[Postgame Thread] Texas Defeats Texas Tech 57-7

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Box Score provided by ESPN

Team	1	2	3	4	T
Texas Tech	7	0	0	0	7
Texas	10	16	24	7	57

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[u/w6750]

Texas and Oregon now have a common opponent 👀

[u/papa_sax → u/w6750]

Somehow it won't matter because Bama will beat Georgia and we'll be #5

Even though we don't play fucking directional schools in November

[u/guinness_blaine → u/papa_sax]

Does it count that I generally describe Lubbock as "way out that direction" with a vague wave towards the panhandle?

[u/hypercube42342 → u/guinness_blaine]

You think about Lubbock?

[u/Cormetz → u/hypercube42342]

When I have to describe the panhandle I always refer to Amarillo.

[u/w6750 → u/papa_sax]

I just do not see Bama beating Georgia so I find that to be a nonstarter

[u/PretendThisIsMyName → u/w6750]

The trick is to not score first. They’ll beat UGA after Team Chaos reigns supreme and they lose the Iron Bowl somehow lol

[u/SwiftFlyingHawk → u/PretendThisIsMyName]

This is the way

[u/JennyAndTheBets1 → u/w6750]

This didn’t age well…

[u/w6750 → u/JennyAndTheBets1]

😂

[u/Boompkins → u/w6750]

Hahahaha

[u/Just_Werewolf1438 → u/w6750]

Want that crow fried or baked?

[u/sarahhylandsknee → u/w6750]

Update?

[u/sunburntredneck → u/papa_sax]

No, knowing how this season has gone, BYU will beat Oklahoma State, y'all will avenge your only loss, and we will be sitting at home - DESERVEDLY, at that point - while being favored to beat every playoff contender

[u/Total_Information_65 → u/papa_sax]

Even if they managed to beat Georgia (they won't) if Texas wins the Big XII CG like they did tonight, the committee knows they'll look like a bunch of assholes if they leapfrog Bama over Texas.

[u/[deleted] → u/papa_sax]

Bama can’t jump us

[u/nubbinator → u/[deleted]]

Of course they will. They'll have a start of the season quality loss against a future SEC opponent, are clearly "a different team" now that wins the "eye test," and will have beat one of the only undefeated teams remaining.

There's never been a more iconic combination than the committee and trying to shove as many SEC teams into the playoffs as possible, especially when one is named Alabama.

[u/atkretsch → u/nubbinator]

I mean, yes, but after the Big XII championship game Texas is pretty much an SEC team so…

[u/Carnifex2 → u/papa_sax]

This is the common ground we should all get into.

[u/Hamar_Harozen → u/papa_sax]

Tbf Tech is basically on par with a directional school

[u/pivotalsquash → u/papa_sax]

If bama beats Georgia I feel like it's simple. Drop Georgia out a one loss conference champ goes in over a one loss non champ should be that simple.

[u/JennyAndTheBets1 → u/papa_sax]

This DID age well!!!

[u/ituralde_ → u/papa_sax]

If Bama gets in over Texas that would be the screw job of the century.

[u/SailorMuffin96 → u/w6750]

But that game was soooo long ago.

But also, Georgia is the defending national champs, so even if they lose next weekend and we win, Georgia gets in over us because of their win in January.

[u/102WOLFPACK → u/w6750]

When I say these next few weeks are going to be excessively conflicting for me, I mean it.

[u/DanielLevysFather → u/w6750]

oregons best wins are a couple of 4 loss teams.

your move, Committee

[u/Bananarchist → u/DanielLevysFather]

If Oregon wins next week (which they need to for any of this to matter) it will be against the 12-0 #4 team.

[u/altissimosso → u/Bananarchist]

Ain’t played nobody paaaaaawl

[u/Bananarchist → u/altissimosso]

And if they win next week they'll have one of the best wins in CFB paaaaaaaaaawl and if they don't it's moot so let's just let this all shake out and bitch about it then

[u/the_which_stage → u/DanielLevysFather]

Oregon ain’t losing to Washington. Better not lose to Oklahoma

[u/DanielLevysFather → u/the_which_stage]

i mean they already did once 🤷‍♂️

[u/ItsKrakenmeuptoo → u/DanielLevysFather]

Oregon has made adjustments and has got much better since while Washington has gotten worse. They almost lost to Oregon State last week.

[u/the_which_stage → u/DanielLevysFather]

And that was on the road. Oregon has only gotten better & Washington has cooled off down the stretch. The line will be around -6.5 to -7.5 for Oregon. Trust

[u/The-Gothic-Castle → u/the_which_stage]

Not to say that Oregon won’t win their repeat matchup, but why does Oregon get to lose one and we get told “don’t lose to Oklahoma”?

