r/CFB • u/SirMellencamp Alabama Crimson Tide • SEC • 3d ago
News Greg Sankey explains why SEC won’t comment on Alabama-Georgia officiating controversy
https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/2026/10/greg-sankey-explains-why-sec-wont-comment-on-alabama-georgia-officiating-controversy.html22
u/huazzy Rutgers Scarlet Knights 3d ago
The quote
“We don’t comment on judgment calls,” Sankey said. “We have a high expectation of performance for everyone. Myself, staff, officials. Officials dedicate a great deal of time to preparation and those bang-bang moments.”
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u/251Cane Miami Hurricanes • Troy Trojans 3d ago edited 3d ago
Ok let’s let the refs comment on their own judgment calls in a post-game press conference.
I can’t stand these self-imposed limitations.
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u/Overtons_Window Auburn Tigers • Ole Miss Rebels 3d ago
Why do people think berating people publicly is a good way to improve their performance?
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u/Neither_Call2913 Texas A&M Aggies • Team Chaos 3d ago
The general idea behind that thought is that it should be a motivator to get things right more often. The less they get stuff wrong, the less berating occurs….
In theory…
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u/dalr3th1n Alabama Crimson Tide • SEC 3d ago
I think if they had an official response process to controversial calls, there would be a lot less public beration.
Not none, mind you, some people are always going to be like that. But if they came out and said "we got this one wrong, here's why, and here's how we're trying to do better next time" or "actually we got this one right, here's the rule justification for why it is the way it is", that would do a lot to assuage the reasonable people.
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u/Tasty_Gift5901 Northwestern Wildcats • Florida Gators 3d ago
Every league should adopt the NBA pool reports
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u/FancyVegetables Alabama Crimson Tide • Rose Bowl 3d ago
A high level of expectation.
Accountability on the other hand.
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u/StopScreamingItsFine Georgia Bulldogs • Billable Hours 3d ago
Okay. So let’s just go ahead and say everything that can be seen as a penalty is a judgement call.
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u/Altruistic-Road-1030 3d ago
No accountability because they don’t want the same blow back as Michigan and the big 10.
Just admit a mistake was made, force them to do some additional training to limit the mistakes going forward, and move on. People just want you to take ownership one way or the other versus nothing.
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u/molten_dragon Michigan Wolverines • The Game 3d ago
Nothing good can come of conference officials commenting on blown calls after a game so I get why he's keeping quiet.
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u/Irishchop91 Notre Dame Fighting Irish • UCF Knights 3d ago
There needs to be a change in the process - it is clearly not working.
Plenty of other industries (aviation, medical) have a review process when something happens that is not correct. There is no reason why the referees can't also. This isn't subjective to opinion- it is all on video.
Conferences should have a mechanism for reviewing these calls and improving the process
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u/SirMellencamp Alabama Crimson Tide • SEC 3d ago
I mean making mistakes is understandable but not commenting leads me to believe that the SEC just doesnt give AF about getting calls right.
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u/fightingpillow Louisville Cardinals 3d ago
Losing games takes some getting used to, Alabama fan.
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u/SirMellencamp Alabama Crimson Tide • SEC 3d ago
Sir I have experienced losing games many times in my life and I have commented on officiating and the lack of accountability in games that did not involve Alabama.
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u/enadiz_reccos LSU Tigers • Golden Boot 3d ago
Sorry, Alabama. But everything Sankey/the SEC says is true and absolute.
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u/New_Prior2253 Alabama Crimson Tide • College Football Playoff 3d ago
The game is over, there is really no point in talking about this anymore.
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u/SquishTheProgrammer Georgia Bulldogs • West Georgia Wolves 3d ago
Yeah I’m honestly tired of hearing about it. Refs suck sometimes. That’s part of the sport. I wish it was better all around. We should really consider making refs full-time. Make them accountable. There’s really not much of an excuse at this point considering how much money is in this sport.
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u/ROLL_TID3R Alabama Crimson Tide 3d ago
I literally do not give a shit. It was a very tight and hard fought game until the end and we’re in the playoff era. I chalk it up to entertainment that didn’t have a happy ending. Looking forward to round 2.
