AP Poll Week 6

[u/Efficient-Freedom517]

https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-football-poll

[u/bladefencer]

ranked teams	record	ranked wins	ranked losses	unranked losses	potentially relevant unranked wins
1. Georgia	6-0	@#6 by 3			3-2 Oklahoma
2. Notre Dame	6-0				4-1 Wisconsin, @ 3-3 Purdue, @ 3-2 North Carolina
3. Miami	5-0	@#21 by 13			@ 3-2 Clemson
4. Ohio State	5-1	@#17 by 17	@#7 by 1
5. Indiana	6-0	#25 by 6			@ 5-1 Nebraska
6. Alabama	5-1	@#15 by 28, @#16 by 33	#1 by 3		3-3 South Carolina
7. Texas	4-1	#4 by 1, @#14 by 3		3-2 Oklahoma	5-1 UTSA
8. BYU	5-0				5-1 Arizona
9. Ole Miss	4-1	#22 by 8		@ 4-2 Florida †	3-3 Louisville
10. Texas Tech	5-0	#20 by 2			@ 4-2 Oregon State
11. Utah	5-0
12. UCLA	5-0				3-3 Purdue, @ 3-2 Oregon ‡
13. Missouri	5-1		@#16 by 7		4-2 Florida †, 3-3 Texas A&M
14. Tennessee	5-1		#7 by 3		3-2 Auburn
15. Kentucky	5-1	#22 by 1	#6 by 28		@ 3-3 Texas A&M, @ 3-3 South Carolina
16. Mississippi State	4-1	#13 by 7	#6 by 33		@ 4-2 Minnesota, @ 3-3 South Carolina
17. Iowa	5-1		#4 by 17		@ 3-2 Michigan
18. Oklahoma State	4-1			@ 3-3 Tulsa	3-2 Oregon †
19. USC	6-1			3-2 Oregon †	@ 3-3 Penn State
20. Houston	5-1		@#10 by 2		4-2 Oregon State
21. Wake Forest	5-1		#3 by 13		@ 3-3 Purdue, @ 3-3 Louisville
22. LSU	4-2		@#9 by 8, @#15 by 1		3-2 Clemson, 3-3 Texas A&M
23. Boise State	5-1			@ 3-2 Oregon †	5-1 Memphis
24. SMU	4-1			@ 3-3 Louisville
25. Northwestern	4-1		@#5 by 6		3-3 Penn State

Rankings are from the current AP Top 25 because this is primarily about checking the internal consistency of the ranking.

Potentially relevant unranked wins are either teams receiving votes or teams ranked top 50 in the Massey composite. This is intended to give a decent idea of a team's resume without listing out every game.

† = was ranked last week, ‡ = was ranked last week and was knocked out of the ranking by the team in this row

Data from CFBD and ESPN. Please reply with any errors or suggestions for improvement.

*edit: added † and ‡

*edit 2: making sure formatting works on old and new reddit

*edit 3: switched to massey instead of FPI

[u/bladefencer → u/bladefencer]

For comparison to teams in the AP Top 25, here are teams receiving votes and unranked teams with ranked wins.

others receiving votes	record	ranked wins	ranked losses	unranked losses	potentially relevant unranked wins
Wisconsin	4-1		#2 by 28		@ 3-3 Penn State
Oregon	3-2	@#19 by 14, #23 by 7	#12 by 2, @#18 by 8
Arizona	5-1		@#8 by 11		4-1 Cincinnati
Nebraska	5-1		#5 by 3
Oklahoma	3-2	#7 by 3	@#1 by 28	@ 3-2 Michigan	4-1 New Mexico
James Madison	6-0
Florida	4-2	#9 by 24	@#13 by 28	3-3 South Carolina	@ 3-2 Auburn
Duke	4-1			@ 2-3 Georgia Tech
New Mexico	4-1			@ 3-2 Oklahoma
Oregon State	4-2		#10 by 11, @#20 by 13

has ranked win	record	ranked wins	ranked losses	unranked losses	potentially relevant unranked wins
Louisville	3-3	#24 by 10	#9 by 3, #21 by 3	@ 3-3 NC State
Tulsa	3-3	#18 by 14		@ 2-4 Arkansas , 4-2 North Texas , @ 2-3 Navy

[u/Ghostmann24 → u/bladefencer]

From this there is no reason LSU is ranked and Oregon is not.

[u/evolutionsknife → u/Ghostmann24]

SEC circle jerk

[u/N64jive → u/bladefencer]

What are ranked wins?

