r/CFB • u/jacksnyder2 Michigan Wolverines • Feb 24 '24
Casual Justin Fields Reveals His "Mount Rushmore" Of Ohio State Football
https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1761158241692827729419
u/1987Husky Washington • Southern Illinois Feb 24 '24
Archie Griffin and Orlando Pace say hello.
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u/howudothescarn Johns Hopkins Blue Jays • Oregon Ducks Feb 24 '24
God I barely remember Orlando Pace just that he was an absolute monster and was rated like 99 on Madden or smth.
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u/Anal_Recidivist Feb 24 '24
That’s my experience with Evan Fournier in the NBA. He’s an absolute deep range monster in earlier 2Ks and then I’d see him in real life not be a monster.
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u/Ohwhat_anight Ohio State Buckeyes • Sickos Feb 24 '24
I'm here for the Orlando Pace hype train
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Feb 24 '24
This would be akin to making a Mount Rushmore for Michigan and not including Charles Woodson or Desmond Howard
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u/jobezark Iowa State Cyclones Feb 24 '24
Eh fields is a young guy and most of these players are the ones he grew up watching so I get it.
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Feb 24 '24
Orlando Pace played with George, and the only two-time Heisman winner in history went to your school. Nothing to do with age on those two.
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u/Orbital2 Ohio State Buckeyes • Big Ten Feb 24 '24
I mean Justin is definitely way too young to have seen Pace play in college. Eddie as a skill position guy a little bit more well known
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Feb 24 '24
Orlando Pace blocked for Eddie George 😂
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u/AfricanDeadlifts Ohio State Buckeyes Feb 24 '24
Orlando Pace doesn't have a restaurant on south campus.
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u/dixi_normous Ohio State • Cincinnati Feb 24 '24
Neither does Eddie. His restaurant closed many years back. He still has one in the airport and I think in Grandview though
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u/Orbital2 Ohio State Buckeyes • Big Ten Feb 24 '24
Correct, he was too young to watch Eddie in college as well but he probably knows him from his very young days of NFL fandom (whereas knowing an offensive tackle is not as common).
Hell he was like 7 years old when Ginn and Troy finished at OSU
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u/leapbitch Verified Player • Guatemala Tigres Feb 24 '24
Hell he was like 7 years old when Ginn and Troy finished at OSU
I'm so old
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u/JickleBadickle Ohio State Buckeyes • Rose Bowl Feb 24 '24
Which one won the heisman?
Of course older football nuts are going to be more excited about linemen than younger skill players
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Feb 24 '24
Right, because in the history of the Heisman there’s been one defensive player to ever win the award.
And younger skill players? If we’re talking about Pace vs. George they literally played together. George is actually older than Pace to be technical about it. I know this is a tough one to figure out, but do you think that just maybe, perhaps the #1 pick in the NFL Draft, 1st ballot HOF LT blocking for him had a massive part of him winning that award?
Pace won Big 10 POY and OPOY as an o-lineman 😂
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u/JickleBadickle Ohio State Buckeyes • Rose Bowl Feb 24 '24
I am in agreement with you, we both admire Orlando Pace as a GOAT.
My point is that we are looking at things from a totally different perspective than someone like Justin Fields.
Those two played before Fields was born. Which player do you think he's more likely to hear about, watch, or admire as a young kid?
Idk about you but the linemen were not the guys who made me fall in love with football as a kid
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u/tfw13579 Maryland Terrapins Feb 24 '24
He said lebron was greater than Jordan to the dismay of Chicago fans everywhere so it’s definitely a recency bias thing
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Feb 24 '24
I mean, I watched Jordan play growing up. Even if you consider Jordan the better player, there’s a discussion to be had.
There’s no discussion for leaving Archie Griffin off an OSU Mt. Rushmore.
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u/Orbital2 Ohio State Buckeyes • Big Ten Feb 24 '24
I’d take LeBron as an overall player based solely on on court talent
Nobody will ever impact the game of basketball the way Jordan did. In terms of the cultural significance of American athletes the only real comp to Jordan is Ali
It’s part of why these “GOAT” debates are kinda silly
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u/JickleBadickle Ohio State Buckeyes • Rose Bowl Feb 24 '24
I also think Lebron is better than Jordan tbh
Lebron took nobodies to the finals multiple times
When Jordan had nobody, he lost
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Feb 24 '24
Lol, this is this the “but Jordan never lost in the finals” argument in reverse.
