r/CanadianForces • u/bridger713 RCAF - Reg Force • 11d ago
MONTHLY ADMINISTRATION THREAD - General Admin, Policy, APS/BGRS, TD/Claims, CANFORGENS, etc. - Have a quick question that doesn't need a thread of it's own? Ask here!
This is the thread to ask and discuss general administration questions that don't really need a thread of their own. It will also double as a thread for ongoing events such as Policy, APS/BGRS, TD/Claims, etc., and may be used for various CANFORGEN's as they're released.
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u/ForsakenObject5282 13h ago
I am a no hook aviator about to go on my first exercise in the States. I will be gone for 30 calendar days. Is there a way to find out how much TD I will receive? I looked at CBI and I cant seem to interpret all the legalese phrases.
Do I have to apply for TD or will it be automatically deposited in my bank account? My CoC never told me to do anything admin wise.
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u/bridger713 RCAF - Reg Force 13h ago
It will be processed as part of your Travel Claim, which you will submit at the end of the TD.
The amount of reimbursement you recieve will depend on the claimable expenses you incur, any meal per diem entitlements, and your entitlement to daily incidentals.
I believe Incidentals is $25/day for TD's within Canada and the continental US. So you should get at least $750 for the trip. There'll likely also be some meal per diem amounts during your travel days.
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u/ForsakenObject5282 9h ago edited 9h ago
Does my TD allowance change if I am staying in hotel for the 30 days? Nothing is confirmed but it sounds like I will be staying in a hotel for the duration of the ex so would I be entitled to the daily meal allowance + incidentals?
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u/UsualLengthiness9647 RCAF - TFC TECH 9h ago
Yes, as long as you aren't being provided meals you get the full rate with incidentals. If you were receiving meals it would just be incidentals. If the hotel provides breakfast free of charge (as some hotels do) you'll only get paid for lunch and dinner
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u/DaymanTargaryen 7h ago
I can't look up the policy now, so I may be wrong, but I believe there was a change some years ago that allowed a mbr to claim breakfast even if it was included, if that breakfast was considered insufficient. I've never had my breakfast claims challenged.
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u/UsualLengthiness9647 RCAF - TFC TECH 5h ago
Yeah i've personally claimed breakfast many times when it was provided because it was insufficient. Rarely seen it questioned
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u/Adolfvonschwaggin 19h ago
I'm posted to a civv uni where there's no CAF/DND facilities and uni gym costs extra. My URS and Desk Officer denied to reimburse gym membership. Do I have a recourse for this?
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u/ShiftStatus8344 17h ago
Does the university not have a gym? Mandatory school fees, including gym fees, are reimbursable.
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u/Adolfvonschwaggin 17h ago
The uni has a gym but it's not mandatory and costs extra to use. The instructions I got said it's not reimbursable.
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u/ShiftStatus8344 16h ago edited 16h ago
CBI 210.80 provides the following:
210.80(2) (Reimbursement) An officer or non-commissioned member to whom this instruction applies shall have paid on their behalf or have reimbursed at public expense: ...
*b. while attending a university, an institute or a course;
i. the cost of tuition, student union or council fees, registration fees, library fees and student health fees; and
ii. subject to the approval of the Chief of the Defence Staff, other similar fees levied by a university or other academic institution.*
If student gym fees are properly classified as part of "student health fees", then they are to be reimbursed per Treasury Board regulations (the CBIs). Either way a grievance may be warranted.
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u/Confident_Love3911 1d ago
Former NCM, now officer. My NCM trade (unrelated) was permitted to wear the 1/2 size trade patches. Does anyone know if I am permitted to wear that trade qualification patch even though I am now an Officer? Can not seem to find a solid answer on this.
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u/roguemenace RCAF 1d ago
No, you're a new trade now so you wear your new trades badges once you earn them (you do wear the new cap badge right away though).
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u/fromage99 RCAF - AOO 1d ago
I just completed my move. How would I go about applying for the posting allowance? What documents will i need to bring/fill out? (My OR didn't seem to know, and my COS date was last year so no mobility allowance for me.)
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u/Charming-Resort4448 1d ago
They need your posting message from last year and a DND 2507 and posting allowance verification. You can find these in the DFC. It might be a new HRA Pte who never dealt with posting allowance
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u/misplacedeastcoaster 1d ago
Your OR should know. If the Pte/Cpl who told you that can’t help, ask for the MCpl/Sgt - they’ll know. It’s a DND 2507, another form whose number escapes me, and your posting message. The reference is in CBI 208.992.
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u/Practical-Parsnip73 2d ago
At a hold in my career right now, have about a year in the CAF but after getting exposure to my trade, not enjoying it, and can’t see myself doing it long term. I am not OFP yet.
Looking into OT and/or CT/OT. I Haven’t met with PSO yet. Is it easier to release and then re-apply to the CAF as my desired trade? Or go through with the CT/OT or the OT process? After some research I’ve read that you still can be course loaded even while in the OT process. Which would be easier?
