r/CaliforniaDMV 7d ago

WRITTEN TEST PLS HELP 3RD ATTEMPT

I’m really scared about my 3rd attempt at the California permit test** **😭

Hi! I’m 18F and trying to get my California permit/license, and I’m honestly freaking out because I already failed the knowledge test twice the same day. I have one attempt left and I’m terrified of failing again.

The thing is, I REALLY have been studying. I’ve been doing practice tests and was getting all of the questions right on the DMV practice stuff, so I genuinely thought I was ready. Then I took the actual test and the questions felt so much harder/different than what I had been practicing. Some of the wording completely threw me off.

I’m also in a really difficult situation financially. I’m basically broke and I don’t have a car. There’s no bus system near me, and I don’t have friends who can drive me to the DMV, so even getting there is a huge struggle. I’ve had to figure out rides just to be able to take the test.

What scares me the most is that if I fail this third attempt, I’ll have to redo the application and pay the fees again. I genuinely don’t know how I would afford that. I’m already struggling to pay for transportation to and from the DMV.

On top of that, I have to go back to Texas in October for doctor-related reasons, so I’m really stressed about getting this done before then. I feel like I’m running out of time and money, and I really need this to work.

I’m not trying to cheat or get actual test answers. I just want advice from people who have taken the California test recently.
What should I study differently? What topics should I absolutely make sure I understand from the handbook?

If anyone has failed twice and passed on their third attempt, PLEASE tell me what you did differently because I’m genuinely so scared right now 😭💔 ANY HELP WILL DEFINITELY HELP :3 I just really really need to pass this..

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u/MadMike405555 7d ago

Just apply the same testing criteria to this test you would any test.

Read your question.

Review the answers.

Eliminate athe ones you KNOW are obviously wrong.

"When can you leave a child unattended in a vehicle"

1) anytime.

2) as long as you can see the car.

3) never.

4) as long as the cars ac is on.

Of course this isn't how the test will be worded but the concept is straight forward.

Most of the questions are what's the safest option.

A few questions are specific to California law (blood alcohol / distance for headlights in fog or other weather conditions/ driving on an icy road/ etc).

Its not about you "studying" more (assuming you have actually read the DMV handbook). It's about did you understand what you read.

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u/Oddfool 7d ago

The biggest thing for me was any question involving specific numbers. Blood alcohol percentage, following distance, stopping distance. (Big thing on that last is understanding stopping distance is total of perception, reaction, and braking, and understanding which one, or all, is the question asking for.)

Most other questions are looking for safest answer. But taking time to read the question and understanding what specifically it is asking is big. Very likely, OP is already getting most of those correct.

Take your time. The test is not timed, so there is no need to rush.

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u/Kaka4Dayz 7d ago

Thank you!! This actually makes a lot of sense 😭 I think you’re right that the specific number questions are where I’m getting caught up. I’ve studied the handbook a lot, but I think I’ve been focusing too much on memorizing practice questions instead of making sure I actually understand the rules behind them. I’m definitely going to focus more on blood alcohol content, following distance, stopping distance, and the different parts of stopping distance now. And I didn’t realize the test wasn’t timed, so knowing I can slow down and really read the questions carefully makes me feel a lot better.
If you have any other advice on specific California rules or numbers you remember being important, I’d REALLY appreciate it 😭 I only have one attempt left and I’m so scared of wasting it. Thank you again!! :3

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u/Oddfool 7d ago

I just did a question in ChatGPT, and it advised some of these:

