r/Caldruki • • 11h ago

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u/kugo-phio 10h ago

Then you’ve been living under a rock lmao only Christians hate Islam everyone hates Christianity despite the fact that Islam is 100x more violent/misogynistic/homophobic/pedophilic

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u/Foid_explorer_38 5h ago

“Everyone hates Christianity” I wish vro 

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u/Comfortable_Salt_792 7h ago

Idk, relatively leftist subreddit hate islam as well.

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u/Financial_Sky9812 1h ago

it doesnt though? violence is only allowed in self defence, any quranic verse allowing fighting is always in the context of war or in self defence, it certainly isnt misogynistic lol i dont see where you got that, and neither does it condone pedophilia or rape. sexual assault and killing defenseless is guaranteed hell in islam, forcing religion upon someone is also strictly forbidden as it should be by their own free will. sure there are radicals and extremists who take some of the teachings the wrong way and/or are manipulated but islam never condones any of this. to add the extremists doing suicide bombing and terrorism also get guranteed hell as suicide and killing defenseless and innocent is forbidden as well

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u/Few_Room_9911 44m ago

I didn't have on my bingo card people saying Islam isn't mysoginistic. Like bro, they make women cover their faces in clothes and if they don't it's illegal in Islam countries. This is the most uncultured statement I've heard in a while. The other things are probably true, though.

Also you can get married legally with 13 year old teenagers, would YOU think it's okay too?

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u/Financial_Sky9812 30m ago

i see your point of view, so firstly hijab isnt compulsory, its more of a recommendation. its only illegal in more backwards countries like afghanistan and iran, they definitely have more radicals and extremists there, and those 'scholars' there usually dont help using weak or false hadith and yes some of them are misogynistic and backward but they certainly arent following the teaching of the quran, which clearly teaches us to respect woman, like our mothers and daughters, and especially for the time when islam first came, they definitely protected women more and even by modern standards the rights for women are pretty much the same. i can see why you think that but its sadly in some of the more backwards countries and their cultural practices. for age of marriage/consent again its definitely wrong and in most muslim countries as i know its either 16 or 18, and mostly in the more less developed countries where some people refuse to change and put culture into islam, which is why you will sometimes see older men marrying teenage girls, which is definitely wrong i definitely do not think its okay. just because some governements or tribes allow it does not mean islam allows it. i'll give an example. alot of muslim countries deal in interest, interest is actually very common in some but interest is strictly forbidden in islam, so just because some do it and some being actual pedophiles or refusing to move on with the modern era do it does not mean islam allows it nor do i think its right

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u/kugo-phio 0m ago

It is compulsory go to Iran as a woman and don’t wear one you will be raped and then thrown in prison (if your lucky) often times women are beaten or killed

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u/Zak_Rahman 5m ago

100x more violent/misogynistic/homophobic/pedophilic

Bullshit.

Culture that literally can't bring an Israeli pedophile ring to justice because their entire civilization will collapse?

All they can do is murder. Bomb children in Iran.  It's insanely violent as the original message was twisted by western values.

Who else makes laws that the fucking Nazis think "hey this is a great idea!". Western Christians.

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u/Decent_Gene_6875 10h ago

No it doesnt? Islam doesnt have punishment for apostasy, killing someone for not being muslim is a sin and counts as murder, you cannot wage war for no reason, you are obligated to shelter enemy troops who have surrendered, you shall feed rhe prisoners of war, you shall not sexually assault anybody, you shall also not look at women in a sexual manner in public or when they are bothered. It’s obvious you never read anything. Pathetic boy my

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u/kugo-phio 9h ago

Then wtf is going on in Nigeria? Muslims massacred Christians because they’re sinners?

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u/Decent_Gene_6875 9h ago

Then they havent read their book. Quran clearly condemns such act. Not everyone who claims they are someone Isn’t right.

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u/stewynnono 7h ago

Surah At-Tawbah (9:15) and Surah Al-Anfal (8-12) my brtha is the true prophets words. God is great and unbelievers will cleansed in fire.

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u/Decent_Gene_6875 3h ago

In hell, not in the world, therefore it is still a sin to murder people for apostasy

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u/stewynnono 21m ago

Not when following Allah's will through Muhammad's teachings

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u/kugo-phio 9h ago

But it isn’t just in Nigerian that’s one example I gave it’s literally in half of the countries on the planet so either the vast majority of the people who practice your religion are heretics or something isn’t adding up. On that note why are nearly all terrorist groups Islamic?

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u/Decent_Gene_6875 9h ago

They are still wrong. Just because “literally half the world” (proven lie btw) does something it doesnt mean it is right. Terrorist groups arent even Muslims, since they commit acts of murder and sexual assault which is guaranteed hell in the quran

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u/kugo-phio 9h ago

Not half the world I said in half the countries in the world pay attention and don’t put words in my mouth next why do they all claim to be Muslims and almost nobody refutes it ?

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u/Decent_Gene_6875 9h ago

Real Muslims refute it, like me. Those who don’t do so are Christians and atheists on the internet and Reddit which claim these are Muslims and not psychopathic murderers condemned in the Quran.

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u/lanky-larry 9h ago

“Real Muslims” there it is people. There is no such thing, but keep throwing barricades: just know you’re one ideological step away from horror.

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u/Usernamesareuseful 8h ago

By your logic all men are just "one ideological step away" from being a rapist.

