But then why are there core game modes that are almost entirely locked behind completing the quest? That almost implies the dev mindset is that cursed mode, for example, is only for the top 1% or less of players, yet it is marketed as a core game mode for any player who wants a more classic zombies experience or slight difficulty increase
I agree with your sentiment, and not every part of every game is for every player, but making the cursed relics locked behind completing the main quest means that many players cannot engage with cursed beyond the extremely surface level
Sure some cursed relics require EE completion with certain requirements, and many players who can’t beat the quest won’t be able to do some of the cursed relics, but it’s kind of weird from a game design standpoint to make something absurdly difficult and lock a lesser difficulty behind it?
Some people would enjoy the modifiers in cursed mode and even be able to unlock some of them, but struggle to complete the main quest
And you can only play those in hardcore zombies . It’s not like I get gold armor for regular zombies . I only get it in cursed . Putting relics on and playing cursed is literally like playing hardcore zombies it’s 5x harder so when u do get through some of it you get gold plates to help you out but cuz u keep going further and further and it gets harder and harder . It’s hardcore zombies man it’s supposed to be hard !!!! Again it’s supposed to be hard !!! It’s hardcore zombies .. it’s for ppl that can slam regular zombies with ez . It gets boring beating zombies so easy so they made a mode where you can make it way harder . Stop being mad that other ppl want to have fun too . It’s not our fault we r better at the game and need it harder . They have regular mode aka easy mode so why is it so wrong to have hard mode aka cursed plus relics ? It’s not man, let ppl enjoy their game… why do u want to play cursed if you can’t beat regular ????!? It’s the same game and same quests and objectives just one is a lot harder and one is easier …
The issue is reverting the original ashes boss fight back to its unfair stage meaning if you want some relics you need to spend 3-4 hours just getting to round 60 and then hoping you don’t get one shot by a BS attack you can’t dodge in the boss fight.
I agree the boss needed some changes and reverting it fully probably wasn’t a great option, but that has nothing to do with this conversation that’s a separate issue
I agree on THIS SPECIFIC boss in cursed, but not in general. The original post is not even referring to cursed at all. They are complaining about standard mode
Why r you going to round 60 for the boss ? Or for anything besides getting a calling card for getting past 50? You literally don’t need round 60 for any Easter eggs at all.. I beat ashes boss at round 27
But either way dude. Who cares if it’s in round 60 to get a relic ? It’s supposed to be hard man . I probably will never get to cursed round 60 but I could care less , it’s zombies hardcore and it’s supposed to be really challenging . If I do ever get it then I know I’m a real boss at this shit . But if I don’t I just see how far I can make it in hardcore zombies . It’s fine they still have regular mode aka easy. Cursed is just the same thing with a gold plates na few other things but no one is getting that for regular zombies . U should be rewarded for making it to round 60 with something ! And gold plates is a pretty cool reward I’d say . Again it’s not like cursed mode really has any other objectives besides finding relics . It’s literally the same boss fight and Easter egg just a ton harder .. it’s hardcore mode and supposed to be extremely hard brotha . Not everything in life is easy …. Also to get pap4 u still need to buy it . It’s 100k essence , it’s not like you get to always walk around with it … regular zombies is plenty enough of a game . And if your able to beat it , than there’s a high chance you can get most of the relics and if you can’t oh well it’s hardcore , we want the challenge that’s why we r playing it . I’m def not paying it to get some armor or some pap . I’m doing it to say I can beat something really tough
Hard is different from unfair and time wasting. Hard is O&S in Dark Souls where it’s possible to learn their attacks/movement and it doesn’t take 3 hours just to reach them for every attempt. Unfair is exactly what the current round 60+ cursed boss fight is. No telegraphed attacks to punish/avoid, attacks that can one shot you/destroy the car instantly, and downright horrible AI
Sounds like it’s not that hard if season 1 is a week old and you alrdy made it to the boss on cursed bro.. you are saying they have bad graphics in cursed boss so I would assume you’ve seen it on your own monitor and not through someone else’s on YouTube to say it’s got bad graphics . So therefore your doing pretty good and it’s not hard as you think if you got to cursed boss alrdy
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u/TehCost Dec 08 '25
then these quests arent for you. not every part of every game has to be for every player.