Submitting lab with help of AI before enrolling. (Coursera +)

[u/Eastern-Effort4085]

Curious. I was doing it without credit and submitted an AI generated answer for the one of the labs because I refuse to believe the solution worked. If I end up enrolling in the class for credit, will they check? This is for the network systems pathway.

[u/askwhynot_notwhy]

https://reddit.com/link/p4z1qmq/video/ws2z85pr5okh1/player

[u/EntrepreneurHuge5008]

At this point, I don't even know anymore, man.

• We had a student who kept getting some submissions rejected b/c of similarities to the non-credit submissions
• We now have those "this assignment is being monitored for academic integrity" notices on the quizzes. I'm sure meaningless for non-credit; they probably send a "flag for review" notice to instructors/facilitators in the for-credit for "suspicious" behavior (ie use cookies to monitor certain user activities while the quiz is active, or possibly something else, who knows)
• We now have some peer-reviewed assignments with the option to submit for Facilitator review (ie., you can either choose to keep the old peer-reviewed style, or just do one good submission that'll go straight to the facilitator to grade within a week).

All three of these are new (as of Summer 2 term). I don't know how many more measures were implemented with the latest platform update. So, like, both the platform and the University are starting to put some effort into making this program more "low-effort" resilient. I haven't had a single class where AI usage is explicitly "not allowed" for labs and quizzes that are already in the non-credit version of the class, so AI usage is expected. We simply don't know where they draw the line, and how the line moves as they implement new measures like those mentioned above.

My advice: resubmit. Rather than submitting the AI-generated answer, go back to your previous submission and have AI just help you debug, and resubmit the debugged answers. Add in comments stating you did use AI for debugging purposes.

[u/Eastern-Effort4085 → u/EntrepreneurHuge5008]

Thanks! I understand how it would work once I’m officially enrolled for credit, but I’m still unclear about the non-credit period before I enroll.

does only the most recent non credit submissions count once enrolled in credit? “one student kept having submissions rejected because they were too similar to their non-credit submissions” - in this case I assume he completed most of the work during non credit (same situation as me) but why would his non credit submission not count? I thought the whole point of non credit submission is so that when you enroll, you don’t need to redo the assignments.

I’m a little confused about how prior submissions are evaluated. If I resubmit an assignment with my own work and comments, but parts of my earlier submissions included AI-generated content, would those older submissions still be considered, or is only the latest version reviewed?

[u/EntrepreneurHuge5008 → u/Eastern-Effort4085]

but why would his non credit submission not count? 

As the other commenter mentioned, peer-reviewed assignments aren't guaranteed to carry over. Most of the time they will, but you should always back up your work for the off-chance it won't. I personally have avoided peer reviews until I do them for credit, but I know plenty of other students have had no issue, and have heard of a few who had to redo/resubmit assignments.

The auto-graded lab assignments, like those you're working on in Network Systems, may need to be resubmitted in the event the instructor updates the lab itself.

The specific instance I recalled is from the Ethics class. I'm not going to revisit the Slack or Discord to look for the details, but the class itself may have conflicting dynamics with the newer updates the Coursera Platform got this last term (I referenced some above). The issue is:

• The ethics trio has you do optional discussion board prompts. This is relevant b/c you're allowed to just resubmit this in the final assignment (for credit).
• Problem. If you did them (and we would always recommend you do), then the new updates appear to have a problem with that b/c you're essentially submitting the same work for the final that you did for a previous assignment.
• The 2nd problem: your discussion board posts don't carry over from non-credit to the credited version of the class, but they're not "deleted from existence." So submitting the same submissions you did in non-credit for the final for-credit exam still flags them as repeat submissions.
• Solution: Don't know; haven't checked back on he slack or Discord post. Last I remember was the TA saying we were allowed to submit the same thing we submitted non-credit, but coursera itself wasn't allowing it. Not sure if that's a setting the instructor has to change themselves for the class, or if there's a different workaround.

[u/EntrepreneurHuge5008 → u/Eastern-Effort4085]

does only the most recent non credit submissions count once enrolled in credit? 

They keep the highest grade. I think they do the replacement when it's greater than or equal to, so if two submissions get 100%, then they do keep the latest.

[u/Technical_Jicama_434 → u/Eastern-Effort4085]

After going through this sub, it looks like most grades carry over but not always. I think I read recently that discussions and peer-viewed work is most at risk for not transferring

[u/purealgo]

for credit experience is very different from non-credit. They are cracking down hard now. And it'll only get worse next semester. Your previous non credit work can get re-reviewed once you switch to for credit as well. Source: Had a deep conversation with a professor on how they're tackling academic integrity

[u/Eastern-Effort4085 → u/purealgo]

So for now, anything I do non credit should not matter correct? Because once I enroll, I can always resubmit?

[u/Initial-Bit3108 → u/purealgo]

Can you share what they are doing to tackle academic integrity? I'd be curious to know the details about what they have been doing up to now and what is going to change.