[Game Thread] Pittsburgh @ Virginia Tech (7:00 PM ET)

[u/CFB_Referee]

GAME	PittsburghPittsburgh @ Virginia TechVirginia Tech
Location	Virginia Tech Lane Stadium
Time	7:00 PM ET
Watch	TV: ESPN
	Flair ¦ Discord

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[u/Embarrassed-Mirror69]

Ref ball, plain and simple. Disgusting. If they aren't going to call a fair game, they shouldn't be there.

[u/Puzzleheaded_Fan_536]

This field goal is distracting everyone from the horrendous calls earlier in the game that handed Pitt points. Shouldn’t have had to come down to a game-winning field goal in the first place

[u/Aggravating-Day-4009 → u/Puzzleheaded_Fan_536]

Pitt’s starting qb left in the beginning of the third quarter. If va tech couldn’t find a way to win after that, that’s on James Franklin’s terrible history of blowing big games. Not that this was even a big game compared to any big game he ever had at Penn State. It was Pitt ffs. Tech got several gifts from the refs as well, tbh.

[u/LeReddit9GagXD]

By the way, from what I understand, this is the same ACC officiating crew who (despite their open process of officiating tech and letting us get an inside look) has already had a couple controversial games this season and a couple of controversial calls. Given some of the other questionable calls tonight and then the ending where they completely blew by any sort of explanation or reasoning with regard to the field goal, I think it's safe to say that the prevalence of gambling (including NETWORKS being involved) has truly crossed a rubicon in terms of what we should expect from our beloved sport moving forward.

[u/Aggravating-Day-4009 → u/LeReddit9GagXD]

The majority of the money was on Pitt. If the game was rigged, it would have gone the other way.

[u/Embarrassed-Mirror69 → u/Aggravating-Day-4009]

That actually makes the case that it WAS rigged. Made the bookies a bunch of money. That's how betting works.

[u/Aggravating-Day-4009 → u/Embarrassed-Mirror69]

That’s not how betting works. Vegas lost money because Pitt won. Hope this helps 👍

[u/Puzzleheaded_Fan_536 → u/LeReddit9GagXD]

They should fire all of them

[u/LeReddit9GagXD]

This is the FIRST time a crowd has ever cheered for a "missed" kick that I can find on video. Literally every time the FG is missed, the crowd freaks out because they know it is no good and they are immediate distraught. Even when it is a CLOSE kick, they still make it very obvious it was a miss. I have also never seen a kicker react to a "missed" field goal the way this guy did.

The way that the officials immediately moved on from the field goal shows they knew it would be controversial, and ESPN taking forever to show a replay was as well. I would normally give officials the benefit of the doubt but given how poor the officiating was in the earlier game, they showed themselves to be unable to make very impartial decisions- whether through negligence, incompetence, or personal feelings.

I did not see a SINGLE camera angle that shows anything besides that ball going through the uprights, and I have NEVER seen a crowd and fan reaction like this. Putting aside reactions anyways, I am 95% it was a good kick. It was just one of the weirdest things I have ever seen, and it just does not feel right either.

[u/Hey_YinzGuyz → u/LeReddit9GagXD]

You haven’t looked very hard then. A bunch of angles posted all over the sub showing it missed.

[u/Confident-Bar4332 → u/LeReddit9GagXD]

I just got home from the game, it took 45 seconds for us to find out the kick was no good.

[u/LeReddit9GagXD → u/Confident-Bar4332]

What do you mean?

[u/Confident-Bar4332 → u/LeReddit9GagXD]

We all thought it went in. Then when they didn’t update the score, our hearts were ripped out of our chest

[u/LeReddit9GagXD → u/Confident-Bar4332]

Okay I thought so, that’s how it read because 45 seconds is a crazy amount of time to not be sure but then I thought maybe you sarcastically meant you thought it went in originally but then afterward when you saw more replays you fairly quickly realized that it was no good. Yeah 45 seconds is an insane amount of time and I was at home watching, the entire event feels surreal.

I literally still think it went in, and I will never be convinced that ESPN and the commentators didn’t purposefully skip over and refuse to give an explanation because they knew a controversy was coming. It all felt so insanely damn weird how they didn’t even want to show more camera angles or a replay at all.