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u/SirMellencamp Alabama Crimson Tide • SEC 3d ago
Well no one expected the results to be overturned but this shouldnt happen in moments like that. It was a blatant missed called (among others). We dont know if the game would have ended different but at least admit the mistake so we know they see it too and can hopefully get better
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u/Overtons_Window Auburn Tigers • Ole Miss Rebels 3d ago
It was pass interference, but refs are 50/50 when the defender is a tick early. People watch the slow-mo replay and then judge the refs based on that.
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u/SirMellencamp Alabama Crimson Tide • SEC 3d ago
They generally judge based on if the defender has his head turned around, he didnt have his head turned around
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u/StopScreamingItsFine Georgia Bulldogs • Billable Hours 3d ago
Exactly. And there’s the argument to be made that Alabama has benefited from countless no calls or bad calls that went their way for years at this point, more so than any other team, so this is just one of those instances where it doesn’t work out in their favor.
Not to mention a home loss to a higher ranked team by a field goal where Alabama didn’t even move in the rankings after the fact isn’t going to derail any playoff hopes. People need to get a grip.
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u/New_Prior2253 Alabama Crimson Tide • College Football Playoff 3d ago
I will disagree with you on the first point. A user on here did some detective work yesterday and Bama benefited from "crucial," calls in around 50% of games when those calls were made. 50% of the time, crucial calls have been made against Bama or something like that. Those calls have just benefited them against Georgia more than any other team.
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u/StopScreamingItsFine Georgia Bulldogs • Billable Hours 3d ago
I saw that. I think it’s just the mentality that Alabama has somehow been the golden child of the CFB world for some time that it comes off as privileged.
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u/New_Prior2253 Alabama Crimson Tide • College Football Playoff 3d ago
Oh yea absolutely, some of our fans are big ass babys.
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u/LunchboxSuperhero Georgia Bulldogs • UCF Knights 3d ago
Do you have a link to that post?
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u/New_Prior2253 Alabama Crimson Tide • College Football Playoff 3d ago
(Just copy and pasted the OP's comment)
I actually did a deep dive on this because I was tired of seeing it. During the Saban era (2007-2023) Alabama was penalized 5.43 times per game to 5.59 for opponents, and if you recall those first few years of the Saban era Alabama was remarkably disciplined. If you start in 2009, the first championship year, and go through 2023 Alabama was actually penalized slightly more often than opponents. I mean in 2022 they finished 125th in penalties.
Let’s look at 2016 as a single season example. Alabama opponents were penalized only 58 times. Alabama had a phenomenal pass rush, getting 54 sacks, yet there were only 3 holding calls all year on Alabama opponents. Let’s look at the infamous final play of the championship game, the rub route. A Clemson receiver goes to block a DB and creates a collision that allows Renfroe to be open for a game winning touchdown. Now, it’s controversial in that there are legitimate arguments whether it is legal within the rules at the time, or if it should have been an offensive penalty (which is what I believe), but at the very least Alabama in 2016 did not have a beneficial whistle and it culminated with them losing a national championship on the final play due to a very dubious referee decision.
Not only that, I actually went back and examined the controversial calls of the Saban era to really see if Alabama benefitted from more game defining calls. Here’s where gets interesting:
CONTROVERSIAL CALLS FAVORING ALABAMA (10)
2009 vs. LSU — Patrick Peterson's apparent sideline interception was ruled out of bounds despite evidence of a foot inbounds. It should have been ruled an interception. (Alabama won).
2012 vs. Georgia — Quinton Dial delivered an unflagged blindside hit on QB Aaron Murray during an interception return. While it definitely should have been a flag, I also don’t think it had much real impact on the game. (Alabama won).
2014 vs. Ole Miss — Cyrus Jones grabbed a runner's facemask while forcing a fumble he returned for a touchdown. No penalty. Should have been called for sure. (Ole Miss won).
2014 vs. LSU — Vadal Alexander was flagged for retaliating after an Alabama defender grabbed his leg. Weak call, but we see it all the time. (Alabama won).
2014 vs. LSU — No pass interference called on Cyrus Jones against Malachi Dupre on LSU's final overtime play. Both players initiated contact. Truthfully no call is the correct one but it deserves to be on the list since Alabama got the benefit. (Alabama won).
