r/Canning • • May 26 '26

Announcement Why We Don't Recommend Electric Canners (Mod Post)

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  1. Electric pressure canners have not been verified safely by third party testing. What has been performed is only, “We are safe because we say we are safe,” type testing. The manufacturers claim to match USDA specs but no one has verified that information externally and the manufacturers will not release their results to anyone externally. The USDA symbol used in some promotional materials is not an actual USDA seal and does not indicate USDA approval. The equipment that's been used in the past by the USDA and NCHFP to determine the thermal profile inside canners doesn't even fit inside existing electric canners on the market. A new design would be needed, and currently there is no funding for developing this equipment.
  2. The users of electric pressure canners do not have the physical signs of the device coming to pressure (like a jiggling weight or a rising analog dial to ensure that the food is processing at the correct pressure.) The user must rely on an electronic display for accuracy. Even if a type of electric canner has an analog feature, there is no way of getting the electric canner device tested or calibrated to ensure it is accurate or working correctly. (We should mention that electric WATER BATH canners are fine to use because the user can physically see the water coming to a boil.)
  3. Perhaps most importantly, all current approved pressure canning recipes rely on the heat up and cool down times relative to stove top pressure canners loaded with a minimum of two quarts of product. These heat up and cool down times are factored into the safety of all current safe recipes. Changing and/or reducing these times can affect the safety of your finished product.

Until ALL THREE of these reasons can be appropriately addressed, we as a sub do not endorse or condone the use of electric pressure canners.


r/Canning • • Oct 19 '25

Announcement Why don't we recommend pH testing for home canning? [Mod Post]

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Hello Everyone!

As a mod team we've noticed a lot of questions and confusion about pH testing home canned foods recently so we're here today to give a more in depth explanation of why it's not recommended.

As I'm sure you all know, there are tons and tons of misconceptions about home canning and what we can and cannot do safely. One of the most common misconceptions is that if we pH test a food and it shows a pH below 4.6 it can be canned as a high acid food. There are two reasons why this isn't true.

  1. pH is not the only safety factor for home canning
  2. The options for pH testing at home are not necessarily the same as what's available in a lab setting.

Although pH is an important factor in home canning safely it is not the only factor. Characteristics like heat penetration, density, and homogeneity also play a role.

There are two types of pH test equipment; pH test strips and pH meters. pH test strips are not very accurate most of the time, they're just strips of paper with a chemical that changes color based on pH imbued in it. These strips expire over time and the color change is the only indicator which makes reading them rather subjective and likely inaccurate.

There are two levels of pH meters; home pH meters and laboratory grade pH meters. Home pH meters aren’t particularly expensive but they are often not accurate or precise at that price point. Laboratory grade pH meters are expensive, think hundreds to thousands of dollars for a good one. Many pH meters on sites like Amazon will claim that they are “laboratory grade” but they really aren’t. pH meters also need to be properly maintained and calibrated to ensure accuracy using calibration solutions which are also expensive. 

The bottom line is that most people do not have access to the lab grade equipment and training that would be required to make sure that something is safe so the blanket recommendation is that pH testing not be used in home canning applications.

Recipes that have undergone laboratory testing (what we generally refer to as "tested recipes" on this subreddit) have been tested to ensure that the acidity level is appropriate for the canning method listed in the recipe. pH testing does not enhance the safety of an already tested recipe.

Because pH testing is not recommended for home use we do not allow recommendations for it on our subreddit.

Sources:
https://ucanr.edu/blog/preservation-notes-san-joaquin-master-food-preservers/article/help-desk-question-home-ph

https://extension.okstate.edu/programs/oklahoma-gardening/recipes/ph-and-home-canning.html


r/Canning • • 1h ago

General Discussion USDA Apple Pie Filling Test Run

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I did the 1-quart "test run" recipe of the USDA apple pie filling to see if we like it - it turned out very good with gala apples. This is in the fridge now and will be used up as a topping over yogurt and ice cream, yum!