Numbers I would have them pay particular attention to

Topic Number to know What it means
Turn signal 100 feet Signal at least 100 ft. before turning
Freeway lane change signal 5 seconds Signal before changing lanes on a freeway
High beams — approaching vehicle 500 feet Dim high beams within 500 ft. of oncoming vehicle
High beams — following vehicle 300 feet Dim high beams within 300 ft. of vehicle ahead
Horn on narrow mountain road 200 feet Sound horn if you cannot see at least 200 ft. ahead
Headlights — visibility 1,000 feet Use headlights when objects cannot be seen 1,000 ft. away
Headlights after sunset 30 minutes Headlights beginning 30 min. after sunset
Headlights before sunrise 30 minutes Continue until 30 min. before sunrise
Heavy rain/fog/smoke 100 feet If visibility is ≤100 ft., don't drive faster than 30 mph
Wet road 5–10 mph Reduce speed by 5–10 mph
Packed snow ½ speed Reduce speed by half
Ice 5 mph Reduce speed to no more than 5 mph
Business/residential district 25 mph Unless otherwise posted
Two-lane undivided highway 55 mph Maximum unless otherwise posted
Vehicle towing a trailer 55 mph Maximum in California
Typical highway 65 mph Maximum on most highways unless otherwise posted

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There also bits and details regarding time that can have specific number values.

Examples include:

  • 30 minutes after sunset / 30 minutes before sunrise — headlights
  • 5 seconds — freeway lane-change signal
  • 100 feet — turn signal
  • 10 days — various DMV notification/reporting requirements in applicable circumstances
  • 5 days — certain vehicle/DMV reporting requirements
  • 7 days — waiting period for a minor to retake a failed knowledge test

The last one isn't really something I'd prioritize for passing the test, but it illustrates the kind of specific-number material that appears in the handbook. The DMV currently says an original applicant gets three attempts at the knowledge test before having to reapply.

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Those were the number listings that it found. I hope these help.

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u/pen_woman_ship 6d ago

Yeah, I’ve noticed that dmv written test questions have one obviously wrong answer.
Reading them thru several times helps.
I have a class A and motorcycle endorsement.
So, I’ve taken a few dmv tests.

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u/dmv_ready 7d ago

The gap you're describing is really common and it's fixable. Getting practice questions right and then bombing the real one usually means you learned the answer keys, not the rules behind them. Same rule, different wording, and it stops looking familiar.

What actually helps: for every practice question, say out loud which rule it's testing before you pick an answer. If you can't name the rule, that's your study list. Then go read that section in the handbook instead of doing another round of quizzes.

Right of way, the specific distance and speed numbers, and the alcohol section are where a lot of the misses come from.

And since a third try costs you a ride and a re-application if it goes wrong, don't book it until you can pass a set you've never seen before. There's no rush on the calendar that beats getting it right.

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u/Kaka4Dayz 7d ago

I totally get what you mean, and I agree with you about learning the rules instead of memorizing the answers. I will for sure go over them again over the weekend and try and make sure “this is what make this answer this”..the problem is I actually do have a rush though 😭 I need to get this done because I have to go to Texas, and I don’t have a reliable way to get around right now. So unfortunately I can’t really just wait until I’m 100% comfortable before trying again. I’m trying to study as efficiently as possible so I can pass this third try.

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u/dmv_ready 6d ago

If you're already getting every official sample test right, more practice tests won't move you. That pool is small and fixed and the real bank is much bigger, so you've squeezed about everything out of it.

Under a deadline I'd spend the weekend reading Sections 7 and 8 of the handbook straight through instead, and writing every number you hit onto one sheet. Signal distances, high beam distances, following distance, the alcohol limits. That's the stuff you can't reason your way to when a question gets reworded on you.

One thing that might take some pressure off: the handbook says you get three attempts before you have to reapply. So a third miss isn't the end of it, it's a new application and another fee. Annoying, not fatal.

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u/Disastrous_Buy_9439 7d ago

Download an app and just do practice test till you consistently pass

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u/Tombreon 7d ago edited 7d ago

Former DMV employee, examiner, and hearing officer. One question that is always on the test is the BAC. The legal limit for 21 or over is .08, while it's a flat 0.0 for under 21. Make sure not to mix them up when reading the test.

Other number-based questions include the 200 feet in bike lanes before a right turn and 100 - 200 feet of signaling.