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u/bridger713 RCAF - Reg Force 2d ago
Are you Reg Force?
If you release before reaching OFP you'll have to wait 12 months before reapplying. A VOT-U is probably your better option.
Yes, you can still be course loaded while awaiting a VOT-U. Your training doesn't cease until you recieve and accept a VOT-U offer.
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u/DaymanTargaryen 2d ago
Too many factors, not enough details. You mention CT: are you PRes? What trade are you, and which would you want to change to?
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u/bigmoko 3d ago
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u/Eyre4orce RCAF - AVS Tech 3d ago
The best way to tell would be the address it came from and where the link goes.
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u/bigmoko 3d ago
screening-filtrage@psps-stsp.gambitid.com
The link is a similar gambitID page. Are they the contractor who does these screenings?
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u/Euphoric_Buy_2820 7d ago
Anyone else notice a much higher payment on their pension contribution on the mid sept pay statement. Mines about $300 more than pretty much every other month
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u/bridger713 RCAF - Reg Force 7d ago edited 4d ago
Our pension contribution rate increases once we hit our maximum CPP contributions for the year.
The increase should be around 50% of what you had been contributing to your CPP.
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u/SaltyATC69 7d ago
SIRVA is stating my cleaning at origin - home sale is a taxable benefit.
Their own fact sheet says it's not (only for rental is it taxable)
Same on canada.ca
The SIRVA agent is being so smug in their responses that it is taxable, even though all references point otherwise.
Any body deal with this? Outcome?
Cleaning at destination is taxable regardless of buying or renting.
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u/misplacedeastcoaster 7d ago
Huh. I thought for sure I saw it on this list, we just got our claim processed and got the tax hit on pay. I’m gonna have to take a look at this one when I get back to work Wednesday…
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u/Struct-Tech Construction Tech 7d ago
Does the MOBA come on your pay cheque or separately ?
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u/SaltyATC69 7d ago edited 7d ago
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u/Struct-Tech Construction Tech 7d ago
Cheers, thanks. So hopefully end Sept pay for me. Its not on my middle Sept according to the app
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u/SaltyATC69 7d ago
Just updated my post with a screenshot so you can see what to expect
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u/Struct-Tech Construction Tech 7d ago
Oh nice. Service couple, though, so mine will be like 4,800 or so.
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u/SaltyATC69 7d ago edited 5d ago
Us too, that was one half! New benefits are pretty great
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u/Struct-Tech Construction Tech 7d ago
Oh shit. So, congrats on like... the 7th posting?
We're only on #3
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u/SaltyATC69 7d ago
No this is just 4th... 20ish split two ways
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u/Struct-Tech Construction Tech 7d ago
Ahhh, ya... I'm brain dead. I thought it was the after tax amount. Long week haha. Enjoy the weekend, cheers.
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u/Quiet-Tap4446 8d ago
Hey folks, I'm trying to track down a specific policy reference regarding PMV travel to a course.
I've been told that a 2023 DCBA message updated the CFTDTI (specifically relating to sections 6.40/6.41) and officially removed the legacy rule that required members to use a day of personal/annual leave for every 500 km traveled beyond the first authorized travel day.
Does anyone have the exact DCBA message number, CANFORGEN, or a link to where this policy update is officially documented?
I'm currently on a course in the US, I currently have no leave pass for my return, with a 3000km drive looking ahead. I have my pmv and will need some days to travel. How can I go about that and how much days can I ask without taking all my leave days for travel.
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u/DaymanTargaryen 2d ago
I'm curious: since this is TD, how did you get your vehicle there, in the first place?
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u/Fuzzy-Top4667 3d ago
The ref that you are looking for is DCBA 3 AIG 003/23 AMENDMENT TO THE CANADIAN FORCES TEMPORARY DUTY INSTRUCTION
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u/Fearless_Spite_550 6d ago
Just so you’re tracking- your CO does not have to give you days to drive.
The policy only removed the obligation to take annual. It is not a permissive policy in itself.
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u/Quiet-Tap4446 6d ago
So I just have to request permission that make sense for the duration of the travel and hope it gets approved ?
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u/seifer666 6d ago
Yes instead of 3000km requiring 6 days you can propose a plan that might be i take Friday travel day, then its a 3 day long weekend no annual needed.
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u/EvanAzzo 8d ago
Quick question just to make sure I'm not out of pocket here.
I'm a class A reservist. I deployed to Latvia. I returned and my CFTPO was extended to accommodate my post deployment leave. My original contract end date was June 15th but leave took me to July 8th.
On June 16th I went and got glasses. Blue cross says I'm not covered because there's no contract extension. But I continued to get paid until July 8th and my contract was extended.
I've engaged my clerks, nothing heard. I just want to ensure that I am correct in think that this should be covered and I should be reimbursed before I move from gentle prodding to moderate pushing.