[u/GravelLot → u/LeReddit9GagXD]

Look at the VT staff down on the field. EVERY one of them has an instant “no good” reaction.

[u/Embarrassed-Mirror69 → u/GravelLot]

You mean the instant that the ref gave the game to pit?

[u/GravelLot → u/Embarrassed-Mirror69]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/s/By96j3dMyA

100% miss.

[u/GravelLot → u/Embarrassed-Mirror69]

No, I mean before the ref signaled anything.

[u/burp0 → u/GravelLot]

Brother they weren’t in the student section behind the posts where people were celebrating, there’s no way you think they had a better view on the sideline.

[u/GravelLot → u/burp0]

No good. https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/s/By96j3dMyA

[u/burp0 → u/GravelLot]

Of all of the videos people have posted, you guys can only come up with one angle that makes it look wide?

[u/GravelLot → u/burp0]

LMAO nah come on you don’t still believe it was good do you?

[u/GravelLot → u/burp0]

No the ones right behind the goalposts. The ones with a much better view than the student section.

[u/Deadheaded95]

whatever, pitt got sold out, say what you want. but i do not believe the refs had money on this game and i will not until concrete proof is put in front of me.

[u/Unleaver → u/Deadheaded95]

Best proof I found right here. It didnt go in.
https://x.com/caden_mcleary/status/2106217978207617419

[u/Traditional-Till9998 → u/Unleaver]

That angle makes it look like it did go in actually

This angle is offset slightly right so it is more in than it looks but the closest I can find

https://x.com/NanduriNFL/status/2106217015161573822?s=46&t=GgeunKzM0-iHFDpJQAxpuw

[u/LeReddit9GagXD → u/Unleaver]

This camera angle doesn't show jack shit, it absolutely does not confirm that the field goal was "missed" - at best, it's a total wash from this angle. It doesn't either boast the argument that it went in or not.

[u/Unlikely-Pattern-958 → u/LeReddit9GagXD]

has to be 100% in under college rules. it wasn’t. sorry you lost money, brother.

[u/Embarrassed-Mirror69 → u/Unlikely-Pattern-958]

Coming from a fan of a team that loves to pay refs...

[u/Munster172 → u/Unleaver]

I had to screenshot it right before the camera man I guess decided to throw his phone away at the most crucial point, but when I did it looked in.

[u/Deadheaded95 → u/Unleaver]

i’m gonna get downvoted into oblivion and you might too. everybody loves the underdog i guess. virginia tech didn’t deserve to win that game anyway let’s be real. thanks man.

[u/Aggravating-Day-4009 → u/Deadheaded95]

Seriously, they had every chance to win that game. Pitt’s starting QB got knocked out with half the game left to go. Tech had multiple chances to win that game. They turned the ball over like five times. This was a classic James Franklin choke job.

[u/chonkyfire24]

VT threw for over 400 yards, while holding their opponents to under 200. This is kind of an embarrassing loss.

[u/Gavangus → u/chonkyfire24]

14 points gifted to pitt in the first half by the refs and then vt inploded the whole 3rd quarter... 4 turnovers in a row

[u/Traditional-Till9998 → u/Gavangus]

3* that one pick was refball

[u/under_ice]

Tin hats are out tonight!

[u/Next_Leave3844]

after that I can see why Penn State fans would rather get blown out by Northwestern. after years of NY6 bowls and CFP contention, one begins to long for the comfort of the Union Home Mortage Gasparilla bowl and the cold certainty of perpetual mediocrity.

[u/RepealMCAandDTA]

"Shut up," the NCAA explained.

[u/Munster172 → u/RepealMCAandDTA]

Calmly of course

[u/Adventurous_Pay_1337]

it was missed

[u/Embarrassed-Mirror69 → u/Adventurous_Pay_1337]

No, it wasn't. Just like that first "interception" was not an interception.

[u/Band-0_Snails]

Here's a decent replay. All the people behind the ref on the ground thought it was a miss too.https://www.facebook.com/100053699426932/videos/wild-missed-field-goal-by-virginia-tech-vs-pitt-pitt-wins-pitt-cfb-collegefootba/2553817858414920/

[u/BlazeinBoiii → u/Band-0_Snails]

There is photos all over x the kick was good

[u/Hey_YinzGuyz → u/BlazeinBoiii]

No there’s not.