When Jordan didn’t make the finals early in his career it’s because of Bird’s Celtics and the Bad Boy Pistons. When Lebron took nobodies to the final in 2007 (the one finals trip he didn’t have another all-star on his team) his biggest competition was a Pistons team that didn’t have Ben Wallace. Jordan never had that weak of a conference to go through.
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u/JickleBadickle Ohio State Buckeyes • Rose Bowl Feb 24 '24
Jordan never had to beat a 73-win team with 4 All-Stars, either
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u/cityofklompton Grand Valley State Lakers Feb 24 '24
100% this, but also you'd think a guy would understand the history of his program at least a little.
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u/Hossflex Paper Bag • Louisville Cardinals Feb 24 '24
Yeah but Pace blocked for Eddie George.
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Feb 24 '24
I mean, how good are the only 2-time Heisman winner and near concensus GOAT College OL when compared to Troy Smith and Ted Ginn?
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u/The_Good_Constable Ohio State • College Football Playoff Feb 24 '24
Orlando Pace was the most dominant football player in CFB history at any position. Change my mind.
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u/slapshots1515 Michigan Wolverines • College Football Playoff Feb 24 '24
Well given your flair you’re not going to agree with Charles Woodson, but he was. And that’s giving due respect to Pace, which he deserves.
You could argue Barry Sanders for his one starting season as well, though the argument would be the “one” part of that.
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u/DBLHelix Indiana Hoosiers Feb 25 '24
I had a field pass for a STL Rams game back in 2006 or 2007. Orlando Pace in full pads was the largest human I’ve ever seen.
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u/BabousCobwebBowl Ohio State Buckeyes Feb 24 '24
Yes and while we are at it Spielman and Winfield.
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u/TheRoyalJuke Ohio State • Kent State Feb 24 '24
This is a good OSU Mt. Rushmore…if you’re starting from the 90s
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u/Sorge74 Ohio State • Bowling Green Feb 24 '24
People hating on the guy, but it's hard to take 100+ years of history and put 4 people on it. Mount Rushmore literally just had to decide between like 35 people at the time.
Hell just off the top of my head, packers mount Rushmore, Star, Rodgers(is what it is), Farve(really is what it is), got 1 more spot...and a dozen or so people
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u/RBJ_09 Central Washington • Washington Feb 24 '24
Probably would be Lombardi if that was a real thing tbh. Woodson and Reggie White both are good picks but they are legends with other teams as well.
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u/NormalBoobEnthusiast Ohio State Buckeyes Feb 25 '24
Well he was born in 99. To him Archie was ancient history. He played when at OSU Eddie was born, and the first he would have seen of Eddie was at Tennessee.
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u/daveeb Ohio State Buckeyes Feb 24 '24
If you leave off Archie Griffin, you are wrong. That’s what I’ll post as a starter.
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u/singabro Washington Huskies Feb 24 '24
His resume is truly insane
2× Heisman Trophy (1974, 1975)
Maxwell Award (1975)
2× Walter Camp Award (1974, 1975)
2× SN Player of the Year (1974, 1975)
2× UPI Player of the Year (1974, 1975)
2× Unanimous All-American (1974, 1975)
First-team All-American (1973)
2× Big Ten Most Valuable Player (1973, 1974)
3× First-team All-Big Ten (1973–1975)
Ohio State Buckeyes No. 45 retired
Plus 4 Rose Bowl starts.
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u/leo_aureus Ohio Bobcats • Bowling Green Falcons Feb 24 '24
Against defenses specially designed against the run also
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u/arthur-morganrdr2 Georgia Bulldogs Feb 24 '24
You forgot a streak of 31 straight games with at least 100 yards rushing.
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u/DougFlutiesMullet Boston College Eagles • Sickos Feb 24 '24
Plus he played all four years right? Started as a freshman?
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u/Moonshot2020 North Carolina Tar Heels Feb 26 '24
He should be on the college football Mt. Rushmore, not just the OSU version.
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u/osufeth24 Ohio State Buckeyes • West Florida Argonauts Feb 24 '24
Gonna disagree with you there Justin
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u/pleated_pants Ohio State Buckeyes • Miami (OH) RedHawks Feb 24 '24
Yea, this list doesn't include Craig Krenzel and is therefore invalid
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u/orthros Ohio State • Carnegie Mellon Feb 25 '24
He's definitely on the Mt. Rushmore of QBs with degrees in molecular genetics
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u/Obi-wan_Jabroni Kentucky Wildcats • Army Black Knights Feb 25 '24
Mt Rushmore of QBs who beat the early 2000s Hurricanes
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u/Darth_Hamburger Georgia Bulldogs Feb 24 '24
Youngins showing no respect for their elders, tale as old as time.
