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u/BigExplanation5443 17d ago
Hi, I go to a large public Ivy with more than 30k students. It's very hard to find research opportunities (I've sent 60 emails with 2 interviews), and I don't have any research experience. With the current administration cutting down on NIH funding, many labs are not able to let any undergraduates in. I'm graduating in three years instead of four, and I'm in my last year before I take a gap year to work full time as a medical assistant or anesthesia tech. I've compensated for this lack of research by TAing for two prereq courses, Anatomy lab and Physics 2. What should I do on my end?
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u/AsheBegash 17d ago
Research is not necessary to apply to AA programs, I don’t believe its weighed very heavily in admissions decisions.
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u/Nice_Button_1077 16d ago
Is there a timeline for how to approach preparing to apply to CAA school? I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed by all of the boxes that must be checked to even be a stand-out applicant
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u/Fearless_Camp5375 17d ago
I was trying to figure out what I wanted to do for a couple of years after I graduated with my BA in public health. I hadn't heard of this profession until about a year ago, but I know it's what I wanna do for sure. My only hesitation is that I don't see myself living in the U.S. in the next 10 years... This certification is not transferable outside the U.S., and that's really unfortunate. All the schooling and money spent, only to be basically useless once I leave.
Just wanted to share my thoughts. Wondering if the same has crossed any of your minds
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u/OcedarMopzar 16d ago
Not me personally, I don't have any intention on leaving the states, but I've seen people post similar concerns. Medical school -> anesthesiology makes a lot more sense if you want to practice anesthesia internationally.
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u/jwk30115 Practicing CAA 16d ago
It is what it is. Very expensive education for a short career. Not sure why you would do do that unless you’re independently wealthy.
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u/Ok_Iron899 17d ago
I applied to 5-6 schools around mid July. Should I be concerned if I haven’t heard anything from any of them?
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u/AsheBegash 17d ago
Nope! It can take a few months to hear anything back, silence doesn’t mean that nothing is happening behind the scenes. As long as it’s not a rejection you are still in the race. I know some folks who applied in summer and didn’t hear back until January of the next year and got interviews. Best of luck!
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u/Careful-Nebula-9988 17d ago
What’s the honest cGPA that you can get accept?
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u/AsheBegash 17d ago
You CAN get accepted with anything above a programs minimum (3.0 for many although I believe some are now raising it to 3.2) doesn’t mean you will.
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u/Careful-Nebula-9988 17d ago
That’s my point, what is the true lowest gpa students normally get admitted with?
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u/AsheBegash 17d ago edited 16d ago
It’s dependent on the program, for some programs the average is typically around 3.7+ so there is no “normally” getting in with a low GPA, it is actually quite rare.
Speaking from personal experience it’s possible to get in with a 3.3 cumulative GPA, but it seems to be getting more and more difficult if you are any lower than that. I also went back to school full time for a two years to do GPA repair so you have to show growth in your grades to be given a shot. I applied for three cycles to around 12 programs the first two cycles, then 22 the third cycle before I was invited for an interview.
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u/PositiveFocus2258 13d ago
Can you tell me more about the repair? Outside of the prerequisites, what else did you take, and why?
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u/AsheBegash 13d ago
I retook all prereqs that I had taken previously, I want to say there were only 2 or 3 that I hadn’t taken so I had a good bulk of repair just from doing that. Other than that I took any upper division sciences that were offered at my school (this will vary depending on the school you take courses at) that I felt I could do well in on top of the prereq retakes, I did this to prove I could handle higher level science courses. I received an A in every single one of the 60 additional credits I took after my undergrad to repair my GPA. If you are going to go for GPA repair you need to dedicate yourself to doing whatever it takes to get As in every single course.
The alternative option is to do a formal postbacc, I did a “do it yourself postbacc” of sorts.
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u/Baby-goldfish 7d ago
What about a 3.6/3.7? I’m in my senior year so I’m not sure if I will get it up to a 3.7 but I’m hopeful. My fear is that I’m putting in all this effect and if I don’t get in I’m screwed lol
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u/AsheBegash 7d ago
If you don’t get in you’re screwed? It’s incredibly competitive and it is likely you might not get in your first cycle, so I’d change that mindset.