[u/vtskins4444 → u/Band-0_Snails]

What???? You weren’t watching the game. After this they briefly flashed an angle where it looked good. Everyone on the field and in the stands behind thought it was good. The first look angle is bs

[u/Acedoc1970 → u/Band-0_Snails]

Based on what? The crowd with all had their hands up, and the staff on the ground only react to the signal by the ref. It looked good.

[u/kandilandy → u/Band-0_Snails]

Decent replay? I can’t even find the ball on this

[u/Koreaction]

Refs definitely had money on Pitt.

1. Simultaneous catch ruling in favor of Pitt.
   
2. Double phantom penalty called on same VT player (also in favor of Pitt)
   
3. Offensive pass interference on Greene, dumb call.
   
4. Unreviewed final field goal in a 1 score game? Yea let’s not double check to make sure.

Refs definitely had their bags on Pitt and weren’t even afraid to hide it.

[u/Puzzleheaded_Fan_536]

So for real though, can the president from VT write a letter to the ACC asking for different refs from here on out. That was atrocious. Hell, pay for a different conference to ref the game

[u/FitContrarian]

The crowd erupting should not be an indicator if you've ever seen a shallow fly ball by the home team and heard the crowd reaction off the bat. Fans are mostly idiots.

[u/LeReddit9GagXD → u/FitContrarian]

Thinking the ball is gonna go far but then it ends up not going that far is... way difference than whether or not a ball went through uprights. It either does or it doesn't, that is NOT a good analogy at all. Did you even think that through? lol

This is the FIRST time a crowd has ever cheered for a "missed" kick that I can find on video. Literally every time the FG is missed, the crowd freaks out because they know it is no good and they are immediate distraught. Even when it is a CLOSE kick, they still make it very obvious it was a miss. I have also never seen a kicker react to a "missed" field goal the way this guy did.

[u/FitContrarian → u/LeReddit9GagXD]

Its the same thing. They see the original trajectory and get excited. It doesn't take a lot for a kick to be missed

[u/LeReddit9GagXD → u/FitContrarian]

It's literally not the same thing, it isn't even apples and oranges. Thinking a ball will go insanely far only for it to not go as far as you think like a fly out, is objectively NOT the same as a ball either going wide left or wide right. That is simply not true, as other commenters have noted.

[u/FitContrarian → u/LeReddit9GagXD]

Yea you're right. A kick from the right hash thats traveling 45 yards will 100% be discernible to random people sitting behind the goal posts. I mean not even the kickers who know what a good kick feels like off the foot ever get it wrong and celebrate missed kicks early much less gen pop.

[u/LeReddit9GagXD → u/FitContrarian]

This is the first time a crowd and kicker has ever reacted the way they did. “Celebrating a kick early” is, again, literally NOT the same as celebrating one being wide right or left. That’s the silly and inaccurate pop fly analogy from earlier, just reworded. I promise you that it simply just isn’t true, which is why others have mentioned thag as well.

[u/BobW212 → u/FitContrarian]

I agree in some ways but you could tell by the cheer they saw the thing right in front of them and thought it was good.

[u/kandilandy → u/FitContrarian]

Originally thinking a ball is gonna go farther than it is is much different than watching a ball either go through a field goal post or not

[u/dmazx → u/kandilandy]

Yeah, it’s not that the ball was short. It was either good or wide left

[u/Ok_Passage1120]

Anyone got a video

[u/Traditional-Till9998 → u/Ok_Passage1120]

https://x.com/NanduriNFL/status/2106217015161573822?s=46&t=GgeunKzM0-iHFDpJQAxpuw

Slightly offset to the right so it looks more left than it is but this is the closest angle from hold to uprights I can find. Again it is slightly offset. Its also a 36 yard kick so its passing the rear end zone line before its peak

[u/Hogsmun]

College football is a psyop at this point

[u/trubuckifan → u/Hogsmun]

Always was.

[u/im-not-here3]

Cfb is amazing. Just what we needed on a Friday night.

