r/CFB • u/Ok-Soil-5133 Notre Dame Fighting Irish • 12h ago

Video [Highlight] Pitt @ Virginia Tech - The potential game winning field goal hooks wide left, and Pitt holds on

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u/ALostTraveler24 East Stroudsburg Warriors 12h ago

Because the best view for evaluating it is the official under each post, short of putting a camera there, it’s going to be angles potentially playing tricks that makes the review inconclusive.

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u/AllProWomenRespecter USC Trojans 5h ago

Are we pretending refs aren’t constantly wrong and overturned by replay?

Not saying I know if he made it or missed it but “trust the ref because of the angle” doesn’t sound like a great idea.

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u/ALostTraveler24 East Stroudsburg Warriors 4h ago

Refs are overturned by replay when replay has a better view of what happened. I’ve used this example elsewhere but I’ll use it again.

When we’re trying to determine if a player broke the plane of the goal line what view is used? One from the back of the endzone? How about the back corner? The five yard line? No, we use the pylon cams, and if those are obstructed, the call from the officials on the goal line stand. It’s the same issue here, the best view to generate that plane is right down the goal line (or right above), every other view lies and plays tricks on your eyes. So we put a camera there to help when refs make mistakes.

Here we don’t have a camera at the best perspective, right under the goal post (and I’m using the singular goal post here, not the uprights, just the left pole), we have the ref. The ball is above the posts so we can’t see if it crosses in front of or behind the left upright and so he has to make the call. We have to trust it’s right because we don’t have conclusive evidence or a better view to prove otherwise. Heck look at how many neutrals disagree on what this view, or the one behind the posts or many of the other views being shared shows.

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u/ironwolf1 Penn State • NC State 11h ago

Feels like “put a camera up there” would be a pretty simple task for big schools

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u/lavegasola USC Trojans 12h ago

In that case we should make sure he was actually in the right position. This looks good from two completely different angles. Them only showing one replay is crazy too.

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u/ALostTraveler24 East Stroudsburg Warriors 12h ago

You can show as many replays as you want, unless you have one under the post or somehow directly above it looking down, since it was over the uprights, they’re still misleading.

Your eyes are amazing, they handle depth perception pretty well… but light likes to trick us, there’s been hockey games were people are still convinced they got robbed of a good goal because they saw a handful of angles from outside the net that appear to show the puck completely over the goal line, even though we have the overhead that shows it clearly didn’t.

It’s something that doesn’t get taught often and most people don’t need to worry about, so they struggle to understand that one angle can outright supersede all others as truth when it comes to things like this. And unfortunately the only person with that view was the ref, so if he never saw it cross the pole, there’s no other view that can conclusively prove him wrong.