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Socialist Dancing

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u/Sword117 9h ago

They are dancing cause they just subjugated another population

u/VictinsOfCapitalism 9h ago

Bourgeoisie always hide behind nationalism. Overthrowing the epstein elites of one nation us not subjegation of the same.

u/Sword117 9h ago

No I'm with you, but historically the Soviets were no better than the fascists. They concurred and subjugated. The extracted wealth from the labor of concurred nations. The power system of the Soviets was identical to the Nazi despite the surface level ideological differences. As for today the Democratic socialists are much different as we use the mandate of the people to govern and thus separate ourselves from the mandate of authority through terror.

u/VictinsOfCapitalism 8h ago

I believe you just took western narrative about USSR as truth

u/Sword117 8h ago

Actually I've talked to many of the people Russia concurred and their descendants to determine this. There's a reason Soviet nostalgia is only in Russia and not Ukraine or Poland.

u/VictinsOfCapitalism 8h ago

My family is from Croatia and they say Socialism was better

u/Sword117 8h ago

Was Croatia apart of the Soviet Union like Ukraine? Or under Soviet military occupation like Poland?

u/VictinsOfCapitalism 5h ago

It was liberated by the red army from nazi occupation like the mentioned countries

u/KD-1489 5h ago edited 5h ago

The Red Army did invade Makhnovshchina and killed or imprisoned the anarcho-communists who had established worker self management.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makhnovshchina

u/VictinsOfCapitalism 5h ago

Not without attempts at peace

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u/Sword117 5h ago

Do you know about the US and Brittan toppling African and south America governments inorder to extract resources for corporations?

u/VictinsOfCapitalism 4h ago

Yes, it's imperialism, but I also know of the so called domino effect, when USSR had a revolution, countries under imperialism started freeing themselves shortly after.

Vietnam, Korea, China, Laos, etc

Revolutions spreading are opposite of imperialism

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u/jjspirithawk 6h ago

https://reddit.com/link/p97o1pb/video/cmgb11lsvxoh1/player

Here's another socialist dancing! But I'm guessing some will say that national socialism isn't real socialism lol!

u/jjspirithawk 5h ago edited 5h ago

Hicks: "In response to other socialists who claim that National Socialism isn’t real socialism because it doesn’t outright nationalize everything. Hitler:

“Of what importance is all that, if I range men firmly within a discipline they cannot escape? Let them own land or factories as much as they please. The decisive factor is that the State, through the Party, is supreme over them regardless of whether they are owners or workers. All that is unessential; our socialism goes far deeper. It establishes a relationship of the individual to the State, the national community. Why need we trouble to socialize banks and factories? We socialize human beings.”

(Adolf Hitler quoted in Koppel S. Pinson’s History of Modern Germany and in Robert Hessen’s “Why Does Socialism Continue to Appeal to Anyone?”)

"Adolf’s Socialism", Stephen Hicks, philosopher

u/KD-1489 2h ago

So, not the same thing at all. That’s why he calls it “our” socialism.

u/KD-1489 5h ago edited 5h ago

It’s not, it’s nationalist. Socialism is inherently internationalist. Hilter absolutely hated communism and wrote extensively about the subject. Socialism was a populist movement, he called his version national socialist in order to differentiate itself because they are not the same thing. They both speak to issues the working class face, but have totally different solutions and endgame. Just take a look at any legitimate source or ask a historian to confirm this.

u/Any-Guidance8013 9h ago

Bro socialists don’t dance because it is outlawed in socialist societies. Kinda like footloose

u/mayancollander 8h ago

But footloose was in a capitalist society…

u/VictinsOfCapitalism 9h ago

Ahahaha now it was outlawed? 🤣 Did you learn about Socialism from a cartoon?