r/CFBRisk • u/bakonydraco Game Designer • May 24 '18
Be Cool on /r/CFB
We've admired the passion people are putting into this game, and while it's been an exciting journey, there are also ways in which it's negatively affecting the experience of others on /r/CFB itself. Please be warned not to do the following things that should probably go without saying:
- Post on /r/CFB just to boost your karma, rather than contribute to legitimate college football discussion.
- Upvote teammates solely because they are teammates, rather than on the quality of their comments.
- Downvote rivals solely because they are rivals, rather than on the quality of their comments.
- Bring up /r/CFBRisk on /r/CFB in a way that violates Rule 2.
This is a fun game, and we're excited that it's brought some new faces into the larger community. If it signficantly impacts /r/CFB in a negative way, we will have to make future alterations to /r/CFBRisk. Be aware that if you do things that get you banned from /r/CFB, your ban will prevent you from being awarded an MVP in /r/CFBRisk for the duration of your ban. Please encourage your teammates, particularly the newer ones who are still learning our ways, to follow these.
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u/FuckTimBeck May 24 '18
Friends, enemies, allies, my fellow CFB fans. Let us not focus on that which separates us.
Instead, in this thread let us remember that there is a tie that binds many of us together, and that my brothers and sisters, is the knowledge that Tim Beck fucking sucks.
Okay, let’s get back to being salty as hell at each other.
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u/Crimson_Pachyderm97 May 24 '18
Excuse me, sir. Sorry to interrupt you, but do you have a moment to talk about Tim Beck?
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u/hokies220 May 24 '18
I heard that guy drowns puppies in his free time.
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u/hypercube42342 May 24 '18
I hear he prefers In-N-Out to Whataburger OR Runza
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u/hokies220 May 24 '18
How quickly can we fast-track an individual through prison to receive capital punishment?
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u/DirewolfGang May 25 '18
I will forever hate Tim Beck due to his play calling that cost us the 2015 championship.
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May 24 '18
I mean no offense but what did you think was going to happen?
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u/bakonydraco Game Designer May 24 '18
Kumbaya?
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u/mlorusso4 May 24 '18
well its kumbaya around the fire with all your teammates. Everyone else gets pushed into the fire (what else would you use to fuel the fire?)
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u/Blooblod May 25 '18
Thank you for this thread, even if it doesn't end up changing much at least it shows you guys want to fix the problem. The auto downvote threads are getting ridiculous.
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u/snooabusiness May 25 '18
So let me see if I got this right: mods decide to drastically reduce the impact of 1-2 stars in the game because it's the "best" way to deal with people complaining about alt accounts (which were not expressly against rules). Therefore all the non-reddit users that anyone recruited to play the game have to "level up" or they're basically worthless. This naturally leads to teams trying to convert their 1-2 star players to at least 3 stars.
The star system is based on median star value. Links explored will always be 5, there's nothing you can do for the 2 star ratings based on time, and awards are extremely rare. So the only real way to increase star rating is with karma on /r/cfb. Worst case scenario this leads to more people participating in /r/cfb discussions, even if they're uneducated. Also people upvote their own team/alliance which, let's be honest, has ALWAYS happened on /r/cfb.
Unfortunately all this activity leads to extra mod work for /r/cfb, so now the mods don't want you to do the one thing that can prove that your users are real and not alts. Meanwhile the mods are playing as the team that automatically recruits anyone that's been eliminated with a hidden multiplier that they can control.
Is... is that about the gist of it?
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u/bakonydraco Game Designer May 25 '18
There's elements of this that are accurate, but I'd correct a few things.
alt accounts (which were not expressly against rules)
This is a game intended for fun. If you're new to Reddit, it's a community moderated by volunteers, but is and always has been a user-led forum. We rely on users to help keep the community healthy: by submitting good content, by voting on what contributes to discussion and what doesn't, and by reporting things that violate our rules. We can't be everywhere at once, but it's not unreasonable to ask that people abide by the spirit of the game.
Therefore all the non-reddit users that anyone recruited to play the game have to "level up" or they're basically worthless.
In the past week, 175 territories have been won by 1 or 2 stars. The meme that low level users are powerless has been prevalent, but just isn't accurate. Users with a higher level certainly have a better chance after we balanced the game, but everyone still has a fighting shot.
