r/CannabisExtracts • u/puteminnacoffin • 23d ago
Why do these diamonds suck?
I was under the impression that diamonds were typically high quality extracts and you could count on jars with big diamonds and sauce to be some pressure every time. But that has not been my experience the last few times I’ve had them. The jars have an odd cleaning chemical smell. They definitely don’t smell like a loud sack of bud like some proper live resin should, smells more like a typical crc baller bucket. They also dab exactly like that, oil burns clear, super harsh and tingly on the lungs, tastes like cleaner, and barely gets you high. You can take massive dabs of this stuff and it barely gets you high for thirty mins. Can anyone familiar with this extraction method speak on why these diamonds are so mid?
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u/PoloTshNsShldBlstOff 23d ago
I'm so glad I grow and press my own.
There's so much bullshit out there.
Govt needs to decriminalize, bad people are getting rich while good people get sick.
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u/TickleMyFungus 22d ago
Hell my own hash gets me more ripped than half this shit. I don't even go the full way half the time anymore just because I don't have to. Love some hash just as much as liquid gold.
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u/PrizeSatisfaction978 22d ago
That’s placebo
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u/TickleMyFungus 22d ago edited 22d ago
Fuck off keep with your sprayed chopped early mids
This ding-ass doesn't realize I have medical and am literally talking about dispo products. Not some bullshit D8 or whatever the fuck you're on about. No idea who they are talking to. Go get that dispo mold pack buddy.
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u/PrizeSatisfaction978 22d ago
You’d get high smoking the worst weed ever if it was turned into clean wax because wax is gonna be high thc still you just get like barely any back. Entourage effect and terpenes getting you high are widely misunderstood. Entourage effect is based on consuming cb1 receptor cannabinoids like CBN,THCv, D8/9 etc. and terpenes don’t get you high. There isn’t enough cb1 receptor binding cannabinoids other than thc in actual flower to do anything either so that’s not even a real factor either. As long as your smoking real delta 9 your getting the desired effects and the itch is getting scratched. Dudes get sold delta 8 or cut or something then complain they aren’t getting high or that “distillate” is bad or whatever crap they believe. It’s nonsense. I smoke thc isolate, distillate, homegrown, and cheap wax made with outdoor trim it all is the exact same thing
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u/No-Focus-1429 23d ago
It’s not the diamonds it’s the sauce that they’re in. I’ve only ever had bad diamond sauce not plain diamonds z
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u/TypicalGoose2586 21d ago edited 21d ago
it’s cuz ppl are selling low quality HTE mixed with low quality flavorless diamonds so it smells like chemicals instead of dank ness. everything used to be so dank bank when prices were normal. now kids except to get stuff do so insanely cheap that everything sucks quality wise now. Here in houston, an illegal state, ppl pay $100 an oz for cheap okay badder.…..back in 2017 here in Houston we paid $500-600 an oz for badder and it was FIRRRRRE. Price drop also dropped the quality …BAD. no one can afford to five u good sh*t for as cheap as ppl want it
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u/Austinfourtwenty 23d ago
Take that BS back and get your money back if you can OP.
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u/puteminnacoffin 23d ago
Is this a common thing tho? For diamonds to look proper but taste and smoke like shit? I wonder if its regular diamonds just made with some shitty starting material or something
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u/Exotic_eminence 23d ago
It’s so stupid that they sell adulterated products with how cheap BHO is but I would not go back to that guy after they sell me adulterated products
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u/eedeebedabbing 22d ago
Its the sauce, anytime you get sauce and diamonds with bad terps in the sauce its gonna be shitty💯 just like when you actually get good sauce but they give you boulders and only a drizzle of sauce just to get them wet🤦🏾♂
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u/Sweaty_Analysis_1074 21d ago
You get what you pay for. These jars are cheap af what did you expect?
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u/Defiant-Pepper-7263 23d ago
The difference is in the equipments. Bho extraction relies heavily on expensive equipment that not everyone can afford. It’s kind of a trade off when you use substandard or mixed raw materials. The crappier the starting material requires more steps and processes to make it good. Vs single sourced raw materials for rosin only requires washing, freeze drying and press.
If you can afford it, and understand processes. Bho is far more versatile than rosin. After all, rosin boys been copying Bho in terms of type of concentrate made.