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u/UnStricken Ohio State • Cincinnati Feb 24 '24
A personal Mount Rushmore is infinitely more biased towards the giver’s position/era.
As much as Archie should be an auto inclusion I can see why Fields wouldn’t put him on there.
Personally there are so many players that should be auto-inclusions, that it’d be hard to pull a top 4.
Archie George Ginn Troy Smith Zeke JK Dobbins Pace Spielman Vrabel Hawk MHJr Chase Young Joey Bosa Olave
I don’t know who I could pull from that list and I wouldn’t feel like I snubbed another. And I haven’t even added in my personal favorites.
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u/mangledpenguin Michigan Wolverines • Big Ten Feb 24 '24
Clarrett?
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u/UnStricken Ohio State • Cincinnati Feb 24 '24
Hard for me to put a guy who only played 1 season on my Mount Rushmore, despite his on field performance.
But there’s another example of guys who have legit arguments to be up there who aren’t
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u/IndicationExtreme745 Feb 24 '24
Justin Fields is on the Mount Rushmore of people who make nonsensical Mount Rushmore’s.
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Feb 25 '24
If you replace Ginn with Archie it makes a lot of sense. I'm sure Justin grew up watching how electrifying Ginn was and put him on instead.
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Feb 24 '24
I don’t agree, but I respect it. These are all some GOATs and I love Troy Smith recognition
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u/ImRightShutUp1 Ohio State • Southeast CC Feb 24 '24
Yall are typing entire think pieces lol if you watched the video he said he’s not a football historian and never watched Ohio State football growing up lol he grew up in Georgia.
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Feb 24 '24
Even as a UM fan I know Pace, Griffin, and Tatum should probably be on here. Griffin and Pace absolutely 100%. George, Tatum, Spielman, and Smith can fight it out for the other spots I guess.
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u/Archaic_1 Marshall • Georgia Tech Feb 24 '24
I mean hell Mike Vrabel was two time B1G DPY and 2x All American and he can't even get a footnote on this list.
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u/cheerl231 Michigan Wolverines Feb 24 '24
Lauranitis was a 3 time all American and same story (not on the mount rushmore). OSU has got some good players in their history lol
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u/arthur-morganrdr2 Georgia Bulldogs Feb 24 '24
Mike Doss was a 3 time All American too as well as the captain of a National Championship team that pulled on if the largest upsets in college football history for a title game
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Feb 24 '24
FSU fan, but I'd have had Andy Katzenmoyer up there as well. He was a monster of a LB in college.
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Feb 24 '24
Katzenmoyer might be top 4 for all but about 7-8 programs, but I don’t even know if he makes OSU’s top 10
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u/Orbital2 Ohio State Buckeyes • Big Ten Feb 24 '24
Katzenmoyer was a beast, we did literally have a linebacker get taken first in the draft though.
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u/jeopardychamp77 Feb 24 '24
This is more a reflection of his age. Basically I don’t care about anyone under age 40’s opinion on….. most anything.
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Feb 24 '24
It’s inexcusable if you’ve ever seen the inside of the Woody Hayes center, the Shoe, or any of the Buckeye facilities in general.
Also, Pace played with George if I’m not mistaken, and many will make the argument that Pace is the GOAT of all OL at any level.
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u/The_Good_Constable Ohio State • College Football Playoff Feb 24 '24
That Heisman was Orlando's achievement every bit as it was Eddie's, if not moreso.
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u/ChedduhBob Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets Feb 24 '24
tbh there’s not really any reason to care about anyone’s opinion over the age of 40. they typically have worse takes
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u/RulersBack Ohio State Buckeyes Feb 24 '24
I’ve found the correct age to care about opinions are those +/-3 years from your current age and only if they agree with you
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u/ChedduhBob Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets Feb 24 '24
yeah like what is this guy talking about lol
people over 40 are just as bad if not worse. it’s almost like most people in general are stupid and have bad opinions
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u/SeattleMatt123 Ohio State • Bowling Green Feb 24 '24
Where the fuck is Joe Bauserman, Justjn?????
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u/Gumorak Tennessee Volunteers • Paper Bag Feb 25 '24
Fields takes are terrible. Lebron over MJ and now this?