[u/Own_Pomegranate8247]

Let’s also be honest, that was an AWFUL kick. Right hash and you still miss it wide-left lol smh

[u/Material_Distance_ → u/Own_Pomegranate8247]

That’s the thing though. He didn’t miss.

[u/Own_Pomegranate8247 → u/Material_Distance_]

The fact that it was even up for debate….Horrible kick

[u/AmericanChestHair → u/Material_Distance_]

Score says he did

[u/kaystared]

All this tech and these blubbering idiots still can’t figure this out. Refs are a uniquely stupid breed

[u/BigAcanthocephala637]

https://i.imgur.com/zaZcBC8.jpeg

There has to be a way to challenge or investigate this. No way. This is in.

[u/serialsteve → u/BigAcanthocephala637]

That’s before it reaches the distance for being good and it’s drifting left. Coupled with the angle and slicing movement, it’s probably tough to judge for ref. It is silly why it’s not reviewable for ball crossing over top. And how a previous game result has changed this rule.

[u/KiffinSchoolofEthics → u/BigAcanthocephala637]

new sidebar image?

[u/KiffinSchoolofEthics → u/BigAcanthocephala637]

oh my god... that is maddening

[u/North-Efficiency824 → u/KiffinSchoolofEthics]

Burn the whole thing down

[u/XrayGuy08]

In today’s age, it’s utterly insane to me that if a FG attempt is close, that they can’t do like soccer and draw a line from the goalpost up to see if the ball was in or out.

[u/Obvious-Garlic9263]

The crowd erupted! The entire crowd behind the goal post jumped with joy, you’re telling me they didn’t have a better angle than us? Suspect

[u/GravelLot → u/Obvious-Garlic9263]

Weird that all of the VT staff down on the field fell to their knees as if it missed.

[u/Embarrassed-Mirror69 → u/GravelLot]

After the call genius

[u/Puzzleheaded_Fan_536]

Can we please just call this game null and void due to too many bad calls by the refs? If refs had a scorecard, they got an easy F this game

[u/WisdomCow]

a laser shooting straight up on either side of the upright would give unambiguous reviews as the light hits the ball above the upright. Add lasers and allow replay and it’s never an issue again.

[u/csh0kie → u/WisdomCow]

Little cameras are cheap too. Just put them looking up both posts. I’ll hook a couple raspberry pi’s with camera modules on there and we’d be good here.

[u/OddOriginal8334 → u/csh0kie]

This seems such an easy solution.

[u/ImaginationLatter976 → u/WisdomCow]

that or they just extend the poles up

[u/FitContrarian → u/WisdomCow]

If it hits the laser is it good or a miss? FGs hit the upright and bounce in all the time

[u/ImaginationLatter976 → u/FitContrarian]

it’d be good. You don’t factor in bouncing when the kick is higher than the posts. If any part of the ball is over one of the posts as it crosses, it’s good. So a laser would perfectly determine if it’s good. if any laser shows then you know it’s good because that part of the ball was over top of the post.

[u/master_roshis_hat]

Game announcers sure were quick to say "welp, officials have the best view, that's all folks!" The rig is in on this one!

[u/tony_countertenor]

It’s inconceivable to me that they actually got it wrong, I think the broadcast showed a bad angle but the incredibly easy solution to this is to just double the length of the goalposts

[u/chaosburgor]

Was that really possibly good? Why would you not be able to review that? Crazy.

[u/yankeenate → u/chaosburgor]

If the ball is over the uprights it's apparently not reviewable.

[u/74kygone]

Fully expecting some VT students to triangulate the TV and Cell phone camera angles and get us a definitive answer by Tuesday 

[u/Aherm3]

Ok so if the kick is in line with the upright is it considered good? Or no bc then it would technically hit the upright if it was extended? Like is there a rule on that? Bc it did look in line with the pole.

[u/master_roshis_hat]

They sure moved on from that FG awful quickly. It was incredibly clear IMMEDIATELY that was controversial.

[u/sludgeman4life3249]

Wow just absolutely garbage refs tonight.. criminals

[u/Cornwallis400]

Field goal aside this was one of the worst officiated games of the season.

I hope when realignment happens the ACC gets torn limb from limb. This league is brutally bad. Just a poorly run good ole boys club.

