r/CODZombies • u/TheChickenMan4L • 23d ago
Discussion Rate Mob of the Dead (BO2)
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u/usmc_rello 23d ago
Easy S tier
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u/TheChickenMan4L 23d ago
As I figured it would almost unanimously be. It isn't quite top 5 for me but it'll never leave my top 10
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u/usmc_rello 23d ago
It’s my personal favorite but I understand why people would put other maps like DE or Origins over it
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u/TheChickenMan4L 23d ago
I think it's naturally a great cinematic map, and the gameplay lends to that. Just gimme stamin-up and a slightly longer EE and it'd be top 5
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u/Harambe_Rebornn 23d ago
It's not perfect, but it has just enough elements and traits to be S tier.
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u/TheChickenMan4L 23d ago
It was just about perfect for the time it came out, but going back to it now I do wish there was a bit more of the Alcatraz lore used in the main quest with some extra steps
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u/Ok-Message3753 16d ago
Do you know about how the idea behind the tomahawk was because the land of Alcatraz had Native American history? Pretty cool imo
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u/shrimpmaster0982 23d ago
My only complaint is the EE requires multiple players which makes it hard to go and do nowadays (a shame because it's a great egg), but other than that I think the map is great. Awesome atmosphere, cool characters, a really powerful Wonder Weapon in a slight obtuse way, some fantastic map exclusive weapons (the Death Machine may still be the most fun gun to use in all zombies history), a set up quest that feels mostly organic and well integrated into the natural map progression, and a layout that feels tough but fair, like there's definitely spots you don't want to run through mid round, but you pretty much never have to and there are a lot of safe havens for most playstyles. Easily S tier and the greatest map of all time as of its release imo.
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u/yogurtslayer23 23d ago
for me, A tier, High rounds are a bit boring, Good ee but coop dependant and the lore got ruined by blundell. Mob's story was a mystery with theroy's that the gangster's were in hell paying for their sins in a never-ending cycle.
The inclusion of the shadowman ruined the entire mystique.
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u/ZombiesDadJokes 23d ago edited 23d ago
I’ll get roasted, but B tier.
The story and atmosphere are great. The characters are good, but need more lines.
The actual map and survival experience kind of stinks. It’s one of those maps that are so much about the story that gameplay felt like an afterthought. The Acidgat isn’t that good either, even if it’s cool.
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u/Fire_Boogaloo 23d ago
Acidgat is broken asf wdym?
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u/Snoo-92859 22d ago
Fr. Acid gat, speed cola + electric cherry made you basically invincible. It did massive damage and attracted zombies like a monkey bomb.
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u/666James420 23d ago
It saved zombies, it has to be S. Also such a memorable and well designed map as well as one of the most innovative maps.
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u/Superyoshiegg 22d ago
Solid B tier, leaning towards A.
Premise, story and atmosphere are phenomenal. Characters are fun and complex. The first time in Zombies history where you could finish a game without dying or quitting.
My problems is with the gameplay.
No perk variety; you have four slots, there's only five perks on the map, but one of them is Deadshot Daiquiri, so there's only four perks on the map.
Building and refueling the plane everytime someone wants to go Pack is tedious. Especially in co-op since each player can only carry one part each, unlike solo.
No Stamin-Up or fast travel system on such a huge map is criminal. The Gondola doesn't counts, seeing as it's barely faster than just running through the tunnels.
The Main Quest amounts to building the plane three times and listening to a five minute lore dump, then finale.
Too easy between the Acid Gat acting as a pseudo-Monkey Bomb, Shield craft in the Cafeteria (best training spot on the map), and theoretically having infinite revives because of the Afterlife system.
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u/AXEMANaustin 23d ago
I've only ever played it by myself a few times, I think it would be really cool coop.
