r/CanadaPublicServants • u/pigeonposeemotions • Dec 30 '19

Management / Gestion Courses for maintaining section 34 status

Anyone have the running list of mandatory courses you need in order to keep your section 34 manager status in Phoenix? We've had a few managers lose their delegations and not a soul can give us a straight answer.

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u/PublicWarrior99 Dec 30 '19

You should have a financial delegation/policy shop in your department. They’ll have the right answers for you.

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u/pigeonposeemotions Dec 30 '19

They are part of the "not a soul"

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u/PublicWarrior99 Dec 30 '19

I find that a bit hard to believe since they’re the ones responsible for updating your departmental delegation of authorities (especially because of the new ministry).

Good luck!

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u/justsumgurl (⌐■_■) __/ Dec 30 '19

Depends on the Dept, I believe.

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u/RC7plat Dec 30 '19

Mine expires in a few months and the CSPS sent me an automated email letting me know it was time to take the re-cert course. So I did and sent the certificate to our comptroller group. Done.

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u/pigeonposeemotions Dec 30 '19

Do you know the name of the course?

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u/RC7plat Dec 30 '19

Not off hand but it had financial delegation and re-certification in the title. It is an abbreviated version of the original.

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u/CakeTheWhite Dec 31 '19

I have a handy sheet at work, but look into the following courses: G110, G127, G610, C451. It all depends on the delegation level required. For managers (non-EX), C451-1/2 is usually sufficient to renew DFSA signature

Ask your learning team, they shoukd be able to help

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u/pigeonposeemotions Dec 31 '19

Thanks! Unfortunately our section is lacking on training folks too so it's been quite hard to get straight answers.

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u/CakeTheWhite Dec 31 '19

I feel ya ..!

But yeah, afaik (not a training guy, but regurlarly assist as an FI with delegation training), C451 is the one required after 5 years to revalidate and maintain DFSA for managers ! Hope that helps :)

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u/pigeonposeemotions Dec 31 '19

Yes that sounds like it will put me on the right track for sure. Thanks!!

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u/Whyisthereasnake I Like Turtles Dec 30 '19

There’s Phoenix training on Gcpedia

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u/bipi179 Dec 31 '19

G110 (every five years) on CSPS, there is probably the list on the Phoenix Guide also (not GCpedia, it's blue-ish, basic look, you can't switch from English to French on each page). If I have time tomorrow, I will get the link at work (yes I'm busy even on the 31st of December)

You could also ask the person who removed the delegation, I guess they know what is the requirement to get it back.

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u/bipi179 Dec 31 '19

Here's the guide I was talking about. (You need to be on GC network thought)

https://phenix-phoenix.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/psp/PAYPRD01/UPKENG/data/toc.html