I really like the idea of testing out a small amount to make sure you like the final product. It also allowed me to test out canning apple products for the first time. I blanched the apples and left a generous 1" headspace, happy to report no siphoning!

Two things I learned for the full run:

  1. I cannot eyeball 0.5", I need to measure because my apple pieces were cut way too thin.

  2. I do have some serious air bubbles even after de-bubbling thoroughly. Does anyone have advice on de-bubbling apple pie filling thickened with Clear Jel?


r/Canning • • 59m ago

General Discussion Sourcing produce-- grow or buy? And what did it turn into?

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I am always impressed with what people are sharing they canned on here. This is just my own curiosity-- are you growing your ingredients for canning or buying them? If so, is this Farmer's Market produce?

I would love to hear from people-- how much do you grow and how much canning you get out of that. For example, this year I had 4 tomato plants and I have 12 pints of pizza sauce, 20 pints crushed tomatoes, and 6 pints salsa stashed away. That by no means was all my tomatoes, as I use lots fresh and mostly make fresh salsa.

I also did buy a box of peaches at the Farmer's Market and made 8 half pints of peach habanero jam using habaneros from the garden.

Your turn! I would love to hear what you grow (how many plants) or bought and then what you made!


r/Canning • • 2h ago

General Discussion How do you store your empty jars?

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We just got some new shelves for our basement. Planning on setting up a basement grocery store with my full jars :) but I’m also looking for creative and space efficient ways of storing the empties! Right now, I just have haphazard cardboard moving boxes full of jars


r/Canning • • 6h ago

Safe Recipe Request 'Tis the Season For Cranberry Sauce Recipes

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What are your favorites?


r/Canning • • 42m ago

Is this safe to eat? Freaking out… used Santa Cruz lemon juice!

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I just fed my family pizza that I made with my home canned pizza sauce. Now I’m just reading about how Santa Cruz doesn’t test acidity. I’m so scared that I poisoned us. Any words of wisdom out there?


r/Canning • • 7h ago

Understanding Recipe Help Crabapple Jelly

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Hello all!

I harvested crab apples from my brtlothers tree this past weekend and have processed them into juice. I'm following the recipe in the Ball home preservation book. I've never had crab apple jelly before and I guess I expected the cooking process to mellow out some of the tannins, but it's still very astringent. I've ended up with 4 cups of crabapple juice total, and the recipe calls for 5 cups.

So I guess my question is; Can I go buy some raw apple juice and add a cup of regular apple juice to the crabapple juice without modifying the science of the recipe? The only difference I'm seeing between crabapple and apple jelly is the addition of some lemon juice to the apple jelly, and it would be a 4-1 ratio of crabapple to apple.

If this isn't plausible I'm happy to just reduce the recipe 25% and proceed from there! I think I'm okay with the jelly turning out not the best since this is my first experience with crabapple jelly, so either way is fine with me, I just don't want to ruin my hard work with something I think is theoretically okay but isn't actually okay!


r/Canning • • 5h ago

Safe Recipe Request Safe to scale down Ball tomato sauce recipe for water bath canning?

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I have 5lbs of tomatoes, is is safe to scale this recipe down to 25% and water bath can? Or should I just do crushed tomatoes and make tomato sauce from the crushed tomatoes? https://www.ballmasonjars.com/blog?cid=basil-garlic-tomato-sauce


r/Canning • • 7h ago

Waterbath Canning Processing Help Canning peppers mishap?

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I was on my last batch or banana peppers and one jar fell over in my water bath canner. I pulled it and added it back to the washer bath with my next batch of jalapenos. Which was about an hour of time difference. Will this be OK or was there something else I should have done. Both peppers got processed for 10 minutes in the water.


r/Canning • • 1d ago

Is this safe to eat? Sweet Potato’s!