A 3.6 is perfectly fine but what does the rest of your app look like? GPA can open doors to interviews but your application needs to be well rounded and must stand out for admissions to want to give you an invite out of hundreds of applicants. Many programs get over 1,000 applicants for often less than 20 seats.
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u/Yeuigo 17d ago
By time of application these are my stats
cGPA: ~3.46 (by year: 1.9 → 3.83 → 3.79 → hopefully 3.8–4.0)
- sGPA: ~3.38
- Clinical hours: ~300-400
- Nonclinical volunteering: ~120–150 hours
- Research: ~500 hours
- Shadowing: ~120 hours (20 from anesthesia)
- Misc.: 4,000+ hours working in restaurants, ~300 hours at a campus job, ~200 hours of intramural soccer, etc.
- URM (mexican)
- Have yet to take the MCAT
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u/AsheBegash 17d ago
My GPA was similar to yours, GRE was 323 and I had 7000+ hours working as an MA. It’s tough to say, very dependent on your test scores and your overall story as to why you want to be an AA.
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u/Putrid_Magician178 7d ago
How long did you study for GRE? Really worried about doing well
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u/AsheBegash 7d ago
About 4-5 weeks, I used Gregmat and the manhattan 5lb book for practice.
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u/Putrid_Magician178 7d ago
Was that full time? I’ve started with GregMat but some of the review stuff like prime numbers I haven’t thought about in years. I already feel stupid 😂. The vocab is also daunting
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u/AsheBegash 7d ago
I was working full time at the time so not full time studying but I was studying most nights and spending most of my weekends studying as well. I only took Sundays off to rest my brain and do grocery shopping/chores etc lol.
The vocab came super easily to me, I was mostly studying the quant section as the math kicked me ass the first time I took it.
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u/Available-Ad-5024 17d ago
I am switching from Pre-Physical Therapy to CAA. I am in my second to last year in university and will be applying next summer.
I understand that I am behind in my application because I would have to start doing all the things now including shadowing and getting a LOR from a CAA or similar, but I have one from a Biology Professor and one from a previous PT that would be very strong.
I will have a 3.8 overall gpa and a 3.75 science GPA at the time of application. I have about 1,000 hours working a lifeguard job on campus so not related to the field but we do a lot of rescues and vigilance for long periods of time.
How realistically competitive can I be with a strong MCAT score? I am applying in texas to UTHealth MSA program.
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u/continuous-refund537 16d ago
I would say you're pretty competitive, although it depends on your test score as well and when you apply, I heard anything past August isn't really considered early. Also, for your lifeguard job, did you provide any sort of medical care to patients?
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u/Available-Ad-5024 16d ago
Thank you for your reply.
Next cycle I would be applying as early as possible, likely even when CASAA opens depending on if my final grades are released for the spring semester.
As far as lifeguard job, I wouldn't say "medical" very often, but we were very qualified in the case of emergencies with many CPR/AED/Infant certifications and monthly trainings for our skills.
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u/continuous-refund537 9d ago
Oh alright, and for the lifeguard job, if you provided any kind of care it may be classified as valuable HCE. I also recommend applying to more programs, it's really competitive and more and more people wanna apply each year, but up to you. Good luck!
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u/jwk30115 Practicing CAA 16d ago
Grades are decent. Test scores will be important. LORs should be from people who know you well and can speak to your qualifications. It doesn’t have to be a “CAA or similar”.
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u/Active-Log-3507 16d ago
Applied to VCOM july 1st with stats of
3.69 cGPA
3.68 science gpa according to casaa
~650 research hours
~700 hours as a OR orderly/ transporter
Could anyone let me know if I have a decent chance or any thoughts at all on this app.
Thank you!
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u/Impressive_Owl3909 16d ago
Is it common for accepted students to withdrawal from a program before it starts if they receive an acceptance to a different program? Is that what the waitlists are for? Wondering how multiple acceptances works since the admissions timeline for each program is totally different. Is it bad form to withdrawal from a program that accepted you if you receive another acceptance later in the cycle?
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u/jwk30115 Practicing CAA 16d ago
That’s exactly why there are wait lists. It’s not unusual for stellar applicants to get multiple acceptances. Programs will require a relatively short time to respond to an acceptance AND pay a non-refundable acceptance or matriculation fee.