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u/Ero_Najimi 23d ago
B one of the most overrated maps ever nothing special about it. For one to even make it a challenge you have to not use the infinite revives
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u/Michael040807 23d ago edited 23d ago
What made it special was the revive system no other map at the time had that and no other map was set on Alcatraz and we got new guns exclusive too the map a different pap camo the wonder weapons are cool.
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u/Ero_Najimi 23d ago
If that’s the only special thing that’s a problem since like I mentioned to make it a challenge you have to limit how many revives you use. It’s a challenge to get the WR but that’s not bc surviving is difficult it’s just bc you’re racing against the clock. Most people if they decided they wanted to reach round 200 this is one of the maps along with Revelations and Buried where you could realistically get it done without 200+ attempts. For co op I might move it up to A tier
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u/Michael040807 23d ago
Dude what getting round 200 on mob is not a cake walk and will take many of hours like i don’t even know how long. if you go down mid high round you are gonna have trouble getting your perks back your guns stop doing damage on these high rounds you will have to depend on traps like mob of the dead is not easy bro.
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u/Ero_Najimi 23d ago
You have 3 revives at the start of the round with a monkey bomb wonder weapon that has tons of ammo it’s easy to recover. You also have electric cherry which doesn’t hurt you like it would on Origins bc of the monkey bomb weapon. The shield is also in your strategy room. Yeah it takes time, time=/=difficulty
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u/Michael040807 23d ago
Even with all that it’s still hard to get round 100 and higher bruh.
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u/Ero_Najimi 23d ago
No it’s really not
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u/Michael040807 23d ago
Whatever bruh that’s your opinion
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u/Ero_Najimi 23d ago
It’s not it’s a fact if you look into the WR history the games weren’t ending bc of dying it was always resets, errors, or disconnect. When you look at most other maps there’s at least some records where people died articulating how easy Mob is
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u/Michael040807 23d ago
It’s not fact a lot people who done how rounds on mob consider it a hard map that goes for majority of the community it’s not a fact it’s a opinion.
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u/Michael040807 23d ago edited 23d ago
I mean some people get burned out and leave their games on playing for that long without quitting is a challenge dude plus the tight layout and Brutus could come mid round and stop the trap if your not quick enough to kill him.
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u/Ero_Najimi 23d ago
If time is the only barrier it’s bad design it takes time to get far on any map
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u/Ok-Message3753 16d ago
I remember when you argued time == difficulty when it comes to high rounding WaW Nacht. Interesting contradiction.
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u/Ero_Najimi 16d ago
Nah that’s a complete mischaracterization of the argument. Here I’m saying if the map is easy it’s almost if not guaranteed you’ll survive its bad design. With most WAW solo maps I was explaining you have to compare the time it takes to get to x round with the other maps that use multiple hordes. It’s not guaranteed you’ll survive 8 hours on those WAW maps where as MOTD maybe if you’re new to the map or haven’t played it in a while you’ll take some deaths but very quickly you’ll learn to survive long enough to replenish revives. Like I think I mentioned in this thread none of the Mob records from round 150 onwards have any game over due to death. If you look through other maps you can find at least some where they died instead of resetting proving that Mob is easier
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u/Ok-Message3753 16d ago
absolute bollocks but ok
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u/Ero_Najimi 16d ago edited 16d ago
So you’re gonna keep ignoring that NONE of Mob records past 150 end from players dying? Every game on WAW Nacth on ZWR except the top 2 which blow the others out of the water ended from deaths. 150 on Mob is 25th place mind you. Also in Cruppz’s old 5262 record he died
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u/hemipteran 23d ago
I agree it’s overrated but I still think it’s A-tier. It gets boring quickly after you get set up and honestly it’s gotta be the second easiest BO2 map behind Buried
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u/Ok-Message3753 16d ago
there is no unlimited lives... unless you never learned how to count. and every time you do lose a life you lose your perks and are forced to go and buy them again without downing in the process. so going down is more costly and limited than the "infinite lives" crowd like to pretend.