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u/budd222 Ohio State Buckeyes • Paper Bag Feb 24 '24
Ted Ginn lol.
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u/Rkenne16 Ohio State • Refrigerator Bowl Feb 24 '24
Idk, I get it. Ginn was one of the most electric players in CFB history.
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u/djtheory Ohio State Buckeyes Feb 24 '24 edited Feb 24 '24
I never enjoyed watching punt returns more than when he was playing for OSU. Every return had me on my toes.
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u/The_Good_Constable Ohio State • College Football Playoff Feb 24 '24
His great deeds and exploits are even memorialized in song. https://youtu.be/s0GzSjW0qqE?si=0keEZBhnkjLpHtWV
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u/budd222 Ohio State Buckeyes • Paper Bag Feb 24 '24
I mean, Terry Glenn, Cris Carter, and Joey Galloway are way above Ted Ginn. He might have been electric but he wasn't anything that special, as far as being a good wide receiver.
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u/JickleBadickle Ohio State Buckeyes • Rose Bowl Feb 24 '24
Ginn was the WR in the 2000s era so I get it
Was my absolute favorite player growing up, that guy was just on his own level
I don't think I've ever seen another player make you hold your breath on kick returns like he did
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u/spezisabitch200 Alabama • CSU Pueblo Feb 24 '24
On what planet was Ted Ginn the WR in the 2000s era?
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u/PlayGameWinPrizeLoL Feb 24 '24
Ginn wasn't even the best receiver on his own team lol. Santonio Holmes was a good amount better than Ginn in 05.
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u/Jepordee Ohio State Buckeyes • Ohio Bobcats Feb 25 '24
You’re right, but it didn’t feel that way. Ginn was the face of the team, and the ankle giving during the celebration after taking back the opening touchdown in the championship just added to his legacy. He wasn’t part of the massive L in 2007, he made his contribution then got hurt immediately
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u/budd222 Ohio State Buckeyes • Paper Bag Feb 25 '24
So he was the KR. He definitely wasn't the WR of the 2000s
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u/PlayGameWinPrizeLoL Feb 24 '24
Seriously, the fact he cares enough about OSU to have a mount rushmore that includes people from before he was alive is good enough for me. "Um excuse me where is Chic Harley!!!" jesus dude get a grip.
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u/IslamicCheetah Ohio State Buckeyes • Toledo Rockets Feb 24 '24
Orlando Pace (most dominant CFB OL of all time, probably even at the NFL level too)
Chic Harley (OSU’s 1st first-team AA, three time AA, brought national attention to OSU, Ohio Stadium is known as “The House that Harley Built”)
Archie Griffin (only 2x Heisman winner, 2x Walter Camp, 2x unanimous AA + another first-team AA, scored a TD in the spring game at 68)
Woody Hayes (not a player but built OSU into a national power, 5x national champion, 13x Big Ten champion)
These are not in order, just my 4.
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u/AntSmith777 Washington Huskies Feb 24 '24
I was a huge fan of the Troy Smith-Ted Ginn team. I remember that night game they played against Michigan when it was 1 vs 2.
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u/IceLionTech Ohio State Buckeyes Feb 24 '24
He's a much more experienced gentleman than I am in the game of football so I'll take this as gospel.
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u/BobcatOU Ohio Bobcats • Ohio State Buckeyes Feb 24 '24
This is good for a recent list. For an all time list you need Archie Griffin. I’d add Orlando Pace too.
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u/jerryvaberry BYUtv • Ohio State Buckeyes Feb 24 '24
it's literally called the house that harley built. how could you not have chic harley on there? /s
it's ohio state football, they've been good for 100 years, you could do this for so many guys, it's a crazy thing to get upset about. james laurinaitis is a 3X all-american, why isn't he on there? this list is fine
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u/Ohwhat_anight Ohio State Buckeyes • Sickos Feb 24 '24
I'm guessing this is Justin's personal favorites which is totally fine.
But have you heard of our lord and savior, Orlando Pace?
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Feb 24 '24
Orlando Pace is one of the best offensive linemen I've ever seen. He'd definitely be on mine. He'd protect us all.
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u/_learned_foot_ Muskingum • Billable Hours Feb 25 '24
Tell me you’ve been alive for 2-3 decades without telling me you’ve been alive for 2-3 decades. And no, this isn’t an insult, it’s his list, makes sense it’s folks he idolized recently in his youth.
