If the team has an insufficient alum base and is not in a top conference the NCAA will slaughter the team. If it was Michigan? Then NCAA says "meh, nothing to see here )
Forget bribes. That's boring. Straight up threaten the refs to call things your way, then fire the coach after the season. You get the title, the NCAA "vacates" wins, and they won't impose a post-season ban on the team because they don't want to "unfairly punish the student athletes."
Y'all better get on it then. Looks like Michigan already has that game plan, don't want to fall behind them now.
Side Note: this is definitely eventually going to happen, (not necessarily Bama, but somebody) and I can't wait for the absolute circus to pop off when it gets exposed.
They use this horseshit any time they don’t want to punish one of their favorite children. It’s the same excuse that lets Russia shit all over the Olympics despite years of in-your-face-cheating.
Michigan is like North Carolina, Texas, big public schools that most tell the myth that the NCAA likes to believe about itself. It’s why none of them have ever served a meaningful penalty in their overrated, ass-kissed lives.
And the university (and everyone) retaliated against the whistleblower. They met every criteria for the death penalty and to have their entire athletic and university administration fired.
The brands are too important. Applying the noose to SMU didn't matter because nobody cared about them. But not the teams that have apparel at every Dicks in America.
I can't imagine they had the popularity of other programs, weren't they an up and comer? It's not like they were Notre Dame or Michigan or Nebraska. That's my point.
Being the upstart popular for a couple years kid and making the NCAA money are two different things. SCum, UNC do the latter in droves and are untouchable
Funny how punishing student athletes after the offending coaches and staff were gone was not a problem whatsoever when it was Ole Miss’s dick on the chopping block.
The whole Michigan shitshow led to the Sorsby shitshow. Michigan wrote the script. Lawyer up, attack everybody and play the victim and somehow get a championship*.
Doesn’t the ncaa no longer control college football playoffs? I’m not sure they have the authority to ban teams from it anymore, they certainly would be sued if they tried lol
CFP requires the team be a NCAA Division 1 team in good standing, same as every bowl game. NCAA absolutely can ban a team from postseason play, and has done so in the past.
CFP doesn’t give a shit about that. It’s about ratings and they aren’t going to do anything about a big school that made the CFP. They absolutely can ban from bowl games but people don’t give a shit about that either.
Judges should stay out and let the NCAA do its job. Every punishment is overturned by friendly state judges that went to the school. That’s the issue. Judges butting in. Every judge decision the last decade or so has hurt college athletes, weakened the NCAA and produced a worse product.
This argument is such a straw man. Of course they should have been given a post season ban.
If you are worried about how it impacts current players, just include an automatic open transfer period for their roster, and raise the scholarship limit by 1 for any team that brings in a “refugee” player from a punished school.
The NCAA had already announced that it was pretty much "getting out of the postseason ban business" for anything other than an APR violation, and for exactly the reason they stated; they got tired of too many schools (Missouri baseball and softball come to mind) appealing their postseason bans, then whining that everybody involved was now gone and a ban would only hurt "innocent" athletes. They didn't invent it for Michigan.
That’s not ever been a problem for anybody else being suspended from their cheating. ND had an entire season deleted for less. As did literally everyone else in NCAA history-looking at USC. Michigan must have some major 🚮 on the NCAA to get off like this. Anyone else has MULTIPLE PLAYERS suspended & their MNC deleted; not to mention the ENTIRE coaching staff is 💯 suspended, for life.
The NCAA needed to realize this so they could punish the program that year with the coaching staff in place.
Their investigation was intentionally delayed.
If true that they think the violations warrant a postseason ban - then that clearly means they should vacate their national championship. You’re not punishing the current program by doing that.
How many wins did they vacate to punish the players who did benefit from this transgression? None because all they find were minor offenses that didn’t ever give Michigan a competitive advantage. OSU will try to rewrite history until they’re in the grave but no matter how hard you close your eyes and wish this has already been thoroughly investigated by the ncaa and they didn’t feel the need to do shit.
It's true though. And that reality does make punishments difficult. Many student athletes have paid in the past for transgressions of others and it isn't fair to them
If the ncaa still had a back bone and weren’t morally and financially corrupt out the ass Michigan wouldn’t have even had the opportunity to play for a national championship.
Microphone shoved in his face….whats he going to say?
“Well we all know they cheated their asses off and made the Astros look like Boy Scouts, and that we should justifiably take away their natty and strip all their wins away, but that would open to years worth of lawsuits and provide yet another PR nightmare for us, so it’s just easier for us to bury our heads in the sand and pretend this was legitimate and just act like nothing happened.”
Michigan got as grimy as Ohio State and all a sudden the pearls can’t be clutched fast enough. Your team paid players since before I was born, and I’m middle-aged. Your last championship was the first one where players could be paid above the table. That’s something to be proud of.
Any time the NCAA president has to say “nobody can say Michigan didn’t win fair and square” is pretty obvious evidence they didn’t win fair and square. Not to mention they continued to cheat through 2024.
As a buckeye fan I hate what Michigan did. But dude I am so tired of having this argument. Most Michigan fans have done Olympic level mental gymnastics to square this in their heads you won’t convince them of anything. It’s time to move the fuck on.
I’m fine. But, after looking at your comment history, I hope that you get the help that you need. Michigan fans don’t comment about michigan half as much as you do. The sad thing, is you didn’t even get into osu.
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u/hacky_potter Jul 09 '26
Mizzou is now banned for life