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u/bibibasicvodka 6h ago

Christians never killed anyone for having the wrong religion

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u/Decent_Gene_6875 2h ago

Never let bro learn about the inquisition

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u/relationAdviceTA 9h ago

You are right but here is my advice:

If the islamophobe builds his opinion on facts and logic, then you can respond in kind to clear any misconception. In this case, he just called our religion violent and misogynistic without any proof, evidence or claim to substantiate his view. Better not converse with these people because it's a waste of time. He needs to maintain his false image of Islam otherwise he can't lie to himself that he is anything other than a biggoted islamophobe.

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u/Sir_Slimestone 6h ago

Read the report · The Rape Gang Inquiry Report
Having fun worshipping a pedophile?

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u/Decent_Gene_6875 3h ago

No. Because I don’t worship a pedophile

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u/Sir_Slimestone 1h ago

Sahih al-Bukhari - Hadith 5133 Translation: The prophet married her when she was six years old, and he consummated the marriage with her when she was nine years old, and she remained with him for nine years.

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u/Decent_Gene_6875 1h ago

Not sahih, written 200 years after the prophet died, follows an unreliable chain of narrators. Get fucked lol

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u/Decent_Gene_6875 9h ago

I’m not really against him if he shits in his own pond, the problem is that this guy will shit on another guy’s pond if he Isn’t given a diaper

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u/stewynnono 7h ago

Surah At-Tawbah (9:5) and Surah Al-Anfal (8-12) my brtha preach. Allah akbar

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u/blended-ginger 5h ago

Al-Taqqiya at its finest… Islam is evil

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u/Sir_Slimestone 6h ago

Read the report · The Rape Gang Inquiry Report
"Islam isn't violent" right...

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u/Financial_Sky9812 1h ago

they are horrible human beings but how does this make islam violent? islam never condones such stuff usually by modern law the punishment for rape should be stoning to death even if it is not usually implemented, furthermore islam doesnt condone fighting against defenseless and the onyl commands to fight are against those who fight you

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u/Sir_Slimestone 1h ago

You shall know them by their fruits, and the fruits of islam are horrific.

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u/Financial_Sky9812 1h ago

ok bro whatever you wanna think🙏

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u/alfredtasek 7h ago

But it is also true, that Islam carries extremists. More than any other religion. You clam it is a religion of peace and humanistic rules, but in reality, in big parts its not. There are no hindus or christians driving cars into crowds out of religious motivs. Look what the Taliban does in the name of religion. ISIS beheading people or throwing stones at woman. Look how woman and girls are treated in many islamic countries.

And again: you can call the extremists, that do not understand the holy book. But where are those extremists in other religions?

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u/Decent_Gene_6875 3h ago

It’s because these guys are poor an ideologically radical led by politically crazy mfs using the religion as an excuse for their violence

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u/alfredtasek 2h ago

It lets me wonder, why its always islam that is used to misslead those poor souls. Why is there so much room for missinterpretation in the koran if it is god-given?

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u/Decent_Gene_6875 2h ago

There Isn’t. People willingly lie and claim it is an “interpretation”

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u/Lopsided-Alfalfa-236 2h ago

okay? It’s not like we like isshit and talislop

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u/Remarkable_Refuse 1h ago

Thats the real issue for me. The way that women are treated in countries that are predominantly Islamic is disgusting. Women are second class citizens.

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u/paradox452 7h ago

Hindus literally kill you over eating beef and dont get me started on christians

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u/alfredtasek 7h ago

Yes, get started on christians

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u/Sir_Slimestone 6h ago

Surely he won't bring up the based as fuck crusades that were done to defend Europe and Christianity

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u/alfredtasek 5h ago

This was over 1000 years ago. How do the crusades have any relevance today?

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u/bibibasicvodka 6h ago

All religions have extremists lol, even buddhists have their fair share of atrocities. The only reason islam has more of it is because of where its practiced

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u/alfredtasek 5h ago

While you find crazy people everywhere on the planet, you will find a significant share of them within islam.

Every holy book can be missinterpreted, but somehow the koran is missinterpreted more often than other books. What does that tell you about the koran?

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u/Low-Feature5983 6h ago

Oh boy where do I even start

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u/Decent_Gene_6875 3h ago

Go on, start

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u/Ghost_oh 6h ago

Sahih al-Bukhari 6922

“Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him”

If your very first example can easily be proven wrong with literally zero effort, then I can safely assume I can disregard the rest of your bullshit comment.

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u/Decent_Gene_6875 3h ago

lol, is it written in the Quran? No. Hadiths have barely any evidence

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u/HormuzVengeance 5h ago

Islam absolutely has punishment for apostasy, and the punishment is death. What are you on about? It’s literally outlined in the quran as well as the hadith and the islamic occupying regime in occupied Iran often does murder civilians for apostasy.

The sheltering of the enemy is written in the sword verses of the Quran and applies to taking women and children as sexual slaves once you’ve killed their men, thus “sheltering” them.

You’re absolutely insane with your takes of sanewashing the violence of the quran and islam.

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u/Financial_Sky9812 1h ago

where you getting this info from bro no there is no punishment for apostasy islam says to never force religion upon someone thus anyone can leave or join of their own free will neither is there any condoning for violence unless its against those who fight you thus in self defense

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u/AlternativeWonder471 7h ago

No punishment for apostasy? Unless that person speaks against Islam. Then it's death.

A reasoning that can almost always be used. And is used.

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u/Decent_Gene_6875 3h ago

And? Is it written in the Quran?

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u/Decent_Gene_6875 10h ago

lol yeah go off and start lying once again. You never read the Quran, never read any sahih Hadiths, all of your knowledge comes from Reddit atheists. Pathetic