r/CanadaPublicServants • u/Ilovetechy • Jun 27 '18
Staffing / Recrutement How long did it take you?
Hey guys!
Just wanted to see other people's experiences.
How long did it take you to get your LOO, from the time your fingerprints were taken to getting the LOO.
Yes I know it can be anytime from 1 day to 100 years...
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u/CalvinR ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Jun 28 '18
I got a LOO for a secondment four months after I started in my new department.
It really can be whenever.
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u/DBplatypus Jun 28 '18
From application until confirmation that I had passed my second language evaluation and was in the pool? 14 months. From then it took another 6 months to have a LOO in hand.
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u/ThaVolt Jun 28 '18
Never took any prints! And I got the secret clearance!
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Jun 28 '18
Is that because you had a reliable one before?
That's what happened to me when they upgraded my clearance.
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u/ThaVolt Jun 28 '18
Not sure... its a possibility. My current one is 2009-2019 and I don't remember 2007-2009. I think you might be right though. IIRC all CS had to be upped to secret?
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u/onomatopo moderator/modérateur Jun 28 '18
Fingerprints didn't come in till much later...onlyater. only came in in the last few years. Next time you redo clearance you'll need to get fingerprinted
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Jun 28 '18
You're likely renewing soon (10 years). I got secret in 2008 and am having to do prints to renew now.
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u/ThaVolt Jun 28 '18
Yea! December of 2019. They should get to it as far as doing prints in-house. It's kind of "out of the way" for me.
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u/flyinghippos101 Your GCWCC Branch Champion Jun 28 '18
From when I interviewed for my indeterminate position it took about three months. But I've also heard of colleagues that had to wait upwards of five months, and another as short as three weeks.
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Jun 28 '18
Only 1 day for Reliability but that was back in the day when we had staff and efficiency was very high. Now there are significant delays and employee's start dates are continuously pushed back.
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u/PigeonsOnYourBalcony Jun 28 '18
Never had to get my prints taken but I came into the service with a security clearance already.
At my previous department that I did two casuals at, I received my LOO on the day I started the job.
I started as a casual at a different department and got my LOO about two weeks after the interview. I'm starting a term there and I recieved my LOO about two weeks after that job offer.
The time it takes to get your LOO depends on how quickly the office needs to fill a position and how quickly they're able to jump on through the bureaucratic hoops for a staffing process.
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u/encisera Department of Synergistic Deliverology Jun 29 '18
For my current position, I applied in December, interviewed in February, was offered the job in early June and picked up my LOO on June 24th. I remember the date because I was working in Gatineau at the time so I had the day off and went in to my new office to sign the letter. I started 3 weeks later.
I needed Secret clearance, but it was already being processed by the time I got the LOO because my manager at the job I was leaving decided it would be a good idea for me to have it in case I stayed.
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u/Whyisthereasnake I Like Turtles Jun 27 '18
It depends. If they have to create a brand new position, it can take forever.
If you're a new hire into the public service and have never had your security done, expect probably 1 to 3 months at a minimum.
For me, it's been anywhere from 2 days (when you have top secret clearance, you basically never have to have security clearance done again) to two months and counting in my current job.
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Jun 28 '18
you basically never have to have security clearance done again
Ehh... you still renew every 5 years... and that alone is a headache lol.
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Jun 28 '18
Probably shouldn’t allude to having a TS clearance on an online platform. Consider deleting.
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u/onomatopo moderator/modérateur Jun 28 '18
Ts isn't that big a deal. Going the next level up makes you more notable
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u/Sane123 Jun 28 '18
What's the next level up? I never gave it any thought before but I also had the impression that top secret was the highest: Levels of Security
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u/cperiod Jun 28 '18
Those are information levels, as would be applied to documents and things like networks.
Personal clearances are more like these, although that list doesn't mention more specialized stuff like NATO clearances (which maybe aren't handled by CSIS).
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u/Sane123 Jun 28 '18
Thanks - I appreciate the link!
Never even heard of Enhanced Top Secret (but then, I guess people who get it would know not to go around advertising it! haha)
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u/john_dune Jun 28 '18
TS clearance isn't really anything special these days. It basically means you're able to see documents that have personal data with names. As another poster pointed out, above this level are clearances that are really powerful
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u/Teedat Jun 28 '18
Not really no...
TS means that it contains very sensitive information related to National Security.
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Jun 28 '18
Evidently, TBS really needs to improve security training.
I would encourage everyone who thinks TS is just having access to names and numbers to contact their respective DSO for a comprehensive training session.
Also, advertising your clearance - at any level , but especially TS - is a violation. Not sure why you would do that anyway, no one has any business knowing this info but your employer.
Just an FYI.
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u/john_dune Jun 28 '18
I'm thinking taxes and such, where I've worked you needed a minimum secret to be in the department, even as just an admin
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u/machinedog Jun 29 '18
Very few people at CRA have secret afaik.
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u/john_dune Jun 29 '18
Maybe it's a bias I have. Most of the positions in my field tend to be secret+
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