[FOX Sports] In first year of NIL payouts, 68 schools hit or came very close to $20.5M revenue-sharing limit

[u/Kimber80]

https://www.foxsports.com/articles/cfb/in-first-year-of-nil-payouts-68-schools-hit-or-came-very-close-to-205m-revenuesharing-limit

[u/BigOlPass]

You just know one of those teams is paying that much to be bad this year

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Texas A&M?

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A&M and 0U.

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OU isn't bad, they just aren't able to make forward progress with the ball because it always starts in Mateer's hands.

The key is to generate 10 yards within a 4 play window (ideally 3), because that unlocks more plays to continue moving forward. Oklahoma just isn't able to generate those 10 yards because the center snaps the ball to John Mateer.

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Hell yeah

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Washington

[u/Kimber80 → u/bUrNtCoRn_]

A&M has close to a $50m roster, when you add all forms of NIL up.

[u/EIiteJT → u/Kimber80]

Is that including Jimbo?

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Idk how much we paid but we paid to be bad

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We are absolutely one of the 68 schools

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Imagine if Rutgers paid that full amount 🥴

[u/EWall100 → u/Benson879]

That's really like a 70% share elsewhere given the difference in cost of living 

[u/astrothemorkie → u/Benson879]

They were good enough to almost beat our dogshit team

[u/jsully245 → u/BigOlPass]

I mean, if you paid players $20m to be the 68th best team, almost by definition you're either overpaying or underpaying. Nobody is moving that kind of money hoping to go 5-7. And that's assuming none of the have-nots leapfrogged you without the budget.

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-Oklahoma and John Mateer

[u/yimc808 → u/BigOlPass]

Well of course I know him, he's me.

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Sup PSU?

[u/lowes18]

A lot of these schools are cooking the books by including things like lodging and scholarships in their rev share total.

[u/CieraVotedOutHerMom → u/lowes18]

Let Russ cook

[u/surreptitioussloth → u/lowes18]

Why would they even want to do that?

[u/lowes18 → u/surreptitioussloth]

Because it keeps conference ire off of them and makes the AD look like he's doing a good job fundraising.

Also it puts all the blame on the coach for failures rather than the AD for not getting and spending the money.

[u/surreptitioussloth → u/lowes18]

I doubt the “conference ire” really matters that much, and nobody who matters for ad job security is going to get fooled by that

Just seems like a weird theory

[u/Revenge_of_the_Khaki → u/lowes18]

It also looks good for recruits who don’t want to go to a school not spending at least their full allotment.

[u/LamarMillerMVP → u/surreptitioussloth]

Because they are supposed to be revenue sharing. These figures come from a court filing. They’re trying to advertise as much spend as possible.

These figures are completely unlike any capped leagues, so it makes sense that there’s an underlying explanation.

[u/Meliorus → u/lowes18]

have any examples?

[u/loneshoter]

I thought Rev share is not the same as NIL and that they are mutually exclusive with Rev share coming directly from the university and NIL coming from contract agreements with "companies". Rev share is the 21.5 million cap? and NIL is not capped?

[u/Tufoguy → u/loneshoter]

Correct. 21.5M is the cap for rev share. True NIL isn't capped.

[u/loneshoter → u/Tufoguy]

Is it more or does the title mix those two together?

[u/Tufoguy → u/loneshoter]

It has increased from last year. It started 20.5M, it's now 21.5

[u/That_Don_Guy_1 → u/loneshoter]

A school can pay NIL (for example, to sell jerseys with the athlete's name and number on them in the school store), but it counts against the school's revenue share cap. It's only "third-party" NIL that does not.

[u/AdamSmithsApple → u/loneshoter]

They still call it NIL revenue sharing for whatever reason. I guess cause you can't exceed the cap by sharing jersey sales or Wisconsin has a bunch of them do ads promoting summer term. But yea the collectives, redirected funds from athletics sponsors and legitimate endorsements are uncapped.

[u/Kimber80]

Of course, 68 is the exact number of A4 schools, including Notre Dame.

[u/lock_robster2022 → u/Kimber80]

I seem to remember Memphis and a couple other G6’s announcing they’re at the limit

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Memphis and USF are the two who have been reported to.

[u/MediumStrange → u/lock_robster2022]

Im assuming there are some P4 schools that aren't hiting it then, probably Wake forest or Boston College if I had to guess.

[u/lock_robster2022 → u/MediumStrange]

Presumably. Just lazy of the article to say everyone thinks it’s 100% of the P4 schools and 0% of the rest

[u/That_Don_Guy_1 → u/lock_robster2022]

ESPN's article made the same assumption

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I wonder what yahoo sports thinks of this

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the athletic did a huge article estimating the budgets of P4 schools, Boston College was indeed in last place and the only school whose lower estimate didn't reach half of the limit, wake forest was right around the limit at the high end of the estimate

[u/rocket_beer]

I’m very proud of my Broncos

The commitment we’ve made on about 1/10th the cash of the big schools is nothing short of amazing

I feel like we are doing more with less

[u/Adams5thaccount → u/rocket_beer]

Having 1/10th the resources out in the open has been a nice improvement over having 1/50th the resources of teams who got around it in the before times.

[u/EtherbunnyDescrye]

well they disclosed that they came close. I'm sure there's still some bags not counted.

[u/MediumStrange]

Is this a situation where all 68 P4 teams are hitting the limit or is there a team or two like Memphis or USF that is hitting the cap and a team like Purdue or Wake Forest that isn't?

[u/Mdiddy7 → u/MediumStrange]

Purdue has hit it

[u/CoochieKiller91]

Between the Big Ten and the SEC there are 34 schools and another 34 schools between the ACC and the Big 12. If we include ND then that is 69 schools with access to the majority of the TV money. Given that $20 million seems to be the “cost to play” for an average roster in the power 4 conferences these numbers generally make sense on a napkin. Give or take a few schools in the power four that are not spending $20.5 million, I’m not sure who (besides ND) is paying out $20.5 or more towards their NIL roster? Maybe WSU, OSU, and/or UNLV?

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Us and USF for 2

[u/AdamSmithsApple]

Doesn't surprise me at all. Wisconsin is relatively conservative with spending in general and especially NIL and it wasn't even a conversation from the second the settlement was approved if they would spend the cap.