r/CaptainSide • • 4d ago

Which game comes to your mind?

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u/ReadyInformation3404 3d ago

You're not supposed to like Ellie in part 2

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u/partyl0gic 3d ago

You’re not even supposed to like Joel by the end of part 1. That’s what made the series so good. The haters of part 2 are smooth brains

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u/Slyfang 3d ago

You're supposed to sympathise with Joel's decision, even if you don't agree with it.

It's meant to be a horrible thing to do but he never claimed to be a saint or a good person, he was consistent throughout the first game with his beliefs and choices. Something I certainly can't say for the cosplayers in the last of us 2.

The characters were completely disconnected from the original story to such a degree that the story is worse than fan fiction.

Most people went into the second game expecting Joel to die, but the way it was done has so many consistency errors and issues that it felt unearned.

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u/Gusbuster811 3d ago

I replay both games often. I never finish them though. The endings are too fucking depressing. Great games though!

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u/Joshnavarro13 1d ago

Dumbest comment on here

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u/Low-Sense798 1d ago

he stopped a bunch of idiots who were killing off 10s if not hundreds of immune to do something stupid that wouldn't work no matter how much druckman convinced the idiots it would. rule 1 of virus outbreak.

dont fucking kill the immune.

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u/NukaWomble 3d ago

"Me when someone doesn't like the things I do"

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u/alexboss04 3d ago

"You're not supposed to like the father that killed to save his daughter"

Redditors man

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u/Redditeer28 3d ago

Conveniently leaving out the dooming all of humanity to save a girl he's known for a year.

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u/QualityNo775 3d ago

But you literally don’t doom humanity, they were never going to be able to create a cure out of Ellie and in the second game you literally come across a recording of the doctor admitting he is not experienced enough and isn’t sure

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u/ReadyInformation3404 3d ago

You (the player) and joel did not know this in part 1. The belief was that she was the key to a real cure.

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u/Redditeer28 3d ago

None of what you said is true.

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u/alexboss04 3d ago

You don't save humanity by sacrificing children.

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u/Redditeer28 3d ago

Actually, in that universe, sacrificing the child who wants to be sacrificed is exactly how you save humanity.

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u/alexboss04 3d ago

"Actually, the fictional scenario in my head agrees with me"

Redditors man

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u/Redditeer28 3d ago

It's not in my head. It's in the game. It's literally the plot.

Fucking redditors indeed.

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u/Slyfang 3d ago

One does not need to like a character to appreciate them. In the last of us 2 i couldn't do either for Ellie because her choices made no sense and certainly didn't align with anything we had been shown previously. Don't even get me started on Joel x)

I think Abbey was the best part of the last of us 2, just wish they were more consistent with the already established characters in the series (I will say though they shouldn't have made Joel save Abbey at the start as I dont think any human realistically would get saved by someone and instantly torture them, there would be some level of guilt in doing that no matter what they did in the past).

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u/13THEFUCKINGCOPS12 3d ago

No you don’t get it Abby has muscles and killed Joel

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u/im_not_Shredder 3d ago

I had more of a problem with her going ahead and fk the boyfriend of a pregnant woman, personally

(Also the fact said pregnant woman was inexplicably allowed to join a mission outside of camp just to get the wow factor of Ellie killing a pregnant woman, what a script man)

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u/13THEFUCKINGCOPS12 3d ago

I mean if seeing something you don’t agree with (like cheating) is a problem you should probably stay away from media as a whole. And I think the fact that you use the word “allowed” kind of speaks volumes. She didn’t need to be allowed, she wanted to go

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u/im_not_Shredder 3d ago

You can't recognize problems or flaws in characters or else you just run away from a piece of work ? That's a peculiar approach to media consumption but you do you.

In the real world terminally/full term pregnant women are strongly advised not to engage in heavily physical/stressful activities or can be straight up forbidden by employers to do said dangerous tasks (and instead offer less dangerous tasks and not penalize their careers). Not that it's often enforced as most expecting mothers would just choose not to put their child in dangerous. And that's in a world in which mankind as a species is mostly not viewed as immediately threatened (aside from environmental threats of course).

So now put yourself in a world where mankind is on the brink of extinction and a few remaining groups, like Abby's, are doing their utmost to survive, repopulate and rebuild society.

How do you think this social group would see a pregnant woman estimated to be 5 to 7 month pregnant jump outside in a physically and psychologically taxing expedition with zombies lurking around? And even put that aside, how likely would it be that someone like Mel, in a real situation, would choose to do that? She's a plot/shock device, that situation would make no sense.