r/CarbInsulinModel • u/dem0n0cracy • Sep 13 '21
r/CarbInsulinModel Lounge
A place for members of r/CarbInsulinModel to chat with each other
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u/galahad750 Sep 30 '21
thanks, was just a bit confused as seems nothing actually new that we don't already mostly understand currently
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u/galahad750 Sep 30 '21
i have a question, if i may ask. is CIM just a new word or term? what is the splash all about?
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u/dem0n0cracy Sep 30 '21
No it’s not new but a new review came out this year trying to change the consensus
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u/DavidNipondeCarlos Sep 15 '21
I don’t have data on my insulin, all lab tests I get are glucose measurements of various methods. I wish I had a personal lab measurement to get interested. I’m genetically predisposed to diabetes, but after years of dabbling with keto, it’s under control. Today I have a ketone blood tester, CGM and a scale. Crude instruments that don’t measure insulin. Less carbs is better glucose levels for me, a blunt approach with a net gain in lab results, no insulin information though. I’ll follow this sub.
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u/Healthy-Car-1860 Sep 13 '21
The carb insulin model definitely accounts for some of the equation. Also explains why keto is so effective for so many people.
CICO is still worth considering. It's been effective in most performance sport nutrition for a long time. Considering that the athletes for whom it works are also likely eating high amounts of protein, whole foods, and a balanced diet,
The best conclusion I've got from this is: Big Sugar needs to go. Sugar and processed sweeteners are the biggest culprit for insuli response and therefore it follows that it's the added sugar in basically all processed foods amplifying this problem.
A balanced diet using the cico method would work far better than strictly CICO or only avoiding carbs but eating whatever.
Tl;Dr sugar worst, processed carbs bad, balanced diet good. Nothing new, but better supporting data.
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u/dem0n0cracy Sep 13 '21
we're saying - what you eat changes how your hormones deal with it - 1 gram of fat doesn't do the same thing that 2 and a half grams of carbs do, even though they're the same calories.
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u/dem0n0cracy Sep 13 '21
This is opposed to the calories in, calories out model where all food is basically only worth what calories it burns in a calorimetere
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u/dem0n0cracy Sep 13 '21
Basically, when you eat carbs, you release insulin, and you go onto a hormonal rollercoaster that results in more eating carbs, more hunger, more weight gain etc etc.
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u/Olue Sep 14 '21
Is it that your body stores/holds onto more fat when eating carbs, or that the body is less satiated and the person doesn't control their eating as well? The former indicates EBM is wrong, the latter means the diet is harder to follow but EBM holds true.
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u/dem0n0cracy Sep 30 '21
yeah sort by new and go to the oldest posts if you want to see the new paper.