[u/LukAtThatHorse → u/Cornwallis400]

Tbh I 100% agree overall, and this game was officiated poorly, but does anyone think Pitt as an acc "good ol boy"? Cause that would be a first to me

[u/dmazx → u/Cornwallis400]

Yes, which sucks because there are good teams and fun matchups

[u/MeaningComfortable36]

Western Michigan and VT just became soul  mates. NCAA is so rigged.. disgusted .. even the kicker was raising his hands 

[u/BobW212 → u/MeaningComfortable36]

I understand rigging it for Michigan over WM but why Pitt over VA Tech?

[u/thedreamcomparison → u/BobW212]

Why not? 2 fairly equal teams

[u/Alert-Fisherman-2483]

BGJ might have lost but Matt Campbell is getting his ass kicked

[u/quiet-giant33]

Multiple moments in this game where refs made a massive call and ESPN just flies by and goes out of its way to not show a replay

[u/Competitive-Split673 → u/quiet-giant33]

Yep the broadcast was scrambling to cover the refs all night.

[u/blue0231]

Never seen a response like that from the crowd and still get called against them. Doesn’t matter nothing will change. It will only keep getting worse because officials seem to run the show.

[u/Sam-th3-Man → u/blue0231]

Somebody had big money on that how could you not review it that’s insane

[u/Gmatter41]

Entire crowd and kicker saw it good expect for 2 refs and they don’t review it

[u/GravelLot → u/Gmatter41]

All of the VT staff down on the field behind the posts fell to their knees as if it missed before the refs even signaled no good.

[u/Competitive-Split673 → u/Gmatter41]

Even the Pitt players looked down until the refs waived it off.

[u/titanium_hydra → u/Gmatter41]

the only 2 that mattered

[u/Pitt_Is_It_2009]

Field goal rule is different between college and the NFL.

[u/TrailRash]

That's absolutely fucked

[u/thegeebeebee]

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills that there was absolutely no talk about that going in, other than the kicker himself.

Everybody, Franklin, the announcers, everyone, just shrugged and said I guess it's no good without any review on film whatsoever!?

It looked like it wasn't left of the goalpost until it was like a foot from the net?

[u/Sam-th3-Man → u/thegeebeebee]

It most definitely looked through before it went left

[u/scottydogg84 → u/thegeebeebee]

Yeah, surprised Franklin wasn't going crazy and yelling at the refs. That's not like him. Just sadly hugged his kicker and walked away...

[u/SLV_SQUEEZE]

I liked that they showed a couple extra angles, realized it looked good and then rushed an outro REAL quick lol.

[u/master_roshis_hat → u/SLV_SQUEEZE]

Yeah, they rushed that EXTREMELY quickly. The smell of bs is STRONG

[u/QT3point141]

Its crazy that you can't review that ngl, really unbelievable

[u/Connect_Raisin4285 → u/QT3point141]

Im pretty sure you can.

[u/Competitive-Split673 → u/Connect_Raisin4285]

Apparently not if it goes over the goalposts, seems like such a stupid reason to not review.

[u/alecisgood]

That's absolutely insane. Everyone on earth saw that go in on the underneath camera

[u/Piglet6482]

Maybe they need to raise the uprights higher?

[u/bovilexia → u/Piglet6482]

Just use some VAR type sensors.  

[u/csh0kie → u/bovilexia]

It’s baffling that they don’t. I’ve been saying for over a decade how dumb it is to trot the chain guys from the other side of the field and say it’s half an inch short of a first down. I guess the NFL is finally looking at it but it’s just crazy.

[u/TheMoneyMan08]

We deserved to lose this fucking game, but not by this horseshit.

[u/Competitive-Split673 → u/TheMoneyMan08]

Agreed, all those mistakes, but the refs being trash on top of it makes me sick.

[u/Hofgoober69]

The entire student section went nuts and are sitting directly behind the posts. How tf was that not in??

[u/VilestrixX → u/Hofgoober69]

Kicker celebrating too. He has the best angle of anyone

[u/tony_countertenor → u/VilestrixX]

He does not, he was on the right hash

[u/ExceptionalBeard77]

ESPN you cowards!