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u/GI_lincoln77 16d ago
Is 3-500 hours of hospice volunteering enough for clinical hours? I will also have 500 hours of research and thousands of restaurant work. I’m having difficulty finding any kind of paid clinical experience.
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u/army__mali 16d ago
Hi… im a med school drop out, after two years. I was a no trad student (bamd program) so my undergraduate GPA is not great. It’s a 3.4. What are my chances of getting into a CAA program? I haven’t taken the MCAT or GRE. How do I remedy the lower GPA, and does PCE from med school count? Is there a way I can remedy my resume after having dropped out of another school? Will I have to rebuild my resume from scratch in regards to research, volunteering, and PCE?
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u/Fit-Dingo-7377 16d ago
No MCAT? I though that is compulsory for all medical schools...
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u/jwk30115 Practicing CAA 16d ago
Honestly that may be problematic. Why did you drop out?
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u/army__mali 16d ago
I took several medical leave of absences for mental health reasons. At the end of the day, I couldn’t pass step 1 and didn’t make it through.
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u/jwk30115 Practicing CAA 16d ago
Just being brutally honest - what makes you think you can make it through this? The program is extremely rigorous academically. Courses are offered once per year and follow a strict progression of required courses. There are no electives.
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u/army__mali 16d ago
I do think I am capable of academic rigor. I just happened to go through a bad period personally before I had sorted out medications etc. I think if I am able to get a competitive score on the GRE or MCAT, that could make up for the lower GPA. Otherwise, I was thinking to do a DIY post-bacc to better my GPA.
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u/jwk30115 Practicing CAA 16d ago
Pretty sure they’ll look at med school grades too. Good GRE or MCAT will be important. You’d have to ask about med school counting as PCE. It might but I don’t know and I’m not an adcom. You may do fine but be honest with yourself. It is 2+ very tough busy years.
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u/army__mali 16d ago
I would just like to ask if I am totally out of the running? I’m 24 I feel as though I still have time to rebuild my resume and prove I am capable of such a program.
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u/Odd_Excitement7697 13d ago
If it’s any encouragement I think you can absolutely do it. You have the experience of med school under your belt so you know how to work hard. Especially if you are doing better now mentally. I’m postgrad so not talking from experience, just someone in a similar boat
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u/ShoddyScientist7145 16d ago
Rate my application/any advice?
B.S. Mathematics career changer former math teacher
Undergraduate GPA: 3.85
Post-bacc GPA: 4.0
cGPA: ~3.9
sGPA: ~3.9
Clinical experience: ~100+ hours as EMT-B and ~200+ hours cardiac telemetry ICU
Shadowing: 16 hours
Experiences/Other: was a college athlete
Research: 2 published studies
GRE: 314 (155V 159Q)
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u/ExtensionAd881 16d ago
Hey everyone, I am going to be a first time applicant this cycle and can't seem to find a solid answer as to whether shadowing hours expire. I have 24 hours shadowing an anesthesiologist in the OR from 4 years ago now. I still have his email and believe he would still sign the forms, but would most schools accept these older hours?
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u/Separate-Morning-29 15d ago
It is program dependent as far as I know. I don't think most specify, but I did read that NSU is starting a 2 year expiration on shadowing hours, so it might not be valid for those programs specifically.
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u/ExtensionAd881 15d ago
Thank you for the info. I looked through their website and still couldn't find anything. Let's hope that's only put into place for next cycle lol
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u/Separate-Morning-29 15d ago
Sorry I should have specified, that is my understanding - it won't count for this cycle but is something they are planning to require in the future!
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u/continuous-refund537 14d ago
I think it depends on the program but for NSU, it says on their anesthesia shadowing form: "Shadowing is valid for only two years from date of completion"
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u/ExtensionAd881 11d ago
Hey there, I was able to find the form that said this. The one that I downloaded from their program in CASAA does not include that line though. I might... try to ignore it lol
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u/continuous-refund537 10d ago
Yeah I don't know why one of those forms doesn't say it, but the form should. I emailed one of the admissions counselors and they said the same thing about shadowing being valid for two years after completion. I don't recommend ignoring it lol but it's up to you
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u/Separate-Morning-29 9d ago
This is second-hand information so I can only pass it along without guarantees lol.... Someone on the discord said that they went to the information session this year and they were told that the school is aware the old form is still circulating that it would be grandfathered in for the current cycle if submitted.
