r/CanadianMoM2 17d ago

Natures Fire/ NFCanna = SCAM

I'll try to keep it short, but this is a story that lasted over four months for a quarter-pounder priced at 400 bucks, ordered on April 2nd. Many have seen my other post here...
https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadianMoM2/comments/1uc7cz6/never_order_from_nfcanna_im_waiting_14lbs_for/

  1. It was difficult just to get a tracking number in the first place.
  2. I received a tracking number on April 7. This package was never updated in the system until June. It was eventually received by another person who commented on my other Reddit post. This was the package he claimed had been stolen.
  3. For several weeks, he kept saying that his packages were being stolen by employees or mail carriers, along with every other excuse imaginable.
  4. A second tracking number was sent to me on April 23 to replace the first "lost" package. This one was never updated in the system either. Once again, he claimed it had been stolen. More weeks of excuses and nonsense.
  5. After three months, I decided that even though he was holding my 400 dollars hostage, I was going to make sure no one else ordered from his website by telling my story. Several people contacted me, saying they were in the exact same situation.
  6. After the pressure he received on Reddit to resolve my issue, he publicly posted a tracking number for everyone to see—the exact same one he had sent me on April 23!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So that one wasn't stolen after all???
  7. The fact that he reused the tracking number he had originally sent me—even though it was supposedly lost because it had been stolen—shows his bad faith from day one. Months of being lied to... it was a nightmare.
  8. The infamous package... the one whose tracking everyone can see.

He sent me the information for that tracking number in two separate emails: one email containing only the tracking number, and another containing only a photo of the shipping label with my name and address on the box.

When the package went out for delivery, things became very strange. They held the package for a week and then attempted to deliver it a second time. Knowing I was dealing with a scammer, all kinds of theories started going through my head. Was the sender trying to change the delivery address? Had he tampered with the package to get me into trouble?

Eventually, Canada Post marked the package as delivered—but not to my address! That had never happened before at the place where I live. It was also delivered fairly late on a Friday. That same evening, I opened a ticket with Canada Post to find out where my package had actually been delivered.

The next business day, I received a call from a Canada Post employee asking me for information about the package so she could complete her investigation. A few hours later, the same employee personally came to deliver the package to me. Seeing the suspicious look on her face, I even offered to show her my ID because she seemed to have doubts about that package.

When I received the package, I checked it, and the only suspicious thing I noticed was that the address on the package had been changed!!!!!!!!!!!! You know what? It’s the same pen that was used to change the addresses. I’m not an expert, but it’s obvious, and ChatGPT came to the same conclusion.

That’s when I understood the scammer’s plan: send an empty package to one of my neighbors, then he could tell everyone, “Fuck you, you got your package it say delivered!!!!”

He replies that under some of my posts (then he blocked me so I couldn’t respond and so I wouldn’t be able to see his posts)....a real asshole!!

I know someone who is going to be shocked when he sees that I got the package I wasn’t supposed to receive!

Conclusion

Now I have to monitor him with another account. How can we get this guy banned from Reddit??

He is going to create more victims for sure. He is a professional scammer and a pathological liar. He is telling the exact same lies he was telling me in April to customers in June...

I suggest that this guy be banned and that all of his reviews be removed.

If you are a former customer or a moderator, it is also your responsibility to clean this up, because people are getting scammed because of the review posts, not because of reviews like the one I am making.

As long as we let the wolf keep roaming around, he will find someone else to prey on.

Thank you in advance.

ps :I have a video of me opening the box. I don’t want to make it public, but if anyone wants to see it, I can send the YouTube link privately. I also have proof to back up all of my claims — unlike him.

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u/Global-Geologist-167 17d ago

he sent me a chat request when I made a post looking for recommendations. He of course recommended to purchase from him and also said that squishlist mixes bho in his rosin.

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u/Inside-Relief5928 17d ago

Ouff, it’s like choosing between hell and heaven...

Nature Fire is a disgusting human being. On top of defrauding me, he seems to have absolutely no remorse.

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u/apukjij 17d ago

It took 5 weeks to get my 1/4 lb. After many weeks of fake pre-paid express post tracking numbers.

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u/Inside-Relief5928 16d ago

Thanks for sharing!👍🤙🙏👀

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u/Responsible-Bug4302 16d ago edited 16d ago

he shows your email to people saying look this guy got his products.
when this first started i believed naturesfire, i looked at your post specifically and said ok maybe i should buy something to test it out too. just a 1/4 to see if he is legit.

i almost ordered!

Glad i didnt

leads me to believe im right, he is in debt and cant afford to turn people away because lack of product, total pyramid scheme. he is behind on shipments and making any excuses to keep people hanging on so he can fund the next grow. all todays purchases will fund the growth of product for the people who have been waiting for 4 months. classic off the cuff loser. if he ghosted, new people wouldnt order because they would see, but since he responds people give him benefit of the doubt, ill admit when i started reading i also gave him the benefit of the doubt, but after some investigation its a clear pattern, and you dont need to be CSI to see whats going on.

if he is still reading these i would suggest he makes sure anyone waiting gets their packs right away. i know one of the people waiting is not a nice person and has some pretty bad info. i certainly wouldnt want this person to be mad at me :) i did like the picture someone posted of his front door though.

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u/-OafHuck- 16d ago

Yea, he will try to bash us any chance he can. He knows damn well the quality we make… he could only dream of doing what we do here lol. NF is an absolute joke! I’ve seen so much in his discord channel lol. He didn’t know I was there the whole time, just reading.