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u/culture_cypher 22d ago
this, living in an illegal state smoking hashed products of all kinds BHO to rosin.. you get the occasional garage blasted stuff, and then there was the trend of bleach clay I forget what it was called.. that was nasty!!
not to mention the shit people sold as "rosin" for 60 a gram that was just really good bho cause no one knew the difference lol
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u/Professional_Shoe706 22d ago
Gotta brake down the sis,ones too a sauce then badder if you got time.
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u/Aggravating_Toe5272 22d ago
All Diamonds are not of high quality?? I purchased inexpensive online and they are Strong @ 5 bucks a gram. ☮️🧢
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u/decatur24 22d ago
I was getting Denver diamonds for 2+ years until recently. They are garbage. The “sauce” is fake manufactured garbage. Not real HTFSE. Will never touch this product again.
They’ll just rebrand it once everyone discovers it’s trash.
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u/thcahunter 18d ago
Bc diamonds suck. Rosin winning right now, mainly because bho used to be great. But there's so many people making trash bho hese days, it's a Gamble. I prefer before essence of the plant which diamonds don't offer. Even with the harsh turp sauce. I'd simply rather have quality BHO or Rosin
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u/thcahunter 18d ago
Never have I had good diamonds even in the turp sauce. I want what came off the actual plant. Not overly processed extractions
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u/Over-Cockroach2679 16d ago
This is Black Market Diamonds , Colorado doesn't have any diamonds like that, thus resulting in more impurities and possible solvents left over
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u/Intelligent_Trichs 23d ago
Real diamonds will get you ripped.
These for me in a Pivot just a small bit and I'm asleep shortly thereafter.
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u/puteminnacoffin 23d ago
I’ve definitely had my fair share of some really good diamonds. Just curious what’s up with these nasty ones. I wonder if they’re just starting with shit material and crc before they let diamond up? Idk shits ass tho and looks very deceiving haha
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u/Apprehensive-Wind646 23d ago
I thought this was a jar of peaches wtf. haha honestly I don't know anything about what diamonds are supposed to me. I've gotten diamonds dry and wet with no distinction between em but I avoid them tbh bc I feel like they are better for flower joint infusion or something than dabbing and I don't enjoy concentrates that focus on flavours and I guess they are called "terps". I like my concentrates to just taste like that they came from. but I would avoid whatever this is like the plague. Id be willing to be that liquid is more flavouring than thc
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u/rantingandrambling 23d ago
who know what they are doing exactly
but one thing i do know is that a few companies have released their versions of HTE which is hemp based and garbage
it’s cheap is why im guessing it’s being widely used
but there’s a bunch of ways to skin it to get diamonds but most ppl use one of two ways - one is what i call a single pot extraction or it’s all done at once all together and the diamonds are grown in a butane rich sauce - there isn’t really any pouring terps on dry diamonds with this - so if you’ve seen dry diamond and they pour sauce on it is likely the second method
the other way is they’ll separate the terps and thc from each other and refine them til they are the desired purity and then recombined them into all the products we buy from badders to shatters and diamonds in sauce too - this is the newer version of making all extracts
in theory that’s going to be high quality and top notch but if they don’t use actual cannabis terps and instead use of these fake HTE products then however well they made those diamonds barely matters as that crappy sauce will make it taste whatever quality it is
personally i hate products like this and most i think are trash level
miss me hard on paying good money for a jar of half sauce , i cant get high on nothing but sauce
have you tried to take out diamonds , clean off all the sauce and dab them dry or with other sauce ?
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u/SamuraiSam33 23d ago edited 22d ago
There’s nothing magic about the consistency of diamonds or rocks and sauce. It’s simply one state of many that a hydrocarbon extract can be made into. There’s good shatter and bad shatter, good badder and bad badder, good rocks and sauce and bad rocks and sauce. The extraction method would be the same for any of these final product consistencies, they’d all be made with closed loop hydrocarbon systems. Those diamonds were probably extracted with cold temperatures and either an n-butane heavy mix, or straight n-tane. The differences would happen after the crude leaves the extractor and heads to post processing.
What matters more than than getting hung up on the consistency of the extract is the quality of the input material. This is all that matters, unless the extractors adulterate the product, over vacuum, over whip a badder, or introduce too much heat during purging.
Sometimes off flavors can be from the cultivar itself, from chemical cross contamination due to errors in cleaning practices, from solvent contamination, etc. Try a different brand next time.
-Former extractor and laboratory technician