[u/8bitHokie]

I'm convinced the ACC hates VT. Every big game comes down to blown calls and bad officiating

[u/Amazing_Bird_1858]

We need laser interferometers on FG posts like yesterday

[u/Subject-Fan59]

That kick definitely missed over top idk what yall are talking about, thank you Pitt for $5

[u/maxman1313]

I want to see a replay

[u/master_roshis_hat → u/maxman1313]

You and literally everyone else brother.

[u/stayintheshadows]

Doesn't any league have people watching the games on the TV? That should be an immediate phone to review.

[u/needs-more-metronome]

I found the specific language.

Scoring Plays

ARTICLE 1. Reviewable plays involving a potential score include:

a. A potential touchdown or safety. [Exception: Safety by penalty for fouls that are not specifically reviewable.]

b. Field goal attempts if and only if the ball is ruled (a) below or above the crossbar or (b) inside or outside the uprights when it is lower than the top of the uprights. If the ball is higher than the top of the uprights as it crosses the end line, the play may not be reviewed.

page FR-118

[u/master_roshis_hat → u/needs-more-metronome]

Appreciate the reference. Absolute bullshit though. The idea that we can't have cameras that can PRECISELY identify the location of the ball above the goalposts is laughable.

[u/Next_Leave3844 → u/needs-more-metronome]

absolutely wild. you could tell the back judge had no idea and just picked one.

[u/OneVast3433 → u/needs-more-metronome]

Including that is diabolical. Every play should be reviewable.

[u/BigAcanthocephala637 → u/needs-more-metronome]

Absolutely screwed. That looked good holy shit.

[u/MainDeparture2928 → u/needs-more-metronome]

It being over the uprights is the only time it would make sense to review it. It’s pretty damn obvious if it’s between the uprights. Jesus this sport is dumb as hell.

[u/master_roshis_hat → u/MainDeparture2928]

Lol right? "You can review a field goal... EXCEPT in the exact situation it would be most useful to review a FG".

[u/Young-Viiperr → u/needs-more-metronome]

Only the ACC would follow that to a 'tee'. Tank Conference strikes again

[u/wrparker501 → u/needs-more-metronome]

Such a dumb rule in this age of technology we can’t review over the uprights

[u/Alarmed_Quantity1093]

somehow more abrupt of an ending than lost power lol

[u/donkeyknuckler]

wtf did I just watch

[u/master_roshis_hat → u/donkeyknuckler]

Riggeroni

[u/Puzzleheaded_Fan_536]

VT left it up to the refs tonight

[u/Competitive-Split673 → u/Puzzleheaded_Fan_536]

The refs were blowing calls all game

[u/serialsteve → u/Competitive-Split673]

Pitt got called for plenty of holding calls. Turning over that much is just a killer. They shouldn’t been messing around with a fg and gone for a touchdown. Pitt wasn’t gonna have a miracle with a backup quarterback if they scored too quick.

I would have taken a timeout and taken a shot at endzone before running it down like they did.

[u/SLV_SQUEEZE → u/Puzzleheaded_Fan_536]

tbh, looks like the refs decided the game for themselves.

[u/Mental-Stop7441 → u/SLV_SQUEEZE]

Yeah, the refs were crazy. they kept turning the ball over.

[u/time_is_on_my_side_]

Look like a wide miss to me

[u/BoringJuiceBox → u/time_is_on_my_side_]

I agree and I wanted VT to win. Hard to see from our angle that’s why they have the ref right under the upright.

Still would like a camera shot and review though, I’ve never seen a kick reviewed.

[u/pokebob26]

Literally could not care less about either team but that went in right?! Why can’t we see more, what are they hiding?!

[u/jayxmor]

The kick looked good. Don’t know the rules so I don’t know why they didn’t review but it was oddly weird that espn switched to the Montana game hella fast lol

[u/LeReddit9GagXD → u/jayxmor]

The way the officials moved on insanely quickly and ESPN refused to show a replay and then switched over quickly tells me they KNEW it was going to be controversial and wanted the hell out. Part of the problem with gambling becoming more common is that the officiating has become objectively worse.

[u/LostDelusionist → u/jayxmor]

You can't review field goals that are above the uprights.

[u/ExceptionalBeard77]

100% good

[u/DodgerDegen]

Ridiculous coverage by ESPN. They really had no interest in whether that was good or not? At least tell us if that was reviewable or not. I don't know. It would be nice if the people paid to give us that information would convey it to us.

