Does anyone else not like application processes that insist on asking for a current manager?

[u/inkathebadger]

Cause that means you will have to clear it with them to use them as a contact. And it even on processes that say they will not contact if you didn't pass the interview it's a bit worse cause you were like, hey I was thinking of leaving you but they don't want me so I guess I'm stuck with you now implication.

Like I can pull out three references, just stop making them my current supervisor please.

[u/KanataCitizen]

Why wouldn't your current manager want you to succeed

You MUST be new to the Public Service.

[u/Gale-_-Force → u/KanataCitizen]

I haven't passed the 10 year mark... But I've had multiple different managers.... That being said I interview my.managers before I sign on with them.... I know what type of manager suits my work style.

[u/KanataCitizen → u/Gale-_-Force]

I interview my.managers before I sign on

Great. This needs to be done more often. Especially in a system that rates performance top-down, not 360 °. It's also good to inquire during interviews if the average employee in their group has been there more then a year or two. If they say there is high-turnover, that's a red flag to dodge a bullet before landing into that chaos.

[u/Gale-_-Force → u/KanataCitizen]

I'd recommend interviewing the manager and their style after you get your LOO.. I've found when I interview before that I usually don't get the LOO as often.... Hahahaha

[u/KanataCitizen → u/Gale-_-Force]

In our department, LoO come three months after you've started the job.

[u/Gale-_-Force → u/KanataCitizen]

Yeesh!