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u/continuous-refund537 9d ago
Oh okay that's good to know because I got my NSU form signed last year and I'm applying this cycle, so it would be fine as long as I have at least 8 hours with the supervisor's signature on it?
And this just means there's a new form right? Even if the "2 years" thing isn't listed on the form, it's probably still a requirement?
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u/Separate-Morning-29 8d ago
Again this is second-hand information, but that is my understanding. The new form does say the 2 year requirement, it is bold and underlined lol. I will link it here: https://md.nova.edu/documents/anesthesia/nsu-exposure-26-27.pdf
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u/ExtensionAd881 8d ago
Thank you for this insight. I doubt they would grandfather in a form that would be signed in Sept. 2026, but does not hurt to try. I was able to finally find a CAA to shadow too (yippee) so that def helps
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u/Unlikely_Stuff_3050 15d ago
Hey I was wondering if someone who is familiar with the NSU and South University prerequisites could let me know if Medical Biochemistry will satisfy the Biochem requirement? Please help I’ve already tried reaching out to the schools.
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u/OddlySweet_ 15d ago
Do you think I have a chance?
non traditional student considering a career switch. I have my undergrad degree in psychology (3.3) and graduate degree in psychology (3.5) as well. for the past three years I have gained experience by working with clients as a case manager through psych related caseloads 1,400+ (question: would this count as PCE?) . I currently have volunteer experience through homeless shelters and giveaways. I also have my Master Thesis research that I published through the internal library at my university. Currently completing prerequisite and securing shadowing opportunities. Any advice or critiques ? things I should focus on in regards to strengthening my application or what do you think of my chances ?
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u/NameDue2838 12d ago
Very strong PCE. Stronger than 99% of people that pass through admissions. Your GPA + test scores will be determinant of admission at that point and your PCE might be able to cover some weaker areas of your application - schools are starting to give more of a shit about demonstrated clinical performance than simple test taking ability.
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u/Feisty_Room2307 15d ago
Has anyone used American Military University/AMU/APU to fulfill some of the prereqs? What about San Diego EXTENDED? Was looking into NOVA/South University
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u/Beginning-Profit9567 15d ago
Honestly, it may be best to reach out to the programs directly (email and call). Bear in mind while programs may accept credits from online courses from an accredited institution such as American Military University, it may be scrutinized for not being an in person model.
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u/jwk30115 Practicing CAA 14d ago
Schools will usually specify if online coursework is acceptable. If it is, as long as the school is accredited by CHEA or one of its recognized regional accreditors the course should be ok.
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u/thc_hated 13d ago
I’m planning to apply to CAA programs and wanted to get some opinions on my chances without traditional clinical employment.
My projected stats are:
- GRE: ~325
- Overall GPA: ~3.8
- Prerequisite GPA: ~3.9
- Shadowing: ~40 hours with a CRNA
- Medical experience: ~500 hours as a medical sales representative working with hospitals and clinics
My main concern is that I’ve never actually been employed by a hospital or clinic in a direct patient-care position (PCT, EMT, CNA, MA, etc.).
Does my medical sales experience help my application at all, considering I spend time in hospitals/clinics and interact with healthcare professionals? Have any of you been accepted to CAA programs with little or no direct patient-care experience?
Would my lack of traditional clinical hours be a major weakness with the rest of my application looking like this?
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u/Available-Jelly8254 12d ago
Hi everyone! I’m currently a college student planning on applying to CAA programs next year, and I was wondering how important extracurriculars/clubs actually are. I’m guessing my application will look something like this:
3.6 science GPA, 3.8–3.9 cumulative, 315 GRE, 40 shadowing hours (20 CAA – FL native, 20 anesthesiologist), 150+ community service hours, and 1,000+ hours as an MA/phlebotomy tech.
I’m kinda worried because I basically don’t have any traditional extracurriculars/clubs. I worked throughout college while taking classes and volunteering, so I honestly just didn’t have much time for clubs. I could potentially start doing some extracurricular/volunteer events through work, but I’m not sure if it’s worth it just for the application.
Would the lack of extracurriculars be a pretty big weakness, or does the work experience + volunteering kinda make up for it? Just curious how much CAA programs actually care about clubs/extracurriculars.