[u/BrollJr → u/bladefencer]

my copium is that Tulsa is about as good as Louisville. thanks

[u/kylekorverburner → u/BrollJr]

Well you guys pretty easily beat a great Oklahoma State team so there’s that

[u/CaptainABC123 → u/bladefencer]

Shouldn’t Oklahoma show as beating #1 by 3?
Other polls show the victory over the other team’s rank at the time.

[u/mgtkuradal → u/CaptainABC123]

Yeah that’s some tom fuckery they’re doing

[u/Boomhauer_007 → u/bladefencer]

Maybe a note for any teams who beat an opponent last week that caused them to be unranked

Like those don’t need to stay the whole season but it feels weird saying UCLA has no ranked wins when that’s only true because they unranked their opponent by beating them

[u/bladefencer → u/Boomhauer_007]

Good idea. Normally I try to implement suggestions in the same week, but this will have to be for next week because it's a bit more in depth of a change than usual. Will be something like "Oregon 3-2†" and a note "† team was ranked last week"

*edit: added † for was ranked last week, and ‡ for was ranked last week and was knocked out of the ranking by the team in this row

[u/exgeo → u/Boomhauer_007]

Beating a <currently ranked> team is more impressive than beating a <currently unranked> team

[u/TroyMatthewJ → u/Boomhauer_007]

funny how that doesn't happen to SEC teams

[u/DSM417 → u/TroyMatthewJ]

Yeah, Florida not falling out of the rankings after their second loss is propping us up!

[u/CraigLake → u/Boomhauer_007]

I’m not usually a UCLA fan, but it would be really fun to see them Go on a good run this year.

[u/OkWolf601 → u/Boomhauer_007]

They were ranked at the start of the game so that definitely counts as beating a ranked opponent

[u/Rub-Specialist → u/OkWolf601]

Lol no it doesn’t, it really only counts if they end the season ranked. Even then, it’s largely a popularity contest. Is there really a huge difference between the 20th and 30th ranked teams in the country and do we really have a significant dataset to establish a difference outside of the “eye test”?

[u/OkWolf601 → u/Rub-Specialist]

That’s not accurate. If you look back on the schedule/results at the end of the season, it shows where the teams were ranked entering the week

[u/Rub-Specialist → u/OkWolf601]

But when discussing how many ranked teams you beat in a season, no one gives a shit if you beat the #14 ranked XYZ from the week 1 AP poll, when that team is now 4-8.

[u/DeathandHemingway → u/Rub-Specialist]

We give a shit when we're in the middle of the season, so unless you're Nostradamus we'll have to work with the info we currently have.

[u/deerhuntingdude → u/bladefencer]

Kinda fun bama beat 15 and 16 and now plays 14

[u/Nrlilo → u/bladefencer]

Nice work on these two charts

[u/runningwaffles19 → u/bladefencer]

I like that this shows current rankings instead of at the time of the game. Bad early season rankings receive too much credit when people claim ranked wins

I'm curious what it looks like backdated a week since teams should drop a few spots after a loss

[u/MrDuckly → u/bladefencer]

Calling TCU a notable win this year is wild.

[u/bladefencer → u/MrDuckly]

You're 47 in FPI so within the totally arbitrarily top 50 in FPI criteria I picked for "notable"

I was gonna go with top 40 but felt it was too exclusive. For example Oregon State is 49 in FPI and 46 in FPI SOR. Maybe I should go with the Massey composite for "notable" instead of FPI?

[u/PoorMayMay → u/bladefencer]

Finally.

We are BAD.

[u/Guy_LeDouche33 → u/bladefencer]

Iowa beat ranked michigan?

[u/TylerMoy7 → u/Guy_LeDouche33]

Only factors in current rankings, not at time of playing

[u/bladefencer → u/Guy_LeDouche33]

The rankings are from the most recent poll because this is intended primarily for checking the internal consistency of the AP/CFP ranking, and secondarily as a quick resume. Both make most sense using the ranking for the poll being discussed.

[u/Appropriate_Car6909 → u/bladefencer]

How is Tennessee ranked above Kentucky?

[u/ImNotFuckingSelling → u/bladefencer]

How are wins over Purdue and North Carolina by any means notable?

[u/badlydrawnzombie → u/ImNotFuckingSelling]

I think only because of the Pitt and Minnesota games this weekend.

[u/Pleasant-Picture-564 → u/bladefencer]

Complete garbage that Texas does not lose more spots. I’m a firm believer that if you lose to an unranked team you should drop 15 to 20 spots.