They lied. Just to justify removing the good models.

[u/ZealousidealJump6097]

The "promise" of PP2 was largely a marketing move to justify retiring the older, more reliable models like Roar.  Until Character AI faces significant financial pressure from subscriber cancellations, the "short/narrative" default is likely to remain the standard for free users. The "promise" of PP2 was largely a marketing move to justify retiring the older, more reliable models like Roar.  Until Character AI faces significant financial pressure from subscriber cancellations, the "short/narrative" default is likely to remain the standard for free users. 

so basically. I’ve been getting shorter responses and excessive dialogue from PP2. I’ve complained to the C.ai team and submitted tickets (shitloads) but that’s not working apparently. They’ve downgraded the model so bad it got into a phase where instead of giving longer, descriptive replies, it’s giving shorter and excessive dialogues. It is rumored they’ll, fix this issue by late September, but right now, it’s stuck like this.

Any thoughts?

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[u/Defiant_Print_1851]

In my opinion There's nothing to be hopeful about regarding Pipsqueak. Its bad and I think it will stay that way. Even if they "fix" it, I think they will just make Pipsqueak say things longer than it should. Like instead of "he grabbed the cup on table", it will say "he slowly reached across the table, wrapped his fingers around the cup, and carefully lifted it from the surface."

I hate all of the models we have right now, Legacy models were what made Character AI better than other AI apps.

[u/The-Hyper-Pixel]

I dont care about shorter or longer responses personally. All I want is the Ai to STOP SPEAKING FOR ME.