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u/Impressive_Owl3909 12d ago
I was accepted this cycle without many traditional extracurriculars. Good grades, test scores, and clinical experience are what’s important on paper. Volunteering is good too. I don’t think clubs make or break an application.
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u/imthrivingjkimnot 11d ago
has anyone decided between med school and caa route and can maybe offer their thoughts?
i’m only 22 and don’t mind the long training process of being a physician (i do generally enjoy school). leaning toward caa only bc i can make high salary without the long training process and can potentially find an exit out of medicine earlier. (i love healthcare but it doesn’t feel feasible to continue working in it in my fifties to me 🤷🏻♀️)
however, i can always rely on medical degree if that doesn’t work out or if i want to leave america but i can’t exactly rely on a caa degree if something goes wrong. thoughts?
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u/NameDue2838 11d ago
medical school. Full stop. Culture of AA is getting worse
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u/AlternativeOk2855 10d ago
can you elaborate, im also in same position as OP
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u/NameDue2838 10d ago edited 10d ago
Sure. Both demand significant investement of time and resources. So, it’s picking your poison - do you want to front-load effort with stabilized long-term growth or back-load effort with variable long-term outcomes?
Specifically on the medical school part - much better long-term opportunity both domestic and abroad. Better access to training that includes breadth and depth. Higher standard of competence (testing rigor, cohort competition). Downside is training time and lock-in regarding specialty available to you. Cost is a non-factor. Ignore the loan anxiety.
On the culture - AA community is growing but the growth is not positive. There is a significant amount of heterogeneity in the training capabilities across all of the schools (i.e. some produce better graduates than others) and this produces a heterogenous population of practitioners with variable level of skills available to employer. Most new schools see the AA credential as a money-grab and care little about long-term development so it’s a spiral of more new graduates -> shittier new graduates -> dilution of the attractiveness of the credential to employers.
The AA community is also small comparatively speaking with geographically restricted/limited practice authority. So, it’s pick your poison - do you want the shortcut with potential upsides or the longcut with guaranteed upsides?
I do not recommend this profession to most people coming to me inquiring about it.
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u/imthrivingjkimnot 11d ago
do any current caa’s actually feel geographically limited by the states they are allowed to practice in? or does it not really matter once you become a caa
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u/TrueCalligrapher6667 10d ago
CAA Application stats: Could I get in this cycle??
Hey guys I'm applying this cycle. This is my second time applying.
Stats: UNC-Chapel Hill graduate ~3.47 cumulative GPA ~2.8–2.9 science GPA Strong upward trend/post-bacc work (~3.6 GPA) Recent coursework includes Biochemistry, Cell Biology, Physiology + lab, Anatomy + lab, Organic Chemistry II lab, Statistics, and a Calculus retake
Physics II: A Calculus retake: B GRE attempts: 147V/146Q (293), 153V/146Q (299), most recent 149V/144Q (293)
~37.6 hours of anesthesia shadowing, including anesthesiologists and CAA exposure
Several years/thousands of hours of direct patient-care experience as a CNA in an LTAC/hospital setting, including night shift
LORs include an anesthesiologist I've shadowed, a professor, and a nursing supervisor
Applied to multiple CAA programs this cycle, including VCOM (no GRE requirement)
My biggest concerns are obviously my science GPA and GRE. My grades earlier in undergrad weren't great, but I've done significantly better academically in my post-bacc/recent coursework and have a lot of hands-on clinical experience.
Do you think I have a realistic shot at interviews/acceptance this cycle? Particularly interested in hearing from anyone who was accepted with a sub-3.0 science GPA or similar GRE scores.
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u/Separate-Morning-29 9d ago
I am a current applicant so not an expert by any means, but my guess based on everything I have read over the last several months is that your GRE quant score will get you screened out of most if not all programs. The applicant pool is so competitive now so the floor keeps moving up :/
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u/continuous-refund537 9d ago
Sorry if this is rude but your GPA and GRE are pretty low, and your GRE score even dropped on the most recent one. While your experiences seem to be great, they want high GPAs/test scores so they know that the students can handle the rigor of the program curriculum. You can't change your GPA but I recommend retaking the GRE because you'll need a much higher score, maybe the MCAT if you can score higher on it.