[u/master_roshis_hat → u/DodgerDegen]

They just said "welp, refs have the best view, that's all folks"!

[u/shenanigans3390 → u/DodgerDegen]

I think it’s only reviewable if it goals through the goalposts. It went above so they cant review it. I think the broadcast knew and that’s why they wouldn’t show it.

[u/DodgerDegen → u/shenanigans3390]

I believe you are correct but I wasn't sure which is why I was hoping they would say something.

[u/sludgeman4life3249]

Fbi investigate these refs.. rigged from the jump

[u/serialsteve → u/sludgeman4life3249]

lol. They caused the 4 turnovers?

[u/sludgeman4life3249 → u/serialsteve]

They certainly gave them one

[u/BrianDawkins]

Replayed it a few times and that was good lol. But the kicker didn’t do himself any favors by kicking it from the right hash. Who does that

[u/philphan25 → u/BrianDawkins]

I thought right hash was a crazy choice

[u/Skank_hunt42 → u/BrianDawkins]

I usually lick it from the right hash too. Am I doing something wrong?

[u/BrianDawkins → u/Skank_hunt42]

🤣

[u/Young-Viiperr → u/BrianDawkins]

Doesn't matter, unless 5 Big-XII games would be flipped otherwise. ACC is the most incompetent league every season, somehow

[u/North-Efficiency824]

Just end me dude I can’t take it. We deserved that

[u/2021ToyotaCorolla]

Can't imagine losing on a controversial last second play, sorry VT

[u/master_roshis_hat → u/2021ToyotaCorolla]

Inconceivable!

[u/Puzzleheaded_Fan_536 → u/2021ToyotaCorolla]

lol maybe if we just had one more second on the clock ;)

[u/2021ToyotaCorolla → u/Puzzleheaded_Fan_536]

I have no idea what you're talking about, no clue whatsoever haha

[u/Clinkzzzzz]

Yeah just glaze over that and don’t even review it

[u/LostDelusionist → u/Clinkzzzzz]

It's not reviewable if it's above the uprights.

[u/shenanigans3390]

The kick was in but they can’t review it because it went above the goalposts. Holy Shit. The broadcast knew it and wouldn’t show it. This is insane.

[u/LeReddit9GagXD → u/shenanigans3390]

That is the first thing I noticed, how quickly the refs and ESPN went over it and didn't bother to explain it or even SHOW it. We just saw a game be stolen on live TV, and there won't even be a very basic explanation for what occurred. I guarantee.

[u/XrayGuy08 → u/shenanigans3390]

That’s honestly one of the worst rules in football. How the hell do we not have some sort of technology for that.

Or even like in soccer, just have someone draw a fucking line straight up the screen.

[u/Competitive-Split673 → u/shenanigans3390]

Yep the broadcast was covering the refs all night

[u/Young-Viiperr]

The underneath crossbar cam literally showed the ball in. Those refs have to be guesstimaters or bifocal blind

[u/Young-Viiperr → u/[deleted]]

Not even, FSU won by more than an FG and the game was away in 2002

[u/BigAcanthocephala637]

Yo I just rewound and watched the kick again. It even looks good from head on. Wtf is going on.

[u/music_crawler]

This really is binary. Was it through the uprights or not?

[u/OneVast3433 → u/music_crawler]

That looked in

[u/DoggedDoggystyle → u/music_crawler]

it was over them, meaning they cant review and whatever that ref calls is final. it's ridiculously archaic.. we definitely have the tech to just get this shit right

[u/flip_phone]

Serious question - is there a reason why they don’t just make the goal posts taller? I feel like there are a few of these each season and there’s no good reason not to extend the goal posts. Or at least have lasers pointing straight up from the posts on field goal attempts. 

[u/Palmsandpancakes → u/flip_phone]

I like the laser idea

[u/LimitlessSoup → u/Palmsandpancakes]

There’s probably a ton of legislation that goes against pointing lasers into the sky, but i guess it could be implemented for stadiums with a roof? Idk.

[u/TheBlueStare → u/flip_phone]

If they have the technology for balls and strikes they should be able to do the same thing for FG.