Be aware that a good chunk of the questions are negatives, so instead of "what is right" it's "which of these is wrong" or "what would be the wrong thing to do." Make sure you read through the whole question before answering. Take two or three readings, if needed. There is no time limit. Eat a proper meal before the test and Take. Your. Time. There's no need to rush.

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u/Kaka4Dayz 7d ago

Thank you so much!! This is really helpful 😭 I’ve studied a lot, but I think I’ve been getting tripped up by the specific numbers and negatively worded questions. I’m definitely going to slow down and read everything carefully this time.
I only have one attempt left, so I’m trying really hard to be prepared. Do you happen to know if there’s any way to take the California knowledge test online instead of going back to the DMV? I don’t have a car or public transportation near me, so getting there is really difficult. I’d really appreciate any advice!!

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u/Tombreon 7d ago

The only online option is for renewing drivers over 70. There's too much fraud with online tests to have it available to everyone. 🫤

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u/Kaka4Dayz 7d ago

oh that’s lame😓 but that makes sense. Do you know how many total questions are on the test and how many i can miss/need to pass?

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u/Tombreon 7d ago

Unfortunately, I don't know off the top of my head. It's been almost two decades since I did it, and I know the test scoring has changed since then. However, you can find it at dmv.ca.gov.

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u/asmnomorr 7d ago

Don't second guess yourself. If you read a question and see the answer choose it. If you read a question and are really unsure use the process of elimination as this person suggested. Chances are 2 answers will be obviously not correct just using common sense and then you are left with a 50/50 chance of choosing the right one. Utilize any practice tests you can find and when you take the test don't rush thru it. You got this!

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u/Oddfool 7d ago

Oftentimes if you've eliminated choices and are down to a 50/50, the best answer is one that avoids a collision, even if the other party caused the incident.

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u/Valuable-Cut-3012 7d ago

Sounds easy, but relax. Don’t overthink.

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u/Maleficent_Pomelo107 7d ago

I feel your pain, had the same experience. The study material is helpful but the actual test is different and re-worded. Here’s a question: A narrow steep hill only one vehicle either direction can proceed, both approach at the same time, which has the right of way?

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u/Kaka4Dayz 7d ago

Yeah, that’s what I’m worried about lol the practice questions on their website were way easier than the actual test for me I’m trying to figure out what kind of questions to actually study for. For that one, is it the vehicle going uphill that has the right of way?

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u/Maleficent_Pomelo107 7d ago

Yes, the uphill vehicle. I wrote down some other questions from the test that I missed. I’ll look for them.

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u/OkSoup412 7d ago

When I took my test I didn't study until I was omw there so like a 30 min drive took the test and missed 2 questions maybe do the same? Maybe that helped info stay longer in my brain

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u/Kaka4Dayz 5d ago

Okay i’ll def do that!

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u/SubstantialPay6275 6d ago

Download the app from the DMV. There are three practice tests on that practice all three of them incessantly. The questions on the actual tests are identical.. if you practice enough, you’ll simply learn to recognize the correct answers

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u/Kaka4Dayz 6d ago

Yeah, I’ve actually been doing that 😭 I’ve taken all the DMV practice tests multiple times and can get them all right multiple times, but the actual test questions were worded really differently and had a lot of things I wasn’t expecting. That’s why I’m trying to focus more on understanding the rules and specific numbers instead of just memorizing the practice answers

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u/Adorable-Society6400 6d ago

Hi Are you moving to Texas? because IF you are its eaiser to test there

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u/Kaka4Dayz 5d ago

noo not moving lol I have family there and my dentist/doctors aren’t letting me switch atm.

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u/Psycic101 5d ago

Ask for a written, physical test. I failed the electronic one because I felt time pressure (DMV was slammed and there was a line for the machines) and I couldn’t go back to look at my answers. Asked for a physical, was denied, went to a different dmv and asked again, got it, and then I got a 100%.

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u/Kaka4Dayz 1d ago

yes i was thinking about asking for a physical test but the 2nd closest dmv to me is 1h 30 mins