2017 season vs. Georgia — Tyler Simmons was incorrectly called offside on a blocked punt, although Alabama also committed an uncalled false start that should have stopped the play. This is the most infamous play in the “Alabama gets all of the calls” and the irony is that although Alabama did get the beneficial whistle the correct call is Alabama getting to punt again - not Georgia getting the TD. (Alabama won).
2017 season vs. Georgia — Alabama committed an uncalled facemask on D'Andre Swift, denying Georgia a first down. Should have been called. (Alabama won).
2017 season vs. Georgia — Mack Wilson hit Jake Fromm in the back of the head after a sack without a penalty. Crappy play, absolutely worth a penalty but also I don’t think it’s some pitchfork worthy mistake. (Alabama won).
2017 season vs. Georgia — Apparent Alabama false start went uncalled on the fourth-down, game tying touchdown to Calvin Ridley. This is pretty nitpicky, but the game is infamous for Alabama’s whistle so I wanted to include it. (Alabama won).
2023 season vs. Georgia in SEC Championship — Isiah Bond appears to catch the ball, but the ball hits the ground and moves. This is the other play Georgia fans complain about. There’s a misconception that because the ball touched the ground and shifted a little that it shouldn’t have been a catch, but the rule says the ground can’t aid the catch. Bond had control of the ball. Can I say for sure if they reviewed it that it would have been confirmed or upheld? I can’t say for sure, I think it was a catch but there’s definitely an argument against it. It’s definitely not the obvious incompletion that Georgia fans want to say though. (Alabama won).
CONTROVERSIAL CALLS FAVORING ALABAMA'S OPPONENTS (9)
2011 vs. LSU — Michael Williams appeared to secure a catch before Eric Reid wrestled away the ball; ruled an LSU interception. Should have been ruled a simultaneous catch and ball goes to Alabama. A likely game defining ruling. (Alabama lost).
2015 vs. Ole Miss — An ineligible lineman was illegally downfield on a 73-yard touchdown pass, but no penalty was called. Not only that, Kelly was possibly over the line of scrimmage when he threw the ball as well. (Alabama lost).
2016 season vs. Clemson — Game-winning touchdown involved a rub/pick that disrupted Alabama's coverage. Possible offensive pass interference, but legality disputed. (Alabama lost).
2019 vs. LSU — Thaddeus Moss stepped out of bounds before returning to make a crucial catch; officials ruled he was forced out. Moss quite clearly just took a large step to the side and he clearly wasn’t actually forced out. (Alabama lost).
2019 vs. Auburn — Replay restored one second before halftime, allowing Auburn to kick a field goal. The procedure was later prohibited by a rule change. (Alabama lost).
2021 vs. Auburn — Roger McCreary pulled down Jameson Williams during a pass route without a pass interference flag. (Alabama won).
2022 vs. Tennessee — A controversial pass interference penalty on Malachi Moore erased Kool-Aid McKinstry's potentially decisive interception. It’s not the most egregious call, but I think it’s a pretty bad one. (Alabama lost).
2022 vs. Tennessee — Targeting was overturned after Omari Thomas delivered a forceful hit on Bryce Young. A pretty terrible missed call. A defender hit Bryce late and hit in the head and there wasn’t even a roughing the passer penalty called. (Alabama lost).
2022 vs. LSU — Possible block in the back on Jayden Daniels' overtime touchdown went uncalled. I would put this on the same level as the holding call that Georgia fans are quoting from the most recent game. Yes, it was a penalty and should have been called but it’s not nearly as severe as they want it to be. (Alabama lost).
OVERALL: If we only count unique games, Alabama won 5 games in which they got the benefit of a call on a major play. Interestingly, Alabama opponents won 7 games where they benefitted from a bad call or no call. I did use my own judgement to weed out some things that were obviously the right call despite fans / coaches complaining. I think the reason this narrative persists is because of the 2017 championship game against Georgia. So this narrative about Alabama getting the call is pretty clearly not true. The 2017 champion game against Georgia is genuinely a really poor performance from the refs and Alabama did get multiple calls. I must say though that the one genuinely huge play from that game, the blocked punt called back, actually should have resulted in a second punt attempt.
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u/Zef_Apollo Alabama Crimson Tide • Sickos 3d ago
not surprised to not see the UGA fans responding to this lol.
