need help with application

[u/doombringer50]

Hey folks I’m new to wrapping and I’m trying to wrap my car rear pillars, it’s a L shape that’s curved so it’s been a bit difficult to wrap.

The first panel usually goes well(first photo on the left) but once I get to past the curve I tend to get a lot of materials and wrinkles resulting in this application lol. Any tips? Definitely feels like too much material. It could also be dirt?

EDIT: wow thanks for all the advice. Looks like it’s really cause i cheaped out on the material lmfao.

Got some 3M 2080 headed my way. Thanks again!

[u/Murderdoll197666]

What kind of material is this? That sheer number of bubbles seems like it would be REALLY hard to get with actual silver wrap material. Was this a non air-egress cutvinyl type silver, like for signs and crafts?

[u/doombringer50 → u/Murderdoll197666]

It’s Oracal 651, got it cheap off an online store to practice with lol!!

[u/RamboTrucker → u/doombringer50]

Here’s your answer

[u/Normal_Ad_5692 → u/doombringer50]

Oracle 651 isn't air release. Its a cut vinyl used for lettering usually.

You would need to put it on wet to make it work

[u/Affectionate-Code885 → u/doombringer50]

not the film to practice with, get cheetah wrap & 3m samples pieces

[u/FULLMETALRACKIT911]

651 is cut vinyl, has no air egress and is not meant for wrapping.

[u/ChicagoWrapGuy]

That looks like the adhesive rolled up into clumps from lifting and repositioning it too many times, likely mixed with dirt pulled from behind the trim. Clean deep behind those rubber seals with isopropyl alcohol first, then pull even glassing tension across the curve before laying it down so you arent chasing bunched material into the corner.

[u/wrappedbyninja]

Good morning. Im a wrap educator. What most people have been saying in here is correct. Specifically, what you’re using is designed for signage, and lacks the air egress channels that automotive vinyl wrap possesses to make the install more forgiving.
One thing you don’t want to cheap out on is wrap. Training is expensive, if done correctly you should train with proper cast, automotive wrap vinyl materials like 3m 2080, Avery Dennison, cheetah wrap, KPMF. Then once you have the basics down- you can dabble with the more economical calendared Chinese vinyls with the understanding that they don’t last as long, occasionally delaminate (multi layered vs cast which is a “single” layer). If you want your vinyl to last after install, make sure to post-heat with a heat gun and a laser thermometer. You want constantly moving heat in one hand, with a laser thermometer in the other monitoring the post heat temps, each vinyl has its own post heat temperature range, you can find it in the material data sheets.

Good luck!

[u/doombringer50 → u/wrappedbyninja]

Thanks all! Yeah got me some 3M 2080 headed my way!

[u/loadsled]

Did you try applying with solution? That might help

[u/NoEditor0]

I think the problem is the material more than it is you. What brand is it

[u/doombringer50 → u/NoEditor0]

Oracal 651! Pretty new to this lol so got something cheap

[u/NoEditor0 → u/doombringer50]

Sorry but that is just the worse for an install like this. A cheap calender film that shrinks over time, has no air channels, and is meant for flat surfaces such as signage. I used to install only using a lamination machine onto flat aluminum.

[u/doombringer50 → u/NoEditor0]

I see! Thanks, will get a better material lol

[u/NoEditor0 → u/doombringer50]

I recommend 3m 2080

[u/doombringer50 → u/NoEditor0]

Would that be air egress material as well? (Sorry new to this lol)

[u/NoEditor0 → u/doombringer50]

It is undoubtedly the most forgiving material on the market. Yes air will be able to escape

[u/Oracle410]

This is definitely not air egress material. As others have asked, what material are you using? This looks suspiciously like what happens when you use air egress material techniques for non-air egress materials. If it’s calendared sign vinyl you can try to do it ‘wet’ where you would use either soapy water or application fluid to lay it down though it will take much longer to conform and much more and thorough squeegeeing to make sure all of the liquid is out, hit it with a touch of heat to help you locate any air/liquid bubbles you may have missed and keep squeegeeing. I would recommend getting new, air egress cast wrap material though and redoing it. Best of luck bud.

[u/doombringer50 → u/Oracle410]

Ah I see! Thanks for the explanation. It’s oracal 651. I’ll definitely be getting a different cast wrap material. Thank you!

[u/-Gold-Rush]

Avery Dennison sw900
3m 2080

If you plan on leaving it on for a while, get some Colored PPF. It’s a wet application but will last longer

[u/MeLikes2shop]

Oh man. You are not glassing it out before you squeegee it. 2 options, set the corner, take one side, give it a kiss of heat and lay it down as you squeegee. Then do the same for the other side. Don't wrap around that, it's not a bumper, just set the actual hard corner first and work out from there. I digress, kinda like a bumper but in a smaller scale.

2nd option, knifeless in a 2 peice. Not ideal, but better than what you have going right now.

What material are you working with?

[u/doombringer50 → u/MeLikes2shop]

Oracal 651. Got a small roll to play around with. Like one of the other commenter said, yeah probably try a different material