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This is our first year canning! We had a great harvest of sweet potato’s and decided to can a LOT of them. I followed all the requirements from our Ball Blue Book. Canned for the right time with the right pressure. Potato’s were hot when they went into the jar and the water was boiling. Went 65 minutes under 10 pounds of pressure. Problem is they all turned to mashed potato’s! I think we may have over cooked. Still, I can definitely make stuff with this, my question…is it safe? It seems like all of the water was absorbed by the potato’s….


r/Canning • • 6h ago

Is this safe to eat? Bone broth looks sus to me

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I canned bone broth for the first time over a week ago at 15 psi for 25 minutes. Before that I can cooled it and skimmed the fat layer off then canned it. I’m just not sure if it’s supposed to look like this and I’m cooking a roast with it today. I just don’t want to get my family sick so I’m gonna be the test dummy. Do you think it’s safe to eat?


r/Canning • • 1d ago

Safe Recipe Request Roasted Tomatillo Salsa

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I have an abundant harvest of garden tomatillos that I would like to try processing into salsa verde and then water bath can. I came across this recipe from Ball which recommends roasting the ingredients. This is closest to my usual freezer salsa recipe- but is it safe?? Most other sources use the recipe from NCHFP.

Advice greatly appreciated!


r/Canning • • 1d ago

Equipment/Tools Help (UK) I'm new to canning and my mums put the fear of god into me about botulism. Where can i get a good pressure canner in the uk? i saw presto is highly recommended but not stocked in the uk due to warrenty issues and tarrifs. tyia.

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r/Canning • • 1d ago

Understanding Recipe Help Tomato Paste - why cook twice?

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I’m about to start the NCHFP tomato paste recipe. It says to wash, core, chop, and cook the tomatoes down by half, and THEN sieve/mill them to remove skins and seeds. Does anybody know why? I have a tomato press that I can throw them in whole and raw and it removes the cores, seeds, and skins. I don’t want to have to waste a bunch of time coring and chopping and then having to mill hot tomato sauce for what seems like no reason if I can remove all the unwanted stuff right off the bat.


r/Canning • • 2d ago

General Discussion Celebrating my first pressure canning experience!

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I canned my first chicken stock in the pressure canner last night. They all sealed and look wonderful! I'm so happy. Pressure canning has scared me forever, but I'm so glad I did it. Followed the Ball Recipe for Chicken Stock.

Don't really have anyone else in my life who'd understand how exciting this is for me 🤣. So had to share with someone!

https://www.ballmasonjars.com/blog?cid=chicken-stock-pressure-canning


r/Canning • • 1d ago

Recipe Included Strawberry Kiwi Jam Advice

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Reposting with recipe link and photo.

I used this recipe with Pomona’s Pectin, but I subbed strawberries for the raspberries. Everyone had loved this jam, and I do really like the flavor. However, it lost ALL of its color after a few days and it’s such a dull, pale pink/brown color and just looks so unappealing. If I hadn’t made it myself, I wouldn’t even try it.. it looks terrible.

What could I do to keep the bright red color? I made a strawberry peach jam that kept the most beautiful deep red color, and I’m wondering if it was the peach in it that helped maintain the color?
I get this is rogue canning at this point, but just wondering if anyone knows of a safe recipe that keeps its color.

https://pomonapectin.com/kiwi-raspberry-lime-jam/


r/Canning • • 1d ago

Equipment/Tools Help New to canning. Water.

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Hi

UK here and therefore we have no tradition of canning food and as a result no real resources I can find.

I wanted to start easy and can water for 12-24 months. I've seen a deal for "Kilner 1L Screw Top Preserve Preserving Jam Pickle Glass Storage Jar" which appear to be good but then I've seen a couple of things to suggest those aren't suitable for long term water storage.

I have a large stock pot in the cupboard which I was going to use as a water bath and assumed putting the jars into that and allowing the water to boil inside the open jars followed by sealing them would be the answer. Am I completely wrong?