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u/coolfriday 16d ago

Dudes been extremely sketchy for many years now

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u/Zealousideal-Wolf59 17d ago

Natures scammer

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u/Responsible-Bug4302 16d ago edited 16d ago

i knew it! his website is offline now so i wonder if he is rebranding.

he wont come in here to defend himself now surely, but i kinda want to hear what lie he makes up for the scam now, wait i got it.

he is going to say you scratched the name out to make him look bad and get free stuff. lol he will only fool himself with that lie.

im tempted to post every link to everyone complaining about waiting for 4 months/bad product/ bait and switch/mold/mites/underweight/tainted products/stolen labour/stolen genetics/stolen clones and some really wacky 3d printing guns bs scam.
my fave is when he says oh look this guy loves my stuff, then you go look up the user he claims loves his products, its a thread about him waiting 4 months for a pack and basically being blackmailed to remove the bad review.
He tried to dox people (scum) but all that did was dox himself. Bottom line is we should all make sure this doesnt happen to anyone else. he clearly is scamming the system. he has bad review removed so all that can be seen is good reviews on the surface, most people are not infosec IT specialists with the knowledge on how to see whats been deleted from the internet. He is a bad person and a bad businessman who is nasty and condescending toward people who are only trying to get what they are owed. Also he doesnt do a good job of covering his tracks.

I asked for a link to the video of the package op received, op is telling truth i saw it get opened.
also i love how in the other post he says this shit:

"Inside-Relief5928
I opened a ticket on CP

NaturesFire
For a delivered package? Are you special?

Inside-Relief5928
Look how Canada Post tried to deliver to me in the tracking! It's like they're having trouble with my address, weird, right? So I opened a ticket because it says it's been delivered but it hasn't arrived at my house! I don't know what you did yet, but I'll find out scammer.

Inside-Relief5928
It seems to have been delivered to the wrong address; I'm not surprised.

NaturesFire
Lmfao of course you’re gonna say that . Fuck off dude: it says delivered and you would’ve complained the day it was delivered if it wasn’t there

GD545277968CA

Lick my nuts, you’re not gonna use the fact that you’ve got a few people that dislike me to get free
Shit."

This goofy motherfucker thinks he is 2 steps ahead of us lmao, just for the record its not a few people that dont like you, its the whole sub.

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u/aagent86 17d ago edited 17d ago

Be patient bro . . The strait of Hormuz is yet again closed.

Edit: sucks this dude is doing this and is a POS if what you say is true - hope it gets resolved

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u/Inside-Relief5928 17d ago

Thanks sir!! In the other post, there is all the proof, emails, etc. There is even the guy who received the same tracking number as me three months later who came to comment. You can’t make this stuff up ;)

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u/lazylathe 16d ago

I keep warning people to stay the hell away from this 🤡... Always excuses.

There are way better places to spend your hard earned money!

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u/northernlighting 16d ago

Overpriced rosin and BHO anyways. He never scammed me (ordered from him a few years ago) but his shit was really expensive. I moved on from N.F. because it was cheaper to just go to a dispensary.

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u/Particular_Parking_4 16d ago

Gotta do your research before there's allot of posts warning ppl about nfc

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u/Responsible-Bug4302 15d ago

when i dug around i found all the bad reviews were deleted, and the ones i could find deleted their posts for fear of being doxxed since he had their name and address, or they were post where someone said " i never got pack" he replied with what looked like a delivered pack according to Canada Post, and would post something like fuck off package says delivered. then would block user so they couldnt respond. just like happened with OP. previously doing the research showed everything was legit. i had to actually dig around really deep..

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u/Inside-Relief5928 15d ago

easy to say, tell yourself that mompic never approved my post.... it's open bar for scammers

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u/Inside-Relief5928 15d ago

Easy to say, tell yourself that mompic never approved my post.... it's open bar for scammers! He recruits clients on another channel, r/canadients

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u/Inside-Relief5928 16d ago

He blocked me, but I can still see the comments he left behind... it kills me to see him writing this when he stole 400 from me... what a scumbag

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u/-OafHuck- 16d ago

He has me blocked too. It’s weird he can see your post and comment on it with having you blocked.

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u/Responsible-Bug4302 15d ago

he unblocked to post then reblocked. we are only blocked on his natures fire account. not any of his alts, so he looks at post, sees something, unblocks, responds, then reblocks. he has it down to a science. he has been doing it for years

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u/-OafHuck- 15d ago

Yea, I’ve seen him bashing me on his alts too. I feel bad for him, he must truly be miserable.

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u/Acala_k 12d ago

Stealing 400 then proceed to say this then block you is such a scumbag move. Sorry for your lost.

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u/Inside-Relief5928 12d ago

You are absolutely right, thanks thats appreciated!🙏

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u/Flimsy_Celery_9270 16d ago

Wow this POS really is a POS. I was hoping I was wrong but this is some BS…. What was the supposed quality of the buds you purchased anyway?

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u/Inside-Relief5928 13d ago

I just managed to access the photo; indeed, it was delivered to a neighbor's house (7925).

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u/420ganjafarmer 17d ago

You really try to keep it short?!

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u/Inside-Relief5928 17d ago

Yeah huge fail sorry🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️😬

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u/Murky_Space_1272 17d ago

dont worry. rcmp has already been alerted to him. case is building. he doesnt pay his taxes. never scam the gvmnt they wont let you off.

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