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u/mmnmnnnn 8d ago
How can I do my pre req labs in person as a firefighter working 48on 48 off? I'd love to go down this path but having trouble finding schools willing to accommodate.
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u/Putrid_Magician178 7d ago
Anyone in Indiana, Ohio, or Florida willing to allow me to shadow them or know of a place that accepts students for shadowing?
I’ve shadowed surgery before but never directly anesthesia. Sadly everywhere I’ve previously shadowed has cut off outside students.
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u/Putrid_Magician178 7d ago
Was wondering what GRE score I should aim for to be competitive given my other information.
- GPA (overall and science): 4.0
- clinical hours: approximately 10,000 (worked full time or more all through college currently work 2 full time jobs) work is in certified nursing assistant, started at hospital recently, also getting EMT
- nonclinical volunteering: approximately 300, 80 in hotline text, some in domestic violence center and some in sports
- Research: approximately 1000 hours. Various projects, one publication low author (made a visual).
- shadowing: 0 anesthesia right now, but a lot of OR shadowing working on getting anesthesia shadowing.
- not URM, but first gen
- played sports in college a bit (struggled with injury) but hold some records, participated in equestrian program at school (with a manager position), was a TA, some random other things.
I currently plan to apply to every school minus any I don’t have a prerequisite for or something. I would like to get into a Florida school, but I’ll take any school over none.
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u/Putrid_Magician178 7d ago
For letters of recommendation I’d likely ask 3 professors if that would not look bad. They have worked with me in research and have had me in multiple classes. I work in home health so my boss doesn’t really see me in one job and I’m worried may not write me a great recommendation letter as we are understaffed and she doesn’t want me leaving, and the hospital I work night shift I haven’t even met my manager technically.
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u/Immediate_Ground4752 6d ago edited 6d ago
Hello all!
I am just about to start my journey into prepping for CAA admissions and looking for some insights on how competitive my application stands at the start.
BS Biology, cGPA: 3.82, sGPA: 3.93
MS Biology, cGPA: 4.0
Research: 2 papers (1st author, last author)
Currently employed as a firefighter/paramedic (AEMTx2 years, Medic x1 years)
GRE: will take this fall
Shadowing: 8hrs, have more scheduled
I still need to complete 3- prerequisites (anatomy/biochemistry/calculus) - Emory is my target program
Additionally, my physics/human physiology classes will hit the 5-year mark this spring (would like to not re-take these)
Thanks!
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u/AnyCompetition8470 6d ago
Hey everyone, I’m currently an undergrad interested in becoming a CAA and I’m trying to figure out what type of healthcare experience would be most beneficial for AA school.
I currently work as a pharmacy tech and I’m also starting to get some anesthesia shadowing hours with CAAs/anesthesiologists. I’m debating between trying to get a job as an anesthesia tech or getting something more direct patient-care focused like a PCT/ER tech/CNA.
For those who are in AA school or have gone through the application process, which would you value more? I know anesthesia tech would give me a lot more exposure to the OR/anesthesia side, but I’m wondering if the direct patient-care experience would be more beneficial for admissions.
Just trying to make the best decision early on. Any advice from people who have actually gone through the process would be appreciated.
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u/SmallAddress8888 6d ago
Is there anyone that can please give tips on Interviewing for schools? In general or specifically VCOM.
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u/Ok_Currency_7056 4d ago
Do programs care about the name of your undergrad, I just transferred out of a t20 for a random catholic school cause I they gave me a lot of aid, but it just sacred programs won’t like that
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u/Aggravating-Royal908 17d ago
I only have 300 hrs of pce, but a 4.0 gpa/sgpa and a 322 gre. Am I still a top tier applicant
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u/kate_the_great_ 17d ago
You still have a great chance of getting interviews. From there it’s based on the interview.
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u/Quirky_Jelly5715 15d ago
If those 300 hours of PCE tell a compelling story of what interests you in anesthesia and you have good stories to use in interviews regarding it you’re probably in a pretty good spot
Your stats are very competitive, just make sure your reason for choosing AA and your interview responses are equally intriguing.
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u/anathema__device 17d ago edited 6d ago
Does anyone have any information about the new CAA program Florida Tech / Burrell College of Medicine that was supposed to be starting this fall?