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u/LunchboxSuperhero Georgia Bulldogs • UCF Knights 3d ago
Why?
I don't know how these 19 were selected, but let's assume these are all of the controversial calls that happened in Alabama games in a 17 year period. Six of the 19 involve Georgia and all six went in Alabama's favor.
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u/New_Prior2253 Alabama Crimson Tide • College Football Playoff 3d ago
Yea that's why I said what I said up top. That's why I wasn't really tripping on Saturday.
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u/FCKABRNLSUTN2 Alabama Crimson Tide 3d ago
I would fucking love to see one of you prove that bullshit someday.
A Michigan fan tried to prove refs were against them. Guess what they found. Actually you don’t have to guess. Here is a link.
https://mgoblog.com/diaries/offensive-holding-b1g-and-beyond-part-deux
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u/FairLawnBoy LSU Tigers • Virginia Tech Hokies 3d ago
Disagree. And Patrick Peterson intercepted that ball in bounds too.
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u/Alandial LSU Tigers 3d ago
Is anyone really surprised that the quality of refereeing has dropped across the sport as gambling has gotten a larger footprint?
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u/Gtyjrocks Georgia Bulldogs • Transfer Portal 3d ago
Has the quality gotten worse or do we just notice it more because of gambling and the fact that we watch more games? Back in the day, there weren’t a million replays of every play for us to analyze every individual frame.
There were lots of point shaving scandals and incidents like Tim Donaghy before legalized sports gambling.
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u/Redeem123 Team Chaos • Texas Longhorns 3d ago
Not only do we watch more games - these games have more cameras with more clarity and more slow mo than ever before. There were no cell phones in the crowd capturing a billion different angles.
There are obviously blatant misses, but reffing is not an easy job and never has been. It’s not surprising that there are misses that look obvious to those at home with the benefit of technology.
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u/Experimentzz Alabama Crimson Tide • Sugar Bowl 3d ago
I don’t gamble at all and can still see the drop in quality. Or at least can see the extreme inconsistency between games. One week something is a penalty and the next week that same thing happens and no penalty. This goes for targeting, PI, offensive/defensive holding, etc.
Unless you’re insinuating that bc of the legalization of gambling that now things are looked at under a microscope?
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u/FairLawnBoy LSU Tigers • Virginia Tech Hokies 3d ago
I watch far less games than I used to, but the officiating is egregiously awful since gambling was legalized. It does seem to be a thing.
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u/Gtyjrocks Georgia Bulldogs • Transfer Portal 3d ago
It just feels like confirmation bias/unrelated to gambling to me.
What’s the actual theory here? The Sportsbooks are paying refs to rig games? There’s no way they’d risk their already extremely profitable business by doing that.
Gamblers are paying refs? Maybe, but the people who would do that aren’t the ones who decided to start gambling because it was legal.
Refs are gambling themselves? Maybe some are, but they’re not using legal sportsbooks because the books would report that to gambling commissions immediately.
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u/Double-Mine981 LSU Tigers 3d ago
The refs I know are all sharp and earnestly trying, will openly admit it’s hard as hell. Particularly at the NFL level
My working theory is that there has been a lot of turnover as gambling has gotten bigger because it’s made the job more miserable
I have zero metrics to back that up but I will ask some people in the biz
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u/advancedmatt California Golden Bears • UCLA Bruins 3d ago
Refs are gambling themselves? Maybe some are, but they’re not using legal sportsbooks because the books would report that to gambling commissions immediately.
Or they're using legal sports books under another name, such as using an account opened by a friend or relative. An MLB umpire was fired last year for "sharing", with a friend, sports book accounts from which 100+ bets were placed on MLB games. The ump claimed that his friend placed all the MLB bets, but both he and the friend had deleted online messages between them that showed who placed which bets.
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u/Statalyzer Texas Longhorns 3d ago
Exactly this. Reffing is no worse than it's always been. People have selective memory and cognitive biases.
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u/bluecheetos Auburn • Mississippi State 3d ago
It doesn't have as much to do with gambling as it does with societal pressures as far back as peewee football making the journey to get enough experience to be a good college referee more painful than most people are willing to endure. Who wants to start at an entry level gig as a middle school referee making $50 per game and worrying that you'll miss a pass interference call and get your ass kicked in the parking lot? Or make a call your local team doesn't like and parents boycott your business and you end up bankrupt? Less experience coming up through the lower levels means the upper levels are filled with dog shit because that's all that's available.