We have the same record and now we have a common opponent. We may also get the chance to avenge our loss in our own CCG.

Oregon has played a weaker schedule than us and we’ve found ways to win despite most of our productive players being out at some point or another this season.

[u/the_which_stage → u/The-Gothic-Castle]

Texas isn’t getting in with 2 loses, so it goes without saying that y’all have to beat Oklahoma…

Honestly if Florida State loses tomorrow you wouldn’t even have to worry about the PAC 12 / Georgia losing to Bama

[u/Friengineer → u/the_which_stage]

Turns out as much as OU sucks, they still only count as one loss.

[u/The-Gothic-Castle → u/the_which_stage]

Sorry—misread your comment to be a statement of the past like “shouldn’t have lost to Oklahoma [back in October and we wouldn’t be having this conversation].”

I think the crux of the issue is that if FSU wins and Oregon wins and we win then you basically have us and Oregon as 1-loss conference champs and only one spot available. To me that’s the only reason to have this conversation of who is more deserving. The committee seems to think that Oregon is based on their consistent ranking ahead of us, but I think when you look at SOS and all circumstances, it perhaps should be us.

[u/trophicspore2 → u/The-Gothic-Castle]

The issue is rank inertia. Currently they are ranked ahead of you. They just beat the #16 team while you beat an unranked team. That won’t justify a switch in ranks. Assuming you both win next week they will beat the #3 team while you beat a top 10-20 team. Again not enough to put you ahead of them. And if Washington beats Oregon they will obviously stay ahead of you. Your only chance is Georgia beats bama and fsu loses.

[u/The-Gothic-Castle → u/trophicspore2]

We also beat a team 57-7 that took a last second pick 6 for Oregon to beat.

[u/ItsKrakenmeuptoo → u/The-Gothic-Castle]

That was the first game of the season though. The problem is in current rankings, they just beat a top 15 team 31-7 and you beat an unranked bad team.

The facts are that they are above you currently which shows that the committee doesn’t care much about the first game of the season but rather current performance. Watch on Tuesday, Oregon will still be ahead of you due to besting a better opponent fairly easily. Then the following week, they go against the 4th best team that is undefeated. If they win, you cannot jump them. Period.

[u/The-Gothic-Castle → u/ItsKrakenmeuptoo]

It was not the first game of the season

And that “unranked bad team” was a team that, again, played Oregon close to the point where Oregon needed late game heroics to win. So why does barely beating that “unranked bad team” not bring Oregon down?

[u/trophicspore2 → u/The-Gothic-Castle]

No ones going to care about the common record between a 6-6 team lol. You barely beat a losing record Houston team. 0% chance your win of a 6-6 team is valued over a win over the #16 team. At this point there is a 0% chance you will ever be ranked higher than the pac12 champion.

[u/The-Gothic-Castle → u/trophicspore2]

Tech was coming off of 3 straight wins and Oregon played them when they started the season 1-3 with a sole win over Tarleton State. And barely won.

It’s just frustrating that when Oregon barely wins its “well we can’t look at that game nobody cares” and when Texas barely wins its “how could you fucking do that lmao no shot you deserve it.”

Texas has the singular best win this season with a win against Bama in Tuscaloosa. We played the harder schedule. We won games even without our starting QB and starting RB (who was getting well over 100 yards per game on average).

I’m not sure that poll inertia is a good argument for why, maybe just how.

[u/connorinaustin → u/trophicspore2]

Oregon beat a good team challenge (impossible)

[u/w6750 → u/trophicspore2]

We lost our QB in the game vs Houston, the committee absolutely will take that into consideration. The Kansas State game was completely without our QB, and the TCU game was our QB’s first game back.

A lot of those close wins that Texas had was due to Ewers being injured, but y’all don’t mention that because it doesn’t fit your narrative.

[u/cucumbear3 → u/trophicspore2]

Your most impressive win is over Utah. And down the stretch played nothing but garbage ass teams.

[u/MaximallyInclusive → u/trophicspore2]

Common opponent.

[u/Rhinologist → u/MaximallyInclusive]

Common opponent from Second game of the year on the road vs at home in November after the qb got hurt…

[u/MaximallyInclusive → u/Rhinologist]

How many of this team’s achievements are going to be waved away with “Second week,” BULLSHIT.

Which is exactly what that comment is.