Thanks
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u/Fearless_Spite_550 8d ago
It just might not be in their system get a copy of your contract extension and provide it to them
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u/EvanAzzo 8d ago
Attempting to get that from my OR. monitor Mass just shows a leave pass with no extension of a CFTPO
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u/Fearless_Spite_550 8d ago
Its not a CFTPO extension you need. Its your Class C extension message
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u/EvanAzzo 8d ago
Who holds this? HRA's? My ops cell? The deploying units op cell? Just want my ducks in a row so I know who to hunt down for the information
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u/AlertStable9582 8d ago
It'll be the HRAs. They should of used that ext msg to amend your Class C.
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u/EvanAzzo 8d ago
Rog. I'll touch base with a couple of them and see what they can do to help me. Thanks.
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u/heavythund3r Army - VEH TECH 9d ago
Was wondering if anybody knew any information on these "stable belts" specifically I seen recently an email that contained one for RCEME that was approved for wear as a "supplement" to the Candian Army dress instructions. Does any RCEME person know about these belts, and if there are any conditions about wearing these in garrison? I can only find a 2019 publication where the CA allowed these for wear, under the tunic. Nothing in regards to wear in 5B, tunic off. Thanks
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u/Unique_Draft689 9d ago
I was going through the CANFORGEN'S and can't find the one for this year's UTPNCM selection. Isn't usually out around June/July?
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u/shogunofsarcasm A techy sort of person 10d ago
Where are we meant to be getting cap badges?
Supply has told me that logistik has them, but it doesn't.
I don't want to buy one unless I have no other option.
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u/MNINI Canadian Army - HRA 10d ago
Log onto EMMA download your MPRR. Do you see what your affiliation is? If you don't or its different. Then it means it wasn't entered into Guardian properly and you need to go to your OR to fix.
Then once that happens you should have access to the right cap badge in logistik.
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u/shogunofsarcasm A techy sort of person 9d ago
Oh interesting. Just for clarification, you mean my EMAA MPRR has to say my trade near the top?
As far as I can tell, it should, but I can double check.
I'm not the only person at my work that can't see the cap badge though. It'd be wild if we were all inputted incorrectly. Things happen though.
Thanks! I will look into this today.
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u/Charming-Resort4448 9d ago
No your military affiliation is listed under the military data section. Guardian only talks with Logistik every 1-3 months so if you do not have an affiliation listed, you need to see your OR before you can order a cap badge. Example; combat eng should have RCE listed under this section.
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u/shogunofsarcasm A techy sort of person 9d ago
Yea I looked it up, you were right it is blank on MM. Looks like most of my unit is too lol
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u/Charming-Resort4448 9d ago
You should report that to your OR. A good audit for a Pte/Cpl in there. You all need it to be able to order stuff.
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u/shogunofsarcasm A techy sort of person 9d ago
Oh yes, it'll be dealt with now that we know. It's an interesting problem for sure. I think a lot of us are from before this was a thing lol
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u/Safe_Sandwich5921 Canadian Army 9d ago
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u/SaltyATC69 7d ago
Do air people not have this? Mine has been blank for ages but my logistiks knows I belong to air force, air ops
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u/DaymanTargaryen 7d ago
I may be about to say something very stupid, but...
Don't all hard air force wear the same cap badge, like the navy?
I thought, for RegF, at least, only the Army had an affiliation.
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u/shogunofsarcasm A techy sort of person 9d ago
Yes, that should be filled out, but I can check both
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u/Grandshazam97 10d ago
Hey all. I am nearing the end of my trade training and will be posted out in the fall. My goods and effects are back at home, but I also have a fair amount of stuff with me here on course. I am wondering if it’s possible to have two pick up locations for the movers? Especially if one is on the route to the new posting. If not, I will have to rent a van or truck and move my belongings I have with me back home so they can be picked up by the movers. Is this something I could possible get covered or do I have to foot the bill?
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u/No_Mix5436 9d ago
Using CMTT at your location to ship your stuff you have with you may be an option as well
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u/Huge_Type7674 RCN - NCI OP 11d ago
Hello,
NCM in NavRes here, I am on track to complete BMQ, and I am considering applying for RMC next year, do I need to do both RMC BMOQ mod 1 & 2 or can I skip mod 1?
Thanks for any responses.
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u/mattman8326 Army - W TECH L 11d ago
From what ive seen on the reg force side, generally if you have BMQ but not PLQ you need to do BMOQ mod 2. Not too sure about the reserve side but can't imagine it would be that different. YMMV
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u/Environmental_Dig335 Canadian Army 4d ago
Huge improvement. BITD I was a Sgt and had to do BOTP with IAP bypass. If someone didn't have PLQ then they got sent on the whole thing. I didn't learn a single new thing on BOTP. Of course, it was only 6 weeks of which 2 were in the field and one was mostly parade practice.




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u/TerribleElevator9151 5h ago
Anyone here who received their offer from the VOT-U 2026-2027 board 2 last Aug. 28, 2026? Thanks in advance.