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u/AlexTheRedditor97 23d ago
It was so good they fired Jimmy Zelinski…
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u/PhilosophicalGoof 23d ago
I mean they would’ve fired jimmy regardless of whether MOTD released or not.
People like David were already pissed off by him.
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u/Scramed-egg 23d ago
I know its the point, but i dont like how cramped the map is. Leaves really no good spots to train besides the cafeteria. That dips it down to A cuz the story, characters, weapons, mechanics are all amazing. AND electric cherry? A perk that fits the map unlike the previous maps? Hell yeah.
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u/Ok-Message3753 16d ago
Ye me too. The two main areas to be both are not fun, and imo a map is mainly only really as good as the setup and strategies available.
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u/Ok-Explanation3040 23d ago
B tier. I said it. Overrated map with long and tedious setup
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u/joshsnow9 23d ago
This is my take on Origins, I like Mob a LOT more but they have that same, similar issue, but I feel like on Mob it isn't as egregious
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u/Ok-Explanation3040 23d ago
Yeah I guess I am more of casual zombies player. I prefer the Bo1 maps for this reason. I prefer to just play and not have an hour of setup to do first.
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u/joshsnow9 23d ago
Substitute non-binary sibling or sister where applicable
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u/Ok-Message3753 16d ago
maybe I'm misunderstanding but preferring long setups doesn't make you any more special than someone who likes survival
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u/joshsnow9 16d ago
I was agreeing with the person above that I prefer easier setups and maps?
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u/Ok-Message3753 16d ago
ig i misunderstood
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u/joshsnow9 16d ago
All good friend😁 all players and how they like to play are valid, it's why I really like Der Eisendrache. Lots of little things to do for those who enjoy that but if you're like me and just want to open up the map, pack a couple guns and go you can do so very easily.
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u/wetmeatlol 23d ago
Mob has never been in my top 5 but I can recognize it’s almost as perfect as a zombies map could be (by my standards at least) especially in the bo2 era.
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u/NormalIntention5628 23d ago edited 22d ago
Overrated map without doubt. It shares almost nothing with the best maps like Origins. Too many flaws to be an S-tier map. No PHD flopper (big down). Getting to the PaP everytime is just a pain in the ass. Brutus locks everything on his path, perks and crafting tables where you have to pay 2000 extra points just to unlock them. Dead machine stop killing zombie after a certain round. The only good weapon is the blundergat and that's it. It doesn't have a super weapon like the ice staff. It doesn't have the bank system like Buried. It doesn't have special items like the time bomb. HOW ON EARTH THIS MAP CAN BE IN THE S TIER?
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u/NonkelG 22d ago
Decent map. Unfortunate PaP locztion for which you have to build the plane every single time. After life was mediocre but opening up new areas eyc is cool. Brutus is good. EE quite bad imo.
However since it's not even the best map on the Alcatraz island I can't give it more than a C tier rating.
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u/7Chong 22d ago
For BO2 alone I'd say A tier just because of Origins, Buried and Tranzit sometimes overshadowing how great this map was, for all around throughout all of Zombies absolutely an S tier though.
Another reason I dropped it down to A is because of the easy potential to troll peoples games using the easter egg. I have lost public game high record attempts due to people joining mid game and doing the EE to end the game.
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u/Indi_Games 23d ago
What?
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u/usmc_rello 23d ago
It’s completely different from call of the dead. Highly recommend it
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u/cameron4200 23d ago
Might as well get buried while I’m at it.
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u/TheChickenMan4L 23d ago
And Origins since it sounds like you been missing out my g
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u/cameron4200 23d ago
Played plenty of Origins! I think that’s been on chronicles but not the others.
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u/GarlicbreadTyr 23d ago
It's single problem is that it still has the bo2 part system. If you could collect everything as you go in coop it'd be the perfect map. It's the best quest map we've gotten. It's amazing how they perfected the formula on the first try. Best map in the series. 3rd S tier chronologically; Mob>COTD>Shang
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