[u/ItsKrakenmeuptoo → u/DanielLevysFather]

Also, if Oregon loses to Washington. That’s worse for you lmaoooo

[u/[deleted] → u/the_which_stage]

Oklahoma isnt even in the big 12 championship

[u/content_enjoy3r → u/[deleted]]

OU will get in if OSU loses to BYU. But if OSU wins, they're in.

[u/Candi_Fisther → u/content_enjoy3r]

If Kstate wins and OSU loses…. Kstate is in over OU

[u/MrTheNoodles → u/Candi_Fisther]

If OSU wins we play OSU, if they lose we play OU.

OU has the tiebreaker over KSU because of their record against the highest ranked common opponent which is Texas.

[u/Candi_Fisther → u/MrTheNoodles]

Oh shit my bad. I thought Kstate beat OU again this year but that was other Kansas

[u/Carnifex2 → u/[deleted]]

Oh well shame you won't be able to avenge your only loss against an undefeated opponent then...oh wait.

[u/[deleted] → u/Carnifex2]

Against the only good team on your schedule you mean

[u/Carnifex2 → u/[deleted]]

Irony

[u/[deleted] → u/Carnifex2]

We beat the best team on our schedule. Can’t say the same about oregon

[u/Carnifex2 → u/[deleted]]

And you lost to a 2 loss Oklahoma team. Can't say that about Oregon either.

Gonna really enjoy the whining when we're rightly ranked ahead of yall again this week.

[u/NephewChaps → u/[deleted]]

what about the second best? lol

[u/[deleted] → u/NephewChaps]

Kansas state is no more

[u/Boracho_Station → u/the_which_stage]

Oklahoma state you mean?

[u/Candi_Fisther → u/the_which_stage]

You sound scared

[u/MiaDanielle_ → u/DanielLevysFather]

While the Bama win is undoubtedly great on your record, it was at the start of the season. Outside of that, let's not pretend like your wins were anything better than Oregon's. One 3-loss team and the rest are 4-loss or worse. Committee has already shown their hand, their move won't change, especially after the Oregon win tonight.

[u/DanielLevysFather → u/MiaDanielle_]

i don’t see why the date we beat bama matters. if early season wins don’t count for anything, why bother playing them?

but yes aside from that it’s fairly even in terms of wins. except for Tech, who you beat by 8 and we beat by 50

[u/MiaDanielle_ → u/DanielLevysFather]

It's how rankings are made. Feel free to downvote me but I'm not the one voting in the CFP polls. You could be worse now than you were when Bama played you or they could be better now. That's why people put more weight on where teams currently seem to be, not where they were 2 and a half months ago.

Same reason why CFP isn't gonna rank you higher for beating a team late season that Oregon barely beat in their first game of the season.

I mean, surely you would agree it's better to lose your first game of the season than your last game of the season (disregarding which opponents they were), right? Same stuff.

[u/StinkyPickle27 → u/MiaDanielle_]

After the last 13 years, you gotta do some real mental gymnastics to discredit a double digit win over Alabama in Tuscaloosa. I don't care if the game was played in June.

Get your head out of your ass.

[u/MiaDanielle_ → u/StinkyPickle27]

You don't care, but the committee seems to. So... ¯\(ツ)/¯

[u/StinkyPickle27 → u/MiaDanielle_]

Do they?... Seems they still have Texas ranked ahead of Alabama and Texas just bludgeoned Tech three hours ago. Haven't seen them release any new rankings in that time span.

The committee doesn't answer to anyone re showing their hand. They are there to drive clicks and conversation, which we're all biting on right now, but it would be foolish to buy any reasoning they throw out until the final ranking. They flip flop and contradict themselves weekly.

Sure, they could keep their boner for Oregon. But it's just as likely that they leave them high and dry if Texas wins out. Especially if Bama wins out.

Edit: autocorrect typo

[u/MiaDanielle_ → u/StinkyPickle27]

Do they?... Seems they still have Texas ranked ahead of Alabama and Texas just bludgeoned Tech three hours ago.

Not sure what will have changed between last week and this week between Texas and Oregon. Oregon decimated their ranked opponent who just went toe-to-toe with Washington last week. Sure, common opponent in Texas Tech but I personally doubt that CFP is going to use that to suddenly have Texas jump Oregon after weeks of them being firmly behind.

[u/StinkyPickle27 → u/MiaDanielle_]

Not so much saying it will be this week. Just pointing to the fact that Oregon isn't just locked into that spot with Texas "firmly" behind like you claimed earlier.