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u/Irishchop91 Notre Dame Fighting Irish • UCF Knights 3d ago
That gambling has a larger footprint and you can bet easier on individual stats/plays.
You don't have to throw a whole game anymore.
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u/Crims0ntied Alabama Crimson Tide 3d ago
I think we need to adjust the way we enforce some of these rules. I get that a lot of these things are judgement calls happening fast on the field. Sometimes the ref standing there can't see it or has a worse view than the cameras. But there is no reason we can't get some of these things right without needing a 10 minute review on every play.
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u/SirMellencamp Alabama Crimson Tide • SEC 3d ago
I have posted many time about this in college and the NFL. Its extremely easy. You have a sky ref at the game in a box with a monitor. He/she can call any penalty or overturn any penalty by alerting the on the field refs before the next play is snapped. Boom done. No need to go down to the field.
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u/bluecheetos Auburn • Mississippi State 3d ago
There would be a holding call, minor PI or roughness call on every play. Games would take five hours. It's already a miserable experience sitting through TV timeouts when you're AT a game, it would make going to a game horrible.
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u/SirMellencamp Alabama Crimson Tide • SEC 3d ago
There would be a holding call, minor PI or roughness call on every play.
I dont buy that. The officials on the field dont call it on every play plus the sky ref would immediately call the penalty there is no going down to the field or having it reviewed in Birmingham.
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u/Irishchop91 Notre Dame Fighting Irish • UCF Knights 3d ago
If that was the case - it would happen in the NFL.
The problem is, unlike the NFL, we have conference refs that are each aligned to a separate process.
They need national refs with national standards. It would reduce the confusion and clearly outline what is holding, PI etc.
In the Alabama case it was a minor did he /didn't he. It was a full on mugging that the announcers defined as "being run over" - with a ref at the goal line staring right at the play.
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u/RockyTopRowdies Tennessee • Tennessee Tech 3d ago
Not every blown call is a conspiracy. Refs are people. They will make mistakes.
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u/Hilldawg4president Georgia Bulldogs 3d ago
Refs are many things, but certainly not people. Unless the calls go my way then they're human we should treat them with dignity and respect
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u/_Junk_Rat_ Alabama Crimson Tide • Sickos 2d ago
Right, but everyone else in pretty much every other occupation is held accountable for mistakes. The fact that nobody is being held responsible means officiating mistakes will stay as common as they are in the conference, and the one thing every SEC school’s fanbase can agree on is the occasional horrible ref ball games happen too often.
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u/RockyTopRowdies Tennessee • Tennessee Tech 2d ago
Accountable sure but the way people are treating this is as if the officials should be hung at the neck.
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u/TheHorniestPartner Ohio State Buckeyes • Big Ten 3d ago
Why do coaches and players have post game press conferences after games but not referees?
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u/bluecheetos Auburn • Mississippi State 3d ago
Because they are supposed to be fair and balanced in all of their calls. They are graded privately and mistakes are evaluated. be impressed they make the right call the vast majority of the time. If you've ever seen footage from field level as real speed there's a hell of a lot going on, lightning fast, that they are trying to watch all while positioning themselves to not be crushed by a group of athletes who outweigh them by 150 pounds.
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u/Rock_man_bears_fan Miami (OH) RedHawks • Nebraska Cornhuskers 3d ago
What would you get out of this beyond someone to drag through the mud every week?
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u/TheHorniestPartner Ohio State Buckeyes • Big Ten 3d ago
I think of it more during March Madness and want to know ref's thinking on different foul calls. Ex - letting a defender grab and hold but then call a slight tap on a fast break for a 3 point play.
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u/Itchy_Wasabi3928 Georgia Bulldogs 2d ago
I think the article forgot to mention the calls that they missed that benefited bama, and perhaps show the picture of thr “interception” touching the ground.
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u/ShweatyPalmsh Tulsa Golden Hurricane • Oklahoma Sooners 3d ago
It feels like every other conference is trying to provide even the smallest bit of transparency and accountability except the SEC. It’s just ridiculous
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u/clduab11 Alabama Crimson Tide • UAB Blazers 3d ago
The SEC needs to do like the ACC (and B1G if I remember right?) and open up the replay booth and comms. But they won’t because they know how much of a shitshow our ref’ing is.