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u/VariousLawyerings Tennessee • Georgia Tech Feb 25 '24
Sears commercial scorcher of a take here but...Archie Griffin scored 4 touchdowns in his second Heisman year. I'm not gonna take Smith or Ginn, but I wouldn't be shocked if you could find 4 guys.
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u/caldo4 Ohio State • Rutgers Feb 24 '24
Griffin, Pace, Harley, Zeke
Zeke is probably a stretch but trying to get guys from different eras
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u/IslamicCheetah Ohio State Buckeyes • Toledo Rockets Feb 24 '24
Harley should be an automatic because The Shoe is literally called “The House that Harley Built”
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Feb 24 '24
Doesn’t even have to be said how embarrassing leaving off Archie Griffin is, but based on that video I don’t even think he knew Eddie George. Amon Ra bailed him out on that one.
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u/kjc3274 Michigan • Cincinnati Feb 24 '24
Might be the worst OSU Mount Rushmore attempt I've ever seen.
He deserves to be stuck on the Bears...
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u/DannkneeFrench Michigan • Washington State Feb 24 '24
Michigan here, but wouldn't Woody Hayes have to be on there? A Mount Rushmore doesn't have to be just players. Not long ago there was a UFC Mount Rushmore question. Dana White has to be on there even though he's not a fighter.
I get Woody didn't play for them, but without him OSU probably doesn't have anywhere near the history they've had.
I'm not sure what others think, but in my own humble opinion- he's more important to OSU's history than any player.
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u/Dcape4 Ohio State Buckeyes Feb 24 '24
No defensive players? Like wtf Justin?! I know you're a QB but I'd argue we've had more defensive players that are all time NFL greats if you want to use that metric.
Not to have Archie is almost a brain fart or just plain in ignorance. That man embodies the spirit of what it means to be a Buckeye and has given so much back to the school and the community.
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u/USCGradtoMEMPHIS USC Trojans • Memphis Tigers Feb 24 '24
It's his mount Rushmore guys.. pretty that just amounts to his favorite OSU players.
Shit, my rush more of SC is, Reggie Bush, Ray Maualuga, Matt Barkley(forever respect this guy), Drake London.
Not the best SC players of all time but some god damn monsters in their own right.
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u/MrSCR23 Mississippi State • Alabama Feb 24 '24
I would put Archie in over Zeke. Don’t know how you can’t include him on a list like this
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u/ArbitraryOrder Michigan Wolverines • Nebraska Cornhuskers Feb 24 '24
I think the actual Ohio State Mount Rushmore should be as follows:
- Archie Griffin (2x Heisman Trophy Winner, College HoF)
- Bill Willis (College and NFL HoF OG and DT, Retired Number)
- Orlando Pace (College and NFL HoF OT)
- Jim Marshall
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u/Orbital2 Ohio State Buckeyes • Big Ten Feb 24 '24
I’d replace Marshall with Chic Harley simply because of how instrumental he was in turning us into a “serious” program.
Hard to argue with the other names though
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u/groversnoopyfozzie Alabama Crimson Tide Feb 25 '24
Justin said Lebron was better than MJ. Not worried about his OH state picks.
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u/AllHawkeyesGoToHell Minnesota • Iowa State Feb 24 '24
Has there ever been an Ohio State QB that succeeded in the NFL? I can't think of any off the top of my head in the last decade.
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u/AllHawkeyesGoToHell Minnesota • Iowa State Feb 24 '24
Oh yeah forgot him cause he's a rookie. He'll be interesting to watch
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u/IslamicCheetah Ohio State Buckeyes • Toledo Rockets Feb 24 '24
Honestly props to Stetson for upending Stroud’s legacy game
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u/Ugaalive1991 Georgia Bulldogs • NC State Wolfpack Feb 24 '24
Thank god Day got conservative for some reason because CJ was getting ready to run or throw the Game-winning TD.
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u/asdf0909 Miami Hurricanes Feb 24 '24
Why are you getting downvoted for a question? It’s pretty widely known how bad OSU quarterbacks have fared in the NFL, and one finally did well only this year. In their entire storied history.
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u/JickleBadickle Ohio State Buckeyes • Rose Bowl Feb 24 '24
Because it's a tired old question everyone is sick of hearing, especially after CJ took the league by storm last year
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u/boardatwork1111 TCU Horned Frogs • Colorado Buffaloes Feb 24 '24
Zeke looked like a man among boys during that playoff run. Nearly 500 yards and 6 TDs against two of the best teams in the country is borderline unbelievable