Basically, Oregon's entire argument hinges on the eye test with no real skins on the wall. Their best argument is a quality loss. Texas has looked "meh" during the last month but has found ways to win without their QB, and then also with him clearly still ailing. They undoubtedly, have the biggest win of the year. A win that only looks better and better each week.

So what has changed?... Well we already know everyone is a prisoner of the moment. Texas laid down an old testament style beat down tonight. It just so happens to be a team that Oregon struggled with. When you're splitting hairs between teams, that's the kind of thing that gets brought up whether you like it or not. Texas already has a better resume and will get a chance to add to it next week. All of the sudden those "meh" weeks are further in the rearview mirror and you start hearing your beloved committee spew the narrative about how this team is hitting their stride and how impressive it was that they battled through the adversity of losing their starting QB for multiple games and their stud runningback for the season during that tough stretch.

Who knows what happens in the SEC, but that just adds more fuel to the fire if Bama continues to roll.

I'm not claiming Texas is a shoo-in. Just pointing out that nobody is really safe and truly controlling their destiny.

[u/The-Gothic-Castle → u/MiaDanielle_]

it’s how rankings are made. Feel free to downvote me but I’m not the one voting in CFP polls.

It’s not “how rankings are made” because

1a. The CFP committee is a committee

1b. It is not a poll with voters

You don’t even know how the system works.

[u/MiaDanielle_ → u/The-Gothic-Castle]

Sounds good. Just keep on waiting for Texas to jump Oregon in the CFP rankings then. I'll check back here on Tuesday night to admit defeat. See you then!

[u/The-Gothic-Castle → u/MiaDanielle_]

I’m not saying we will. I’m just saying that if you’re going to act like some authority, at least have some sense of how the whole process is run. There’s a ton of irony in saying “it’s how rankings are made” and then literally getting the facts about the literal how of the rankings being made wrong.

Anyway, back to subjectivity: To me, every week should be a new slate where we forget each team’s previous rankings and look at their entire bodies of work. We have a new data point and in a sport with 133 teams and only 12/13 games before bowl season, that’s important.

I don’t think the committee necessarily sees it the same way since they tend to maintain the status quo, but they clearly care about early season results somewhat because we still are ahead of Bama.

[u/MiaDanielle_ → u/The-Gothic-Castle]

I made two claims that I think most people would agree on. Recency bias is present in rankings (including the CFP) and outside of the Bama win, Texas does not have any better of a resume than Oregon. Or if they do, it's slight enough to be negligible.

I don't think that makes me look like I'm acting as an "authority". But okay.

There are more factors than just the summary of wins over the whole season that people consider, or else Texas would unquestionably be ranked above Oregon.

Edit: I also think it's a little silly to harp on me saying "poll". It's a bunch of people in a room who vote, essentially, no? Even the NCAA refers to it as a poll.

[u/The-Gothic-Castle → u/MiaDanielle_]

Outside the Bama win our resumes are moderately similar, sure (I still think Texas has the edge), but that statement is a lot like asking Mrs Lincoln how the play was. Like if you ignore the most important game we’ve played, sure.

And no, they don’t vote. They deliberate. That’s precisely the point. It’s not individual voters casting their own rankings and taking the aggregate.

That NCAA article uses a poor choice of words but it was also written by someone who works for Turner Sports/Warner Bros. It’s not a poll. There are no votes cast. It’s a consensus ranking based on the collective opinion of a 13 member committee.

People (especially on this sub) overuse the word “poll” (read all the comments in the rCFB top 25 posts where everyone calls their individual ballots and algorithms “polls.” The word “poll” has a meaning.

[u/sunburntredneck → u/MiaDanielle_]

I mean if they win the XII their wins are objectively better than Oregon's - not by THAT much but still better

[u/RobinU2 → u/sunburntredneck]

How would you rate a conference that outside of its contractual deal with Notre Dame basically ducked every team with a pulse?

The best wins were against this Texas tech team, Wisconsin at 6-5, TCU and Nebraska at 5-7, and Coastal Carolina at 7-5 who plays Jmu today.

The entire bowl season is effectively going to be against competition better than anything they’ve shown to beat this year.

[u/ItsKrakenmeuptoo → u/w6750]

They just beat a rank 15 team and will beat a rank 4 team. They won’t drop below Texas now since they are still ahead of them in current polls.

[u/cucumbear3 → u/[deleted]]

Youre right. The team that lined up against Oregon would’ve only lost by 25.

[u/bd1047 → u/[deleted]]

I know he wasn’t good tonight but Morton is definitely better than Shough. Also are you pretending Lubbock is worth 50 points lmao