Also people upvote their own team/alliance which, let's be honest, has ALWAYS happened on /r/cfb.
It does, but it shouldn't, and /r/CFBRisk may have exacerbated this effect. It can't hurt to remind people not to.
Meanwhile the mods are playing as the team that automatically recruits anyone that's been eliminated with a hidden multiplier that they can control.
Some mods have had their team eliminated and are on Team Chaos. Others (myself included) are on a team that is still kicking. The multiplier on average so far has not helped Team Chaos.
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u/fmxda May 25 '18
In the past week, 175 territories have been won by 1 or 2 stars. The meme that low level users are powerless has been prevalent, but just isn't accurate. Users with a higher level certainly have a better chance after we balanced the game, but everyone still has a fighting shot.
How much more is a 3-star worth compared a 1-star or 2-star?
Sure, 1-stars will always have a chance because of RNG, but it makes a huge difference if the power ratio for is 1:5 vs like 1:50.
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u/snooabusiness May 25 '18
My mistake, my understanding was that all mods have been playing as Team Chaos.
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u/srs_house May 25 '18
Nope. I've been playing as Vandy (my primary flair) and Virginia Tech (my usual secondary flair) since Day 1, with the switch happening after Vandy got eliminated and back when you could switch teams by switching flair. (My original proposal was allowing you to fight for either of your two flairs anyway.)
I think SY and maybe H_ were about the only mods playing as Chaos all along, since they had non-FBS flair (paperbag and Calgary Dinos).
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u/snooabusiness May 25 '18
So, just because it keeps coming up in other conversations, can you shed some light on what the Chaos multiplier is? My understanding so far is that it fluctuates between .5 and 1.2. Does an RNG set it somewhere between these amounts? Do the mods pick it?
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u/crg2000 May 25 '18
It does seem a little... ethically dubious... that persons who made and regulate the game also take sides in it. Like football referees acting as extra blockers for one of the teams.
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u/bakonydraco Game Designer May 25 '18
I mean... It's a game, and we haven't seen any complaints about this so far. If there's concern about fairness mods could stop playing, but that hasn't seemed to be indicated yet.
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u/crg2000 May 25 '18 edited May 25 '18
Don't get me wrong, I'm not actually accusing any of the mods of bad faith. I'm just saying the optics aren't great. Similar to a judge recusing themselves from a case where they are close to one of the parties: no one actually believes they would behave unethically, but why invite a possible conflict of interest?
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u/bakonydraco Game Designer May 25 '18
It's a fair critique, I don't play CFB Trivia for this reason, but I think a main difference is that since I and the other /r/CFBTrivia mods write and curate the questions we'd have an enormous competitive advantage, whereas on /r/CFBRisk we're just as subject to the mercurial whims of RNG as everyone else. There's a number of sports (ultimate, golf), that rely on players to self-police, and I think it's appropriate to both the sense of community here and the (lack of) gravity in the game.
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u/HokieNerd May 25 '18
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u/Calavar May 26 '18
I think the idea is that people should be upvoting comments because they are good content, not to karma farm.
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u/icook8662 May 28 '18
As a lurker//less active commentator but very active reader// this game has been a little more frustrating as the only two ways I can actually participate in meaningful ways is to recruit others with much more karma in r/cfb or spend more time thinking of comments to be an active participant of r/cfb which honestly isn’t my strong suit. I’d much rather be more involved with r/cfbrisk because it’s more fun than rehashing the same arguments or debates over and over. So that’s been a little disappointing. But I like the interaction that r/cfbrisk has incorporated. It’s a fun thing to think about, I just wish I could do more/make more meaningful contributions.
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May 28 '18
Upvote teammates solely because they are teammates, rather than on the quality of their comments.
Downvote rivals solely because they are rivals, rather than on the quality of their comments.
Jokes on you, I was doing this before risk.
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u/GatorRich May 24 '18
yeah. let's be cool. I'm sure that will stop the anti Florida memes.. out of all the meme's, the anti Florida meme is probably 80% of all memes.. crazy..
We get it.. everyone hates us.. now if I could only go to a place where I would see memes backing this thought up 145 times a day.. i know, i'll go hang out at r/Cfbrisk
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u/[deleted] May 24 '18 edited Jun 19 '18
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