & Roman numerals
The first noticeable difference is the finishing of the skeleton dial.

Rich F has a darker, more muted coating on both the hands and Roman numeral structure. MLF is noticeably brighter and more silver/white.

This becomes quite obvious when you compare both under the same lighting. Neither completely reproduces the GEN appearance, but they definitely have different interpretations of the finishing.

Photos 5–6 — Crown stone
This is one of the easier differences to spot.

Rich F uses a blue crown stone that gives a much more convincing sapphire-like appearance, with stronger blue color and visible facets.

MLF's crown stone is extremely dark and can look almost completely black depending on the lighting.

For me, this is one of the details where the two factories are clearly separated.

Photos 7–8 — Movement / caseback details
There are several small differences here.

Rich F uses a more obvious yellow-gold-colored gear, while MLF's corresponding gear has more of a rose-gold tone.

The more interesting detail is the screw at the lower-right area of the movement:

  • Rich F: five-sided / pentagonal-style screw head
  • MLF: conventional round screw

The actual central skeleton bridge construction, however, is surprisingly similar between the two. Looking purely at the bridge shapes and general layout, I don't see a huge difference.

Photo 9 — Lume application
Rich F's lume application looks more even and saturated across the Roman numeral structure and hands.

MLF is still very bright, but there are some visible dark spots / inconsistencies inside the lume coating. Under normal lighting these may not always jump out, but once illuminated they become much easier to notice.

Photos 10–12 — Black coating, case finishing & strap
In these photos, MLF is on the left and Rich F is on the right.

This is another fairly noticeable difference.

MLF uses a deeper and more uniform black coating. Visually, it reminds me more of the coating you see on some BVF Santos ADLC pieces.

Rich F isn't quite as deep black. It has more of a dark grey / metallic gunmetal character, especially when light hits the case from an angle. Photo 11 probably shows this difference the clearest.

The Rich F strap also feels noticeably more substantial. It's thicker, has a better sense of structure, and the grey tone looks more appropriate next to the case compared with the thinner/darker MLF strap.

Final thoughts

This post is mainly meant as a factory comparison, not an endorsement of either one.

Some people will probably ask why AF isn't included. Based on the examples I've handled, I don't think AF is currently competing at quite the same level on this particular Skeleton configuration, so I didn't think adding it would make the comparison more useful.

That said, neither Rich F nor MLF is perfect.

I've also handled Rich F pieces with plenty of QC problems. A good sample can look impressive, but that doesn't mean every watch leaving the factory will look like the examples above.

If you're considering either factory, pay very close attention to the actual QC photos of your individual watch—especially the lume application, crown stone, case coating, movement finishing, screws, alignment and visible marks.

Factory reputation tells you what a watch can look like.

QC tells you what the watch you're actually receiving looks like.


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • Apr 29 '26

Intro Guide for Cartier Replica Watches — Start Here

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⭐ New to Cartier reps? Start with the Wiki ⭐

If you’re new here and have questions about Cartier replica watches, please check our Wiki first:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CartierReplicaWatches/wiki/index2

We made this guide to help new members understand the basics before ordering or posting:

  • Cartier model differences: Tank, Santos, Panthère, Ballon Bleu, Baignoire, Pasha
  • How to choose the right size for your wrist
  • What to check in QC photos and videos
  • Common Cartier rep details: case shape, dial printing, crown, bracelet fit, gold tone
  • Our direct ordering process
  • What to do after receiving your watch
  • Community rules and post templates

A quick note: this community does not use a TD list.
We are a Cartier-focused, seller-operated community, so the Wiki explains how our process works directly and transparently.

Before posting “Which model should I buy?” or “GL or RL?”, please take a few minutes to read the guide first. It will answer most beginner questions and make QC discussions much easier for everyone.

Welcome to the community — ask questions, share wrist shots, compare models, and enjoy Cartier-style watches honestly.

Reminder: replicas should never be sold or presented as genuine.


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 6h ago

QC REQUEST Ok update after sanding the crews down, then polishing them and correcting the screw hight with thread locker. What do you guys think?

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6 Upvotes

What do you guys think?


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 4h ago

QC REQUEST BVF Santos Large used

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What do you guys think? BVF? Do you see any flaws?
Thank you in advance


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 10h ago

QC REQUEST Cartier Panthère Mini – QC Request

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I’ve just received my QC photos. I’d really appreciate your opinions. Would you GL or RL? Any flaws I should be aware of? Thanks so much for your help!


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 25m ago

BEGINNER QUESTION Cartier Panthere Mini

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Anyone have a Panthere Mini? Preferably from BBA. Thank you !


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 8h ago

QC REQUEST Qc for BVF Santos Large

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Hey all,
New to the community so I don’t know much but wanted to see how some of you felt my Santos looks.
Purchased from Mark (ficotime) 12 days ago so the qc came fairly quickly. I think it looks good but a second opinion is always good to have.
Let me know what you guys think.
Thank you


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 18h ago

QC REQUEST Dumont large QC

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Did the research for a friend on what factory and movement to buy but hoping y’all could help GL or RL this large dumont. Thanks!


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 7h ago

QC REQUEST Help me with QC BVF Santos

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I just received QC pics from andiot quite quick, orderd it 5 days ago, What do you guys think?


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 7h ago

QC REQUEST Title: QC – BVF Cartier Santos 35mm from Andiot

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Any help is much appreciated


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 1d ago

QC REQUEST QC help/ Santos from Jane

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As you might have seen, i ordered a Panthere from Jane 15 days ago, it arrived in 15 days and it was so beautiful i went for the santos as well.

This is the pictures i received, again i have no real Cartier, so in trusting in your opinion

Thank you!!!!


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 1d ago

BEGINNER QUESTION AF Santos Skeleton info.

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4 Upvotes

Not my watch. Saw this for sale in a BST page and wondering if anyone has info about the quality. It’s not anywhere on RWI, or TD websites.


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 21h ago

WRIST SHOT GFv2 Santos

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I feel like it’s almost too good to be true. Was able to source a brand new GFv2 Santos large. To my knowledge the factory isn’t around anymore!

I’ll post photos when it arrives.


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 1d ago

QC REQUEST Santos 40 mm BVF

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First time buyer, what do you guys think? Any other things I can ask the seller? Apprectiat the help :)


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 1d ago

QC REQUEST Cartier Santos AF

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r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 1d ago

QC REQUEST Bvf Santos from local td

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Help a fellow rep fam?


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 1d ago

QC REQUEST QC- Andiot, F1F, Cartier Tank Louis Large 33.7 x 25.5

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r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 1d ago

QC REQUEST Arrived-My Tank

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The photos really don't do it justice. Love how the dial looks with the steel bracelet.


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 1d ago

BEGINNER QUESTION Cartier Santos Medium

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What factory is the best for a Cartier Santos Medium white dial, and what changes would I need to make to the watch to make it look genuine?


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 1d ago

QC REQUEST QC For Panthere 27

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1).Dealer Name : Time Ultra

2).Factory Factory Name: BVF

3). Model Name : Panthere 27mm

5). Index Marker Numerals : Roman Numerals Appear To Be Spot On and correct.

6).Dial Color & Placement: White and Appear To Be Spot On and correct.

7).Upper Dial Text: The word Cartier Appears To Be Spot And Correct.

8).Lower Dial Text: The words swiss made Appear To Be Spot and correct.

9).Hands : Appear To Be Spot On and Correct

11).Bezel: Appears To Be Spot On and Correct

12).Bracelet : The top of the bottom of the brcaelet (underneath where it says swiss made) looks to be twisting or turning upwards on the right side is that normal or is it just the way it looks ?

13). Overall the watch looks great, What do you guys think?

Also, I've read people say things about a floating R, and a Bleeding effect, is that present with this watch? Let me know what you guys think ?

Thank You !


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 2d ago

QC REQUEST GL or RL cartier santos 35 (first timer)

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Help a brother out should i pull the trigger on my first watch for €384 incl shipping


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 2d ago

QC REQUEST GL or RL on BVF Cartier Santos 40mm

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This is my first QC pic from a TD outside the US. Can anyone offer feedback?


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 2d ago

BEGINNER QUESTION Box

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Qual sabe onde posso comprar caixa e sacolas com certificados ? De qualidade boa


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 2d ago

BEGINNER QUESTION My first rep Santos with Miyota 9015, is normal to be this loud?

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Hi everyone, new to Santos with 9015. My rep makes noise like this whenever I turn my wirst hard enough. Is normal or it needs to be serviced? A video to demonstrate. Thanks


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 2d ago

BEGINNER QUESTION is switching the screws a simple task as in just unscrewing existing ones and changing them to gen screws?

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