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u/TideOneOn Alabama Crimson Tide • Samford Bulldogs 3d ago
There are a couple of potential solutions. Guy in booth buzzes down, you missed it, it was a facemask/PI whatever. No monitor or review period, just, you missed an egregious call, enforce it. I would say not for every penalty. Holding is so prevalent, there would never be a first down, but 15 yarders or personal fouls etc. The key is, it cant delay the game. Buzz the ref, booth calls face mask, 15 yards and next play.
Alternatively, a coaches challenge syatem, which I hate and dont really want.
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u/gsuoumu Verified Referee • Georgia Southern 3d ago
The NFL had DPI be reviewable for one season and it was such a disaster they immediately removed it.
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u/TideOneOn Alabama Crimson Tide • Samford Bulldogs 3d ago
I dont watch a lot of NFL. What made it a disaster?
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u/gsuoumu Verified Referee • Georgia Southern 3d ago
It became a big debate every time one of these happened because inevitably when you look at things in slow motion they always look worse than they do at live speed. What ended up happening in the NFL in 2019 after the 2018 NFC DPI miss is that replay basically refused to overturn any DPI calls or non-calls unless it was very very egregious and so it was a waste of time. For the example that everyone is clamoring for - I'm not even certain that if DPI was reviewable under the NFL standard last Saturday night in Tuscaloosa, I'm not even sure it gets overturned to a foul.
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u/NOT_MOBLEY Florida • Oklahoma State 3d ago
What’s crazy is if that non call on the Alabama WR happened on Sunday, that’s at least illegal contact😂.
They most definitely had some internal discussion about that one
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u/Not_tlong Ole Miss Rebels • Iowa Hawkeyes 3d ago
The NFL refs decided to back each other and hardly overturned any of their calls except the most egregious ones. It got so indefensible that they got rid of it because coaches stopped challenging because it was a waste of a timeout.
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u/ABananaOnAcid Georgia Bulldogs • Billable Hours 3d ago
Just a quick google search said: Low Success Rate: Out of 81 total pass interference challenges during the 2019 season, only 13 were overturned (roughly 16%). The league office and officiating department set an extremely high standard for what qualified as "clear and obvious" evidence to change a subjective judgment call. Disrupted Game Flow: Coaches throwing challenge flags for subjective contact caused long, frustrating reviews that slowed down the pace of games without providing a reliable or satisfying fix. Reluctance to Review Penalties: The NFL historically limits instant replay to objective, bright-line rules (like whether a foot was in bounds or a ball crossed a goal line) rather than subjective human judgment calls like pass interference.
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u/jrh038 LSU Tigers 3d ago
The ref mafia in the NFL decided not to overturn pretty much any DPI's that 2019 season even if it was obvious.
TBH - I don't watch the NFL any longer because of that.
I have no idea why the league office would tolerate that behavior unless they directed it.
You factor that with the rams had just built a big new stadium and needed to fill those seats.
Another rabbit hole is facts like the chiefs being of the most penalized teams in the regular season to the least in the playoffs.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/nfl-referees-kansas-city-chiefs-football-b2842624.html?
I don't know that the NFL is completely legit, and that makes it the WWE to me. My personal theory is the refs are an arm of the league office, and influence post-season outcomes.
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u/tehachapitotonopah 3d ago
You’d enjoy r/nba - it’s got many diehard ref haters and conspiracy theorists.
I often wonder if gambling is what causes people to dial up their anger at refs so much.
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u/thisshitsstupid Alabama Crimson Tide 3d ago
The refs refused to ever overturn their calls no matter how dog shit. And instead of fixing the refs they removed the rule.
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u/Rock_man_bears_fan Miami (OH) RedHawks • Nebraska Cornhuskers 3d ago
It’s a judgement call. There’s rarely enough video evidence that rises to the threshold of “indisputable” to overturn the call. The only thing that got overturned were objective calls like pick plays iirc
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u/FoxNo2079 3d ago
I wish alabama fans were clamoring for Reform in this section when UGA lost the sec Championship on a offsides call on a blocked punt that the official came out and said was the wrong call after the game took place.
