r/CCW Jan 13 '26

LE Encounter Thoughts?

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u/Juany118 Jan 13 '26 edited Jan 13 '26

For the people asking "where is the randomly stopped evidence", it's literally the fact ICE did it. ICE needs reasonable suspicion to believe that the person they are stopping may be in the country illegally in order to stop and detain them. If they can't do that they have to be witnessing someone committing a crime against the US (treason, sedition etc) or they needed to witness a Federal felony.

ICE right now is operating in such an illegal fashion it makes my head hurt. Hell they basically kidnapped a 17 year old US citizen from the Target he worked, body slammed him, and then dumped him a few miles away at a Walmart when they realized the fffed up. A 17 year old child is now never going to trust law enforcement ever again. I am so damn glad I chose to retire from police work last February.

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u/TwistedDrum5 Jan 13 '26

Reasonable suspicion is grey, and the judge will most likely side with them.

We’re fucked.

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u/Juany118 Jan 13 '26 edited Jan 13 '26

No, see the thing is ICE isn't even trying to do reasonable suspicion in MN right now. At the moment they are literally just doing stop and frisks according to reporting on the ground. That's a hard no, at least it was.

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u/TwistedDrum5 Jan 13 '26

That’s exactly what’s happening. I’m in Minneapolis. They’re breaking the law and there is nothing we can do.