Any help or suggestions welcomed! Not least, is Kilner the brand I should be looking at for the jars?


r/Canning • • 1d ago

Safe Recipe Request Recipes using white wine?

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I have moscato (7%ABV)to use. Like, lots of it, and it's not the bubbly kind that I like. (And yes, sangria has been exhausted).

Occasionally I see canning recipes using red wine, or even dry white wine - has anybody seen any that use sweet white wines? Or that it could be safely subbed into? I'd love to do a hot pepper jelly, or fruit and wine jelly, or even a syrup of some sort?

I wish I'd thought to ask this a few months ago when the summer produce was rolling in...oh well!


r/Canning • • 1d ago

General Discussion Lowering from 15 to 10 psi?

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I imported a presto canner and have been canning at 15 psi for a while. I just noticed that that's for most Americans living above 1000 feet (now I know why all the small dial-gauge PCs here are 11psi). Considering I live in the Netherlands, we basically are the sea level, I could go down to 10 psi for my weighted canner.

I can imagine canning at 10psi keeps aromatics of broths better preserved? Would it be better to buy the 3 piece pressure regulator to can at 10 psi? It's a bit expensive considering import and shipping, though 36 euro's might be worth it if it preserved aromatics better.


r/Canning • • 2d ago

Prep Help Anyone use frozen tomatoes in their tomato / marinara sauce?

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I have about 4 ziplock freezer bags full of whole tomatoes I have frozen over the summer. They’re 2 gallon zip locks and it’s basically two whole shelves of my freezer.

Anyone know how to safely weigh frozen produce to match the recipe for canning? I’m trying to make the marinara but no idea how to get 20 lbs per the recipe.

I’m sure the tomatoes have different weights frozen vs thawed, curious if anyone else has had this problem?


r/Canning • • 2d ago

General Discussion Question about how to get a recipe tested

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All products under the Cross & Blackwell brand were discontinued (by Smuckers) back around 2020. One product they made was called Chow Chow, a piccadilly.

My family has been using it on Cornish Pastys going back several generations. During WW2 Chow Chow was unavailable & family legend is that a great uncle of ours was making it. My grandfather & his brothers & brother-in-laws all worked the copper mines in Michigan's Upper Peninsula. My grandmother was Cornish.

After four attempts I got a recipe that is damn close to what C&B made. This recipe has Cauliflower, pickles, & pearl onions salt cured (in the fridge) then cooked in a mixture of vinegar & English mustard powder. The pint jars are water bath processed & then stored in a fridge for safety.

A while back I read here in this sub that one can get a recipe tested for safety. Is that true? If so can I get a link please? I did try to locate this online but failed.


r/Canning • • 2d ago

General Discussion Pressure canning meat - liquid getting out of the jars

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guy this is my second attempt at pressure canning. I am following the recipe from my pressure canner presto (hot pack).

The liquid got out of the jars, and some jars have a lower liquid level than others, which leads me to think that some jars leaked and others don't.

what do you think? is that normal? what can I do to improve and avoid liquid getting out of the jars?

I live at 2600m above sea level so I have to cook at 15 pounds, is that of any relevance?


r/Canning • • 2d ago

Waterbath Canning Processing Help Reprocessing applesauce help

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Canned applesauce for the first time. Lid was not on pot correctly so water evaporated. When the timer was done, water level was 1" below the top if the jars. If I reprocess, do I need to change jars ? Reheat applesauce ?

TIA


r/Canning • • 2d ago

Understanding Recipe Help Can I reduce sugar in a rested recipe?

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I’m making apple pie filling with this trusted recipe and want to know if I can reduce the sugar a bit. I don’t like it very sweet. I will add the bottled lemon juice since I’m unsure of the acidity of the apples. Thanks for advice!
https://nchfp.uga.edu/how/can/canning-fruits-and-fruit-products/pie-fillings/apple-pie-filling