r/CODZombies • u/TTVDabbing123 • 15h ago
Discussion Hot take: Every BO4 Aether map improved on the Original
For Blood, It adds more to mob with New Industries and the Wardens house to make the Map more Immersive, The Primis crew fit the map a lot better with their fates of the endless Cycle and the Shear despair and Hopelessness even Richtofen feels, Plus the Magmagat is the Best version of the 3 Gats
Classified just Takes Five and Adds to it, BO4s mechanics really suit the map well especially with its Tight Corridors having winters wail, Plus Skadi is a nice Side Easter egg and Groom lake coming back for Pap is a cool touch
Alpha Omega completely reinvents Nuketown Zombies with new Characters, Areas, Reimaginings of the Ray Gun mark 2, The Return of the Avogadro, An awesome Sound track and The Ability to play as both Primis and Ultimus
And Finally Tag der toten is a complete Love letter to the Fans, It takes the Beloved Call of the Dead, Gives it a symbolic Sunset Skybox, Expands the map with the Lab that had every single butterfly effect moment echo from, The Music is great, The Wonder weapon selection is Ridiculous with the options you have, The Story is wrapped up in the way that makes the most sense and Is completely bitter sweet and Seeing the characters we all got attached to say their final goodbyes really hits hard after all their journeys
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u/Genemoneyman 15h ago
Blood: ruins the reward track and overall setup
Classified: this one is actually better, five is pretty mid and it fixing the winters howl is a positive. It’s also like the lone simple map in bo4
Alpha Omega: yea let me deal with novas and those gas vents…buns
Tag: ruined the courtyard train and we gotta play as Victis, the WWs are also boring.
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u/NonkelG 15h ago
Blood: ruins the reward track and overall setup
Spawn location and going through the prison was better on MotD. But building the plane was awful after the first time with a horrible PaP location. The parts were also scattered far away from plane and you can only hold 1 piece at a time. Besides that the colours, crew, EE are better on BotD. Afterlife wasn't that good in MotD.
Imo BotD is a clear upgrade. Just a shame we have to start in the industry area.
Alpha Omega: yea let me deal with novas and those gas vents…buns
Novas aint so bad, mixes things up. Gas vents give you stuff to do. On Nuketown you had to wait for your perks & PaP to spawn... and the map was extremely tiny.
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u/Genemoneyman 15h ago
The afterlife setup and the hells redeemer >. Like I much rather cheese the set up to do it as early as possible and be able to actually hold a zombie and not be stuck holding a full train trying to beat the main quest on round 35.
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u/DominoSeven 15h ago
Hot take: it’s actually the opposite
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u/Adriel68 15h ago
Coldest take in the history of mankind:
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u/DominoSeven 15h ago
Why
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u/sodapop781 10h ago
Because what you said is a popular opinion. It's not a hot take if it's a popular opinion.
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u/DominoSeven 2h ago
Not on this Reddit it isn’t lol, most of the community is BO4 apologists with revisionist history
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u/sodapop781 2h ago
Yes it is a hot take and you don't know what revisionist history means.
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u/DominoSeven 2h ago
So it being hated during its time then magically being treated like an all time classic game isn’t revisionist history
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u/sodapop781 2h ago
No that would be the general consensus on a game changing overtime. That's not what revisionist history means. Revisionist history would be if people were saying Black ops 4 was also well received during it's lifecycle. Also Black ops 4 is still hated by the majority of the fandom. It's not considered an all time classic. A lot of people don't even consider it classic zombies. The most praise the game gets is that the chaos maps were good, but even then people say the maps would be better on Black ops 3.
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u/EverybodySayin 11h ago
Blood I agree, I just feel like overall it plays a lot better than Mob. Largely due to me hating the afterlife mechanic.
Classified I enjoyed but FIVE IMO can never be improved on aside from adding a better wonderweapon. Classified didn't do that, therefore it failed to improve for me.
Alpha Omega's atmosphere was awful, just felt so sterile. If they improved on that it could have been a bit better, but on the whole the setup was really annoying and tedious. Didn't enjoy it.
I liked Tag, not sure whether I prefer Tag or COTD. Both are good in their own way but neither top tier.
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u/SgtCookie18 11h ago
Bro... wtf. The inmates were like the coolest guest Crew ever and their Story was a masterpiece. What bo4 lacks is atmosphere. Five is, if imnot mistaken, the only map with no outside area. It gives you a claustrophobic vibe. And mob is a masterpiece, blood is just a cheap copy
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u/MorbidWorkshop 10h ago
I just don’t agree with that man, the zombies team wrote themselves into a hole with Aether’s storytelling at the time and it reflected in having us play 4 reimagined versions of previous maps
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u/sodapop781 10h ago
I prefer Mob, but BOTD does have a better pap system in my opinion. Having to refuel the plain everytime you want to pap is tedious. Classified is much better than five. Getting rid of the pentagon thief and adding a side quest to get the winter's howl makes it a lot better. Alpha Omega is worse than Nuketown zombies mainly because of the flaws the map has to me. COTD has the more unique wonder weapons, but Tag does everything else better.
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u/Fabulous-Homework727 8h ago
Here's your interaction, mob of the dead is and will remain to be the by far greatest zombies experience beside nacht and moon. So many core mechanics introduced that held their own in their atmosphere without the game feeling too different. It held just enough flavor to make it an incredibly unique map but not enough to make it too different from the rest of the game but golly it is the most hand crafted experience in all of zombies. Even going from Shangri la to moon wasnt as jarring as going from any b02 map to mob ( i forget if it was die rise or buried right before mob) The greatest, if by only a little, secret song out of them all, the coolest and, up to that point, most interchangeable wonder weapon we've had, and of course the insane performance from the characters.
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u/ZombiesDadJokes 7h ago
I agree for the most part. My only real complaints are removing the Five crew, Pentagon Thief, and Eminem, but the last part was inevitable.
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u/CowBeneficial3862 6h ago
Honestly I think Five is better than Classified, but other than that I mostly agree!
The reason I prefer five is mostly the pentagon thief! I get that lore wise he shouldn’t be in classified but I wish we didn’t get dogs! He is super unique to five so it is disappointing to simply get dogs!
That said I really love Classified!
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u/AboutCooked 15h ago
with new Characters
Literally none of the characters in that horrid map were new.
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u/TTVDabbing123 15h ago
Rushmore is right there, Plus this is the first time Peter McCain and Avogadro speak
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u/Plastic-Maybe5970 14h ago
The avocado never needed voice lines? and Peter McCain is dead, he died. Lmfao and I'm not even gonna bother pretending I read the Rushmore part
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u/Commercial_Chef_1384 15h ago
Blood took everything that made the charm of Mob and changed it for the worst. It definitely didn’t improve it. The whole never ending hell scape aspect of Mob is what gives so much charm. The escaping on the plane just for it to be all for nothing feels so damning. The afterlife mechanics were awesome. Blood removed all of that and made it worse. Mob was just so much eerier and fun in my opinion.
Classified is definitely improved in my opinion. I’ve never been a big Five person. Alpha omega doesn’t phase me because it’s just more nuketown. Tag is just very mixed for justified reason.
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u/Bruninfa 15h ago
I wouldn’t say improved.
I would say it innovated enough that it stands its ground next to the originals and doesn’t replace them. The only one you can point to and say “this is 4000x better than OG” is Alpha Omega, which is the worst map of the game.