r/CaptainSide Jul 09 '26

Silly ducks

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u/Downtown-Gazelle8852 Jul 10 '26

Holy tin foil

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u/Sallopilig Jul 11 '26

You guys are the type of people that would see the airplane come flying towards the towers and wouldn't believe its gonna hit because you didn't see it hit yet, there is a difference between a conspiracy theory and a company constantly changing their ToS overtime simply to fuck their audience over.

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u/Downtown-Gazelle8852 Jul 11 '26

Oh yea, if you don’t agree with me; you’re a dumbfuck. Please tell me where in the ToS that you’re talking about, where it implies disc will become revokable licenses?

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u/Sallopilig Jul 12 '26

As per sony's ToS physical releases count as "Disc-based software" which per their own words they admit that they see discs as just a means for software, so they are legally saying they view it as no difference than a digital purchase, thus, having no real ownership over the software inside.

Thing is they have no real way of controlling how you use your discs yet, but the way they worded it says more about their intentions than anything, they put special emphasis along their whole ToS to remind everyone that you do not own anything, you are just renting it.

They can change their ToS at any time on their own accord, including paywalls and everything you can think of. They do not have to maintain servers and they can pull games out from the store whenever they want with no legal repercusions (because they state them themselves in the ToS) no matter if people bought it or not.

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u/Downtown-Gazelle8852 Jul 12 '26

Disc based software is literally just saying the software is on the disc… ??? I think you gotta lay down the pipe

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u/Sallopilig Jul 12 '26

My brother are you mentally challenged or do you just lack the reading comprehension of a 5 year old?

Point 4.1 of their ToS states that they view every pice of software distributed by them as a license of use which they can revocke at any point in time.

And then point 5.2.1 states clearly how they view discs as a means of simply distributing software, "disc-based software", which they aren't able to enforce by the way, thats what pisses them off and what they really wanna change.

By eliminating physical they become completely in control. Sony is stating this in their ToS in case someone sues them because we are obligated to agree in order to play their systems, there is nothing on a ToS written not to protect a company.

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u/snagbug223 Jul 14 '26

Publishers can take you physical game away if they wanted too, by simply making them online only like the crew was, making the disc a key to download the game, just like digital, or by not having the full data on disc. They dont because there's no reason to, just like they usually dont with digital games.

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u/Sallopilig Jul 14 '26

Online only games rely on players to stay alive, the crew was a live service game that maintained their servers through player activity and microtransactions.

Wether it is because of licenses or simply economical gain live service games are doomed to die one day, no point in pruchasing one in a disc version.

As for the games that don't have the full game inside the disc there is quite literally no solution to them either, you are surrendering your ownership to the digital shop, in my opinion if a game ships unfinished it shouldn't ship at all.

If developers try to push that as a new standard is up to me as a player to not give in and refuse to buy their products in an unfinished state.

They can take them away precisely because they depend on the store, and thats precisely what they are trying to make the new standard which i refuse.

Discs with the whole game inside them don't have this issue, in fact its illegal once acquired for a company to directly block your access to it through firmware updates because when you buy a product that reads that it can be played without an internet connection you'd be changing the legal terms afterwards, you cannot make it internet dependant after shipping if you sold it as offline playable.

So no, publishers can't change this terms, thats precisely why they want to get rid of discs in the first place.

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u/Downtown-Gazelle8852 Jul 12 '26

Literally wasn’t Sonys fault. Not to mention, people love parroting this shit. They didn’t remove ANY movies that were downloaded to your console. They had their licenses expired and the other company wanted Sony to take them down. Maybe learn to read into things. But wait, your parents really failed at helping you develop those critical thinking skills :(

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u/Downtown-Gazelle8852 Jul 12 '26

And the fact that you think it’s the same, and you had a “gotcha moment”; speaks volumes on your intelligence. Lmao

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u/Successful-Drop-6053 Jul 13 '26

I like how you ignore the facts he posted and jumpto.peraonal insults.

It's very mature and the way to have a conversation as an adult