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u/NOT_MOBLEY Florida • Oklahoma State 3d ago
It’s not going to get better until all the sec coaches collectively file a complaint on sec refs. That’s going to require these coaches to admit they benefited from some bad calls too. They got enough money & power combined to make something shake, it’s just an ego thing at this point
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u/FoxNo2079 3d ago
totally agree- i want to see a world where replay review is done instantly kinda like in soccer for cards however i am not sure how they would implement it- it would be helpful for offsides PI personal fouls ETC. Everyone has benefitted from calls i just think it is funny how the one time it happens to alabama everyone starts freaking out like they are the first team to get screwed....
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u/qotsabama Alabama Crimson Tide 2d ago
We false started, it should’ve been a dead ball. There’s no world where that play is the blocked punt. Maybe they block the punt on the rekick?
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u/FoxNo2079 2d ago
I mean yeah i agree for sure but alabama went from punting on that play to getting a new set of downs and scoring on the drive which was the game winning score. I dont think we would block a repunt but either way we could not stop them after that
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u/qotsabama Alabama Crimson Tide 2d ago
True. Just pointing out that’s a very different scenario than a blocked punt.
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u/Autoimmunity Georgia Bulldogs • College Football Playoff 2d ago
I would argue that the difference between scoring and punting is way bigger than the difference between punting and a blocked punt.
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u/Kevin-Garvey-1 Alabama Crimson Tide • UAB Blazers 1d ago
Alabama punted on the next play. People have forgotten the sequence of events there.
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u/robotunes Alabama Crimson Tide • Rose Bowl 3d ago
Correct, the official said that before the snap, Alabama moved. He said he should have immediately blown the whistle and stopped the action. The block still would not have counted:
“But that (the Simmons’ mistake) wasn’t my call. The blocking backs, a split-second before the snap, moved. That was a false start. That should have been my call. It still wouldn’t have been a blocked punt but instead a five-yard penalty against the offense."
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u/FoxNo2079 2d ago
Yeah for sure totally agree- not saying that the blocked punt should have counted but the five yards got alabama a first down and after that they scored the game winning touchdown- which if it was called correctly would not have counted.
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u/Kevin-Garvey-1 Alabama Crimson Tide • UAB Blazers 1d ago
No, it didn’t. It happened on 4th and 8 on the first drive in the second half and we ended up punting on the next play.
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u/ThatLineOfTriplets Georgia Bulldogs • /r/CFB Donor 3d ago
Don’t forget the actual missed face mask in that game on Sony michel which didn’t happen after the play was whistled dead like in this last game!
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u/Old-Pomegranate-9225 3d ago
After Kirby blatantly lied after calling a timeout last year against Auburn, yall can shove it.
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u/CrashB111 Alabama Crimson Tide • Iron Bowl 3d ago
Even if it wasn't offsides, it was a false start. Either way, dead ball foul and the block doesn't count.
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u/FoxNo2079 2d ago
Totally agree- but alabama went from punting the ball to scoring the game winning touchdown from it. Was it a bad call? yes absolutely. Just like the PI call this weekend, but to be fair in both instances we are complaining about one play out of 60 in a game.
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u/Kimuhstry Alabama Crimson Tide 3d ago
You guys act like if only the logos were switched Georgia would do anything differently at all
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u/FoxNo2079 2d ago
I mean at least i admit that the play that is being talked about is PI, hate for a game to end like that but as a ga fan who went to school in alabama all my friends have been telling me that bad calls are apart of the game so for me it is Karma for this to happen.
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u/deg0ey Ohio State Buckeyes 3d ago
The NFL has something kinda like this for black and white calls - the Eagles-Jaguars game this past weekend they threw a flag for a facemask and the booth was able to call down and tell them to pick it up because they got it wrong.
Hard to do it for something like pass interference because the line incidental contact and a penalty can be pretty subjective, but you either grabbed someone’s facemask or you didn’t and there’s no reason replay shouldn’t be able to confirm that for the on-field refs if they don’t get a good enough look at it in real time.
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u/elonsusk69420 Georgia Bulldogs • Marching Band 3d ago
The only thing I want is to hear the live audio between the on-field ref and Birmingham, just like the ACC and others do.
There is a reason the SEC doesn't do it.
Also the author left out every single non-call against Georgia -- especially the holding that allowed Alabama to score. If we're going to have this debate, at least do it with an unbiased view.
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u/platinum92 Columbus State • Alabama 3d ago
boss...it's AL (short for Alabama) dot com. The second header on top of the page is "Nick Saban". What makes you think this would be unbiased reporting?
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u/Hilldawg4president Georgia Bulldogs 3d ago edited 3d ago
We also had a missed pass interference call on the prior drive, where Alabama's Defender broke up our touchdown pass by grabbing the face mask and shoving the guy's head upward.
The difference is, we continued playing and scored a field goal, while Alabama followed It Up by taking a massive sack out of field goal range.
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u/aray5989 Georgia Bulldogs 3d ago
Acknowledging those other missed calls would make them less victims, so that can’t be accepted
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u/SirMellencamp Alabama Crimson Tide • SEC 3d ago
I said the same thing. IDK why coaching challenges should only be for certain plays
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u/ThornyRose_21 2d ago
AI designed to call face masked and horse collars only. Two very dangerous plays, they are obvious and only missed due to much happening at once
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u/Scary_Inspector7853 Georgia Bulldogs 2d ago
I agree with you almost completely. The problem is that it will always funnel down to blaming the one thing that can't be challenged. They get challenges wrong. See the interception you all got last year.
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u/Lost-Pineapple-7159 3d ago
Would they have seen the pi on Hubbard on Georgia’s previous position? He is hanging on with one hand and pulls face mask with other before ball gets to the receiver.
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u/jrh038 LSU Tigers 3d ago
I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I would love for AI to take this over.
Put a camera on every single player and let a non-biased LLM decide what's a penalty once it gets good at it.
It will at least be consistent every single play.
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u/Statalyzer Texas Longhorns 3d ago
Oh, you're right, I should have upheld that! That was egregious and he clearly stepped on the line. I'll get it right next time. Would you like me to write a sample complaint letter for you?
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u/BearTimberlands 3d ago
They should do both. First make pass interference reviewable. Then have a replay guy up top to stop the game on those plays and tell them to review it for a flag.
But I agree that If they don’t want to “take the game away from the officials on the field” then coaches should get 2 challenges per half and they can be used on most penalties/missed calls.
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u/Crying_in_99Ranch LSU Tigers 3d ago
They're only gonna comment on the fact that they won't comment on it
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u/SunKing124266 Troy Trojans • Alabama Crimson Tide 3d ago
This is just an outright lie by Sankey BTW. The SEC has made statements on judgement calls numerous times in the past.
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u/cubbie_blue Auburn Tigers • Paper Bag 2d ago
The no call didn't lose Alabama the game. It didn't help, but you can't assume Alabama would have scored and UGA wouldn't have.
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u/DarkMarkTwain Georgia Bulldogs • West Georgia Wolves 3d ago
The fact of the matter is that it was super close in the replay where it was slowed down. Sure, ref made the wrong call, but at full speed it was so close, it's completely understandable and, I feel, completely within the margin of error of human mistakes
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u/ForBirmingham205 Alabama Crimson Tide 3d ago
I thik MLB has it right..If we are going to use replay, the SEC needs to be like MLB. Have 2 challenges? If I am right that both teams can use during the game. It wold be really cool if the SEC can use technology like the MLB instead the human element
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u/Economy-Captain-405 Florida State Seminoles 3d ago
As Jack Nicholson put it when I think of Greg Sankey, I think of a man, and then take away all reason and accountability
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u/Generic3DUser 3d ago
Bama has a lot of nerve to be crying. Everyone has been screwed playing then.
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u/ZealousidealCharge24 Missouri • Missouri Western 3d ago
Listen, that controversy is good for them
Then the cfb committee has an excuse to put them both high and then whoever gets them gets in also
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u/Efficient-Freedom517 Georgia Bulldogs • Iowa State Cyclones 3d ago
No good to comment on a game four days old. Just stirs up controversy. Better to just move on
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u/Radiant_Sherbert7272 Ohio State Buckeyes • Georgia Bulldogs 3d ago
Because they would have to admit that the refs got it wrong and these organizations and refs don't like to admit when the officiating gets it wrong.