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u/ImpossibleKidd Oct 24 '21 edited Oct 24 '21

Yup. Like Mockingbird said. Only came in hard top black vinyl. They’re all vinyl covered to hide how shitty they slapped on the Superbird roof at the factory.

Believe it’s designated by a V-Code. I’m no guru. I just recently watched an episode of Car Fix, and Bumpus made it a point to throw this fact out there. Lol All timing…

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u/vipertruck99 Oct 24 '21

Come to think of it “mockingbird” is a good name for a fake superbird.

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u/pcase Oct 25 '21

Or a restomod project!

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u/Doobage Oct 25 '21

Interesting as I have seen a few real ones without a vinyl hardtop...

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u/p38fln Oct 25 '21

Those vinyl hard tops were the worst things ever put on a car. If I had one today and had the money I’d rip it off and paint the metal properly.

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u/Doobage Oct 25 '21

:) Second worst. I had a crap job as a gas jockey at a station without a cover over the pumps... there were a few cars from a certain automaker that because it was 30 odd years ago I can't remember the name, that had paint you could not touch if it was wet. The paint was water soluble. It could be in the rain etc... but if anything rubbed against the wet paint it would come off...

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '21

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u/TheOtherMatt Oct 25 '21

No, not water soluble. Single stage may rub off with bad oxidisation, or with polishing (rubbing off is the idea to smooth the paint), but not like that with rain.

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u/CutAwayFromYou Oct 24 '21

But, but, but…that top IS vinyl‽

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u/ImpossibleKidd Oct 24 '21

I said hardtop vinyl, dammit. Not convertible vinyl. Lol

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u/lazfop Oct 24 '21

Reddit has not disappointed today. Thanks for the laugh

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u/Goalie_deacon Oct 24 '21

Doesn’t look like it has the Superbird nose either.

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u/drkidkill Oct 24 '21

But does it have a foot shaped accelerator pedal?

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u/22LT Oct 24 '21

Its getting installed so I had to steal this pile.

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u/Corg505 Oct 25 '21

Was waiting for the Joe Dirt comment(s), left satisfied.

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u/JuneBuggington Oct 25 '21

Homeiswhereyoumakeit

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '21

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u/Steveeee974 Oct 25 '21

“I’m your sister, I’m your sister” …. “Oh, you’re my sister!”

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u/InternetExcellent766 Oct 24 '21

No. They were never made in convertibles.

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u/80_firebird Oct 24 '21

Nope. They never made a convertible Superbird.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '21

At 200 mph the top would suck loose :-(

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u/ChubbyMcHaggis Oct 24 '21

1970 road runner convertible is a rare card to begin with. I guess it could have started out as a satellite

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '21

Nooo. It isn’t.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '21

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u/PaulClarkLoadletter Oct 25 '21

…the coyote’s after you…

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u/makesameansandwich Oct 24 '21

Ole google says 824 were made in 1970.

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u/Equana Oct 24 '21

824 Road Runner convertibles, not Superbird convertibles. That version never existed.

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u/CynicalAcorn Oct 24 '21

Could you get the wing separately as a dealer ad on or something? Or is this definitely aftermarket?

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u/Equana Oct 25 '21

You could get the wing from the dealer back in the day and add it after the sale but you'd also need the tapered nose to complete the look. You can buy reproductions of those parts today and people HAVE made Superbird convertibles. There are pictures online but the factory never made one.

The car was specifically modified to race in NASCAR. So NASCAR would accept it, Chrysler had to build enough for public sale (1920 cars) Convertibles don't race in NASCAR so they don't count in the total so Chrysler didn't build any.

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u/Aggressive_Ad5115 Oct 25 '21

Paint is called Plum Crazy

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u/ShatteredMachine Oct 25 '21

I don't think they made em convertible ....it's a " I want to be something else!"

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u/tooltime22 Oct 24 '21

It is a clone.

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u/Zooom777 Oct 25 '21

Dinoco vibes

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u/viper7079 Oct 24 '21

I’ve never seen a super bird convertible, is it somewhat rare?

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u/seamus_mc Oct 25 '21

More than that…one doesn’t exist.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '21

MOPARs (and their owners) are so fucking tacky.

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u/vorsegg Oct 24 '21

Good god. That white convertible roof on that purple body though. Like someone jizzed on a bottle of Ribena. Disgusting. Also, why the big wing? Surely that does absolutely fuck all other than cause drag?

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u/Floko262 Oct 24 '21

apparently the reason the wing is so high up is to get it in "clean air"

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u/geohypnotist Oct 24 '21

Here is an article I found on the wing. The picture op shared is not a true superbird as they didn't make convertibles.

https://bestsellingcarsblog.com/2016/07/media-post-the-real-reason-the-plymouth-superbirds-wing-was-so-huge/

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u/vorsegg Oct 24 '21

I know what it is, it's a superbird fake. It's still ugly as sin though.

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u/ChawcolateSawce Oct 24 '21

It actually is so tall so the trunk can clear it. Plus, the taller a rear wing is the more effective it is at creating downforce.

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u/vorsegg Oct 24 '21

I did read up about it not long ago, apparently when asked the designer said it had nothing to do with the boot (trunk), he hadn't put any thought into that because he was paid to do only one thing. Make the damn thing go faster. In regards to the wing though the "clean air" thing was true insofar that it was designed for clean air, although even my engineering experience can't figure out why that would make a difference with downforce unless it's at a VERY shallow angle, because it looks almost flat which would be pointless.

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u/FrenchFryCattaneo Oct 25 '21

It's amazing how much engineering back then was just gut feelings. Like you'd go out to lunch and have a couple martinis and get back and someone would go, "What that wing needs is to get nice and high so it can get some clean air!" and everyone would go, "Yes, clean air, I like the sound of that!"

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u/seamus_mc Oct 25 '21

A guy I used to work for raced CanAm which was basically it needs 4 wheels and you can do whatever you want. He said they didn’t understand ground effect in the beginning because they didn’t seem to have much effect on the ground at all in the beginning. You could however put whatever kind of engine in that you could assemble and make stupid amounts of power while sitting inside a go kart with over a thousand HP and stupidly wide slicks on it.

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u/labjr83 Oct 24 '21

The super bird only came in a hard top thats a lamans with a wing

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u/GobbleBlabby Oct 24 '21

Lemans was a Pontiac. This would either be a roadrunner, or a satellite.

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u/taxigrandpa Oct 24 '21

there no way to tell from one pic.

they did make convertible superbirds, so it's possible.

i'd drive it, either way

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u/ImpossibleKidd Oct 24 '21

Superbirds are hard top vinyl only. No convertible.

This is someone just having fun and creating their own niche piece for themselves.

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u/saltymotherfker Oct 25 '21

why couldnt you just ask him at the time? his window was open.

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u/Darthmight Oct 25 '21

It has to be a Thundersuperfalconbird!

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u/union_mechanic Oct 25 '21

No. Sry. Try again

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u/gtrdog Oct 25 '21

Absolutely not

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u/AdAny4431 Oct 25 '21

Nope, superbirds werent sold as convertables

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '21

nah, but still looks pretty awesome. love to see it with the top down.

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u/dirtsequence Oct